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[Loke13]

Which is really poorly written considering their alliance held together for what, 1.75 episodes total?

Why did they even bother?

The season just started how about we actually give the writers some time to finish telling there story.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Which is really poorly written considering their alliance held together for what, 1.75 episodes total?

Why did they even bother?

Only 11 episodes left.

However, I think it's fair to say that Danny is going to be forced to use her dragons to basically fuck everything up in order to win.

Queen of the ashes and all that.

 

[Harrison Bergeron]

Cool wrinkle removing gender from the Person Who Was Promised prophecy, but I did laugh at Dany immediately talking it as confirmation it was talking about her.

I feel like the writers have gotten a bit too overt this season with trying to let everyone know they're cool with women too.

The scene you mentioned, Lady Mormont and Jon Snow making sure everyone knows the girls and women must be trained to fight as well, woman stabbing dude in dick, Yara flying around like Wonder Woman.

There are plenty of strong female characters in non-traditional roles/powerful roles in the show already. They could be more subtle with the contemporary gender politics is all I'm saying.

 

[The Artisan]

I think that is too obvious and they are setting up some plot development that shows that Jon isn't like his "father" and post revival Jon is much more like a Targaryen. I think the confrontation with Littlefinger was to show how he has changed and was foreshadowing some of the new darkness in him. In that case this Sansa stuff is a bit of a red herring.

Either that and/or the twist will be that Sansa really is much more like Cersei than Littlefinger calculated and has him killed.

Jon putting Carcetti in a chokehold is literally the same as what Ned was capable of, though.

 

[Cabbagehead]

Nah, I'm sure Cersei will forget to go to Michigan and Wisconsin and fuck this all up.

Lets all remember Cersei prophecy. She's fucked.

 

[serenewarfare]

I think it's more about pushing Dany to a place where she almost has to make that decision, and seeing if she actually makes it or not.

 

[Wafflecakes]

It'll likely be a big motivator for Dany to change her mind and take on Olenna's advice to use the dragons on King's Landing since she won't have the allies anymore.

Could have saved us a few episodes and skipped straight to that.

 

[RustyNails]

Why are people blaming Theon? Yara was already dead. If he tried to rescue her Euron would have killed both of them. Theon knows he's no match for Euron.

 

[VeeP]

It'll likely be a big motivator for Dany to change her mind and take on Olenna's advice to use the dragons on King's Landing since she won't have the allies anymore.

Dany take's Olenna's revenge driven advice and invades Kings Landing with 3 dragons, manages to take the throne but the dragon's die and White Walkers invade. Sounds about right.

 

[Barzul]

Euron has to be dead right? The sand snakes were notorious for poisoning their blades and they definitely cut him a few times.

He might've got that Lord of Light treatment.

 

[Zolo]

I think it's more about pushing Dany to a place where she almost has to make that decision, and seeing if she actually makes it or not.

Yeah. One way or another, I expect either Cersei or Daenerys to finish what the Mad King wanted to do.

Why are people blaming Theon? Yara was already dead. If he tried to rescue her Euron would have killed both of them. Theon knows he's no match for Euron.

He did it more out of fear, but yeah. It was the smart thing to do too.

 

[serenewarfare]

Could have saved us a few episodes and skipped straight to that.

Or they could tell the story that she tried it one way and failed as opposed to immediately making her go the violence route. Which is what they are doing.

 

[Oddduck]

I'm not sure what Theon could have realistically done in that situation to save her.

 

[Neece]

Euron has to be dead right? The sand snakes were notorious for poisoning their blades and they definitely cut him a few times.

Feels like they would only poison their weapons before a known fight. I don't think they'd just be walking around normally with poison dripping off their weapons.

 

[Speevy]

Why are people blaming Theon? Yara was already dead. If he tried to rescue her Euron would have killed both of them. Theon knows he's no match for Euron.

We're not blaming Theon so much as we're blaming Dave and Dan for not seeing that Theon's entire character for 4 seasons has been based around him being tortured, horrified, and humiliated.

Alfie Allen is an excellent actor and he needs to have a resolution to his character arc.

 

[HvySky]

Could have saved us a few episodes and skipped straight to that.

Might as well skip everything and jump to the White Walkers killing everybody. Why waste time with all this storytelling nonsense in between. That'll save us like 10 episodes!

 

[ComputerBlue]

Only 11 episodes left.

However, I think it's fair to say that Danny is going to be forced to use her dragons to basically fuck everything up in order to win.

Queen of the ashes and all that.

I wonder when, or if we're going to see her vision from the house of the undying come true.

 

[serenewarfare]

We're not blaming Theon so much as we're blaming Dave and Dan for not seeing that Theon's entire character for 4 seasons has been based around him being tortured, horrified, and humiliated.

Alfie Allen is an excellent actor and he needs to have a resolution to his character arc.

But his arc isn't finished yet. It's not like the show has one more episode or something. That act was logical. There was nothing he could have done in that scenario. He'll have his moment.

 

[Devilinthiscity]

Everything about Euron almost instantly obtaining a massive fleet rubs me the wrong way, along with knowing where the other fleet was and who exactly was onboard.

Yeah, same here. Didn't he lose almost all of the fleet last season and had to build new ships? That was one of the main reasons why they couldn't follow Theon and Yara right? I guess with two seasons left they aren't really worrying about that stuff.

 

[televator]

Wow, wow, WOW! What a great episode. Maisie Williams looking really good too. I was afraid she didn't have the stature to be adult Arya, but her expressions are selling it.

, Well Littlefinger probably had flashbacks? In front of Ned's statue nonetheless

Ned Stark chocking him beyond the grave. lol At this rate, even if he does win the iron throne, there'd still somehow be a Stark chocking the shit out of him.

 

[HvySky]

We're not blaming Theon so much as we're blaming Dave and Dan for not seeing that Theon's entire character for 4 seasons has been based around him being tortured, horrified, and humiliated.

Alfie Allen is an excellent actor and he needs to have a resolution to his character arc.

I believe we'll still see that resolution and Theon will redeem himself. Him taking Euron's bait and immediately dying (possibly taking his sister with him) wouldn't be a great way to cap off his story.

 

[FiggyCal]

Btw. I don't think that was Arya's direwolf. It makes the scene a little weird, but that direwolf we saw was way huge. Like bigger than Ghost when we last saw him and also Bran's direwolf as well last we saw him.

 

[serenewarfare]

I know we're close to the end, but we're not at it yet. We still have at least 11 hours of show left. Let's not assume that any story or character arc is done or will be left open.

 

[The Artisan]

If Jon bends the knee to Dany I'm done

If Jon bend the knee to Danny, Sansa has perfect reason to betray him and claim the north.

why is it such a big deal if Jon bends the knee?

 

[Goodstyle]

You know what's hilarious about Cersei trying to scaremonger people into joining her side? All the people saying it's totally unrealistic for people to join her knowing how hypocritical she is.

"She just blew up a chunk of the city! Everything Cersei is saying about her opponent can be just as applied to Cersei herself, but worse! No way people will fall for that just because she used basic scaremonger tactics about people from foreign lands!"

Intentionally or not, this really works in relation to not just this recent US election, but the power of nativism throughout history. Cersei may have done bad things recently, but at least she's no foreigner. Dany's bringing drugs, she's bringing crime, her rapists, and some I assume are good people...

 

[Einchy]

Btw. I don't think that was Arya's direwolf. It makes the scene a little weird, but that direwolf we saw was way huge. Like bigger than Ghost when we last saw him and also Bran's direwolf as well last we saw him.

D&D confirmed it was her in the behind the scenes videos they do. The "that's not you" line was actually a reference to season 1 and Arya says, "that's not me" about becoming a lady in some castle for her husband. Nymeria isn't that Direwolf Arya wanted her to be Nymeria, she has moved on.

 

[serenewarfare]

why is it such a big deal if Jon bends the knee?

Because to a majority of the population of Westeros, Targaryen = Bad.

I don't think it would be a bad narrative move, because it 100% makes sense from Jon's perspective, but none of his people would be happy with it.

 

[FiggyCal]

D&D confirmed it was her in the behind the scenes videos they do. The "that's not you" line was actually a reference to season 1 and Arya says, "that's not me" about becoming a lady in some castle for her husband. Nymeria isn't that Direwolf Arya wanted her to be Nymeria, she has moved on.

Ugh. I'm having a bad week with Game of Thrones storylines.

 

[Einchy]

why is it such a big deal if Jon bends the knee?

Because he would no longer be the King in the North. The Northerns don't want to be beholden to King's Landing anymore.

 

[Neece]

D&D confirmed it was her in the behind the scenes videos they do. The "that's not you" line was actually a reference to season 1 and Arya says, "that's not me" about becoming a lady in some castle for her husband. Nymeria isn't that Direwolf Arya wanted her to be Nymeria, she has moved on.

Yeah, and Nymeria being so large is probably because she's untamed and living in the wild, unlike the other Stark direwolves.

 

[Disgraced]

why is it such a big deal if Jon bends the knee?

I think it's because the North and South of Westeros are like the West and East Coast of hip hop.

 

[molnizzle]

Who is the worthless fuck who directed that shaky cam nonsense?

Ugh.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Because to a majority of the population of Westeros, Targaryen = Bad.

I don't think it would be a bad narrative move, because it 100% makes sense from Jon's perspective, but none of his people would be happy with it.

Will they line up and stab him in front of cross that says Traitor once Bran tells them he's a Targ himself? lol

 

[RustyNails]

We're not blaming Theon so much as we're blaming Dave and Dan for not seeing that Theon's entire character for 4 seasons has been based around him being tortured, horrified, and humiliated.

Alfie Allen is an excellent actor and he needs to have a resolution to his character arc.

I think there's more to him than that. The resolution you speak of needs to come about with the Starks, because it is they whom he betrayed. Sansa already forgiven him, but I still feel like he needs to reunite with Bran, Arya and Jon. Him moping around because Ramsay chopped his willy is secondary arc.

 

[DoomGyver]

Jon won't bend the knee, he might wed his cousin though.

 

[molnizzle]

Because to a majority of the population of Westeros, Targaryen = Bad.

I don't think it would be a bad narrative move, because it 100% makes sense from Jon's perspective, but none of his people would be happy with it.

Never stopped him before...

 

[HvySky]

Because to a majority of the population of Westeros, Targaryen = Bad.

I don't think it would be a bad narrative move, because it 100% makes sense from Jon's perspective, but none of his people would be happy with it.

The northern houses may not like the name Targaryen, but they have to realize in order to prepare for the Long Night and the Night King's arrival they'll need every capable fighter they can muster and having the Mother of Dragons on your side would make a hell of a difference. Jon just has to convey that and do it quickly.

 

[DangerMouse]

Theon's gonna end up on the iron throne due to a fucking comedy of errors, isn't he?

LOL

 

[serenewarfare]

Will they line up and stab him in front of cross that says Traitor once Bran tells them he's a Targ himself? lol

I wouldn't be surprised if they rebel on him, honestly. Or at least a decent amount of them. Or they just oust him and Sansa takes over.

I think Arya going back to Winterfell is so she can show up after Littlefinger is in Sansa's head and things are going the wrong direction. She'll try to be the voice of reason. Hell, she may even try to kill Littlefinger.

 

[effzee]

I don't see Tarly fighting with the Lannisters. I see him ultimately siding with the Tyrells

 

[zethren]

Jon won't bend the knee, he might wed his cousin though.

I can see this happening.

 

[Zolo]

Jon won't bend the knee, he might wed his cousin though.

Aunt. Unless you're talking about Sansa.

 

[Disgraced]

Who is the worthless fuck who directed that shaky cam nonsense?

Ugh.

I really wouldn't blame the director for that battle. It was bad because the budget probably is allocated the bigger shit that's sure to happen in later episodes.

The demand was that the battle be this big, and the budget be this low.

 

[B-Dubs]

Because to a majority of the population of Westeros, Targaryen = Bad.

I don't think it would be a bad narrative move, because it 100% makes sense from Jon's perspective, but none of his people would be happy with it.

Wouldn't be the first time he did something that wound up getting him stabbed.

 

[Einchy]

Jon won't bend the knee, he might wed his cousin though.

Yeah, she knows she has to join houses one day, joining up with the Starks gives her control of the North. It's a perfect strategic marriage.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

I was rooting for Euron. Is that wrong? Fuck Dorne.

 

[HvySky]

I wouldn't be surprised if they rebel on him, honestly. Or at least a decent amount of them. Or they just oust him and Sansa takes over.

I think Arya going back to Winterfell is so she can show up after Littlefinger is in Sansa's head and things are going the wrong direction. She'll try to be the voice of reason. Hell, she may even try to kill Littlefinger.

Arya being a vessel of catharsis for the audience would be kind of great. First Walder Frey, then Peter Baelish? Then she just needs to find some bullshit way to teleport to King's Landing and slit Cersei's throat.

 

[Barzul]

How the fuck does Jon convince Dany of the realities of the White Walkers without video lol? It'll be interesting to see that. I think that is probably why Melisandre showed up there.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

I guess Dany's fleet being f'd up gives Jon more negotiation power?

 

[Disgraced]

They're gonna be bendin' knees both if ya know what I'm sayin'!