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[Markio128]

Ah yes, the magical "entitled" definition that gets abused when one has no arguments.

By all means, feel free to keep rejoicing about having to give more money to a corporation for small updates to a product you already paid for.



Besides the fact that the lip sync is done automatically nowadays, as there are tools for that (the difference is simply that on PS5 cutscenes run in real-time, so that's a possibility), Microsoft offers a large amount of free content to Microsoft Flight Simulator users every two months.

In comparison, this is... quite unimpressive.

The stuff included in the "PS5 upgrade" pretty much qualifies as stuff that almost every other developer/publisher would offer as a free update.

I paid for the PS4 version without DLC, so not sure what point you are trying to make here. And nobody else has the right to suggest what I should spend my own money on. That's if you can hear me on that high horse of yours.

 

[Abriael_GN]

And nobody else has the right to suggest what I should spend my own money on. That's if you can hear me on that high horse of yours.

Is there any part of "By all means, feel free to" that you do not understand?

 

[Calverz]

Looks like my decision to sell my ps4 pro in early 2019 paid off. Now i get to play these exclusives on superior hardware at higher frame rates.

 

[LordCBH]

Sony mastering Smart Delivery of £££

Like FF7R this is a joke, why not just sell the expansion and give a free PS5 upgrade.

Because people are willing to pay. That's the entire reason.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

20 for the ps4 to ps5 seems fair
For dlc and dual sense support

30 is just dirty..
Go f yourself

base game already runs 60 on ps5
Not going to pay 30 for an island and dualsense support

wait are they pretending the game now runs 4k 60 on ps5?

THE FUCK? xd

Paying for the island is fair, paying for an upgrade a controller support in 2021 is stupid. But they'll keep doing it cause the fan base will support and defend anything. These upgrades should be free and the DLC should be its own announcement. Directors cut is just marketing for "we selling you the same thing again at full price".

 

[jonnyp]

30 bucks to get an expansion? That expansion has to be very beefy then.

 

[Zones]

Really dumb of Sony for pricing it lower on PS4.

They should have make it $30 for everyone and no one would complain... that's just the sad reality of human psyche.

 

[Celcius]

I wish the ps5 upgrade was free and they charged for the expansion. I might pass on this.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Fuck off! PS4 version already running in BC 1800p 60 on PS5. I could not care less about 3D Audio, Dual Sense support and fast load times. I'll upgrade to PS4 DC and call it a day.

 

[Javthusiast]

Glad I held out. Now I will get a better and improved game and jp lip sync in a game set in japan, which should have been there from the start. Better late than never though.

 

[Markio128]

Is there any part of "By all means, feel free to" that you do not understand?

Ah right. So if I said "By all means, feel free to fuck off", how do you think that would come across?

 

[Abriael_GN]

Ah right. So if I said "By all means, feel free to fuck off", how do you think that would come across?

Silly, but you're not ordering me to, so I guess it's fine.

The point is that you're entirely free to spend your money however you want.

Just as I'm free to consider this a bad practice and supporting it a bad idea.

Mind you, I'll quite possibly end up caving as well because GoT is one of my favorite games of the past generation, but if I do, at least I know I'm a sucker.

 

[cireza]

You can thank MS and BC for this thing to not be a 60$ port.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

 

[ZywyPL]

Bobby Kotick is proud of that pricing scheme. Sony is really starting to push the envelope, aren't they?

 

[HawarMiran]

it is good to have a friend that buys every game in existence. Makes freeloading very easy for me

 

[Markio128]

Silly, but you're not ordering me to, so I guess it's fine.

You weren't ordering me to pay $30 for the upgrade, however, you were suggesting that I was wrong in doing so.

Silly, but you're not ordering me to, so I guess it's fine.

The point is that you're entirely free to spend your money however you want.

Just as I'm free to consider this a bad practice and supporting it a bad idea.

Mind you, I'll quite possibly end up caving as well because GoT is one of my favorite games of the past generation, but if I do, at least I know I'm a sucker.

Nobody is a sucker for spending their own money on something they want and will enjoy.

 

[Abriael_GN]

You weren't ordering me to pay $30 for the upgrade, however, you were suggesting that I was wrong in doing so.

No. I was suggesting it's a bad idea and encouraging a bad practice. Right or wrong is way too absolute a concept.

Nobody is a sucker for spending their own money on something they want and will enjoy.

If they spend money on something they disapprove, they are. I disapprove of this, but I may end up caving anyway because I'm weak. If I do, I'll be a sucker. I've been in the past, so no surprise.

 

[BennyBlanco]

The ps5 patch is already 60 fps. I'm not paying for better controller rumble.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

upset?
I am amused

Well, whatever you want to call it, I guess.

 

[HawarMiran]

No, you were upset, remember?
And I'm asking you why.

get yourself a friend like me. And enjoy the game

 

[Markio128]

Why should I pay for extra trim for my car when I have already paid for the car? Said nobody ever.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

$30 upgrade for what will hopefully be a 15+ hour expansion sounds good to me.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Why should I pay for extra trim for my car when I have already paid for the car? Said nobody ever.

By that logic, every update should be paid. Luckily, most developers don't think that way.

 

[Papacheeks]

After how easy it was to upgrade FF7R on PS5 this is a huge let down. Sony is dropping the ball here. Let me upgrade to PS5 version for free and pay $19.99. Thats what Square did and I thought it was more than fine.

I'll wait for a sale.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

By that logic, every update should be paid. Luckily, most developers don't think that way.

Sucker Punch feel that way too hence why Legends exist

Now, please carry on with your entitled rant

 

[ManaByte]

$30 upgrade for what will hopefully be a 15+ hour expansion sounds good to me.

The main game was about 15 hours.

 

[Abriael_GN]

Sucker Punch feel that way too hence why Legends exist

Now, please carry on with your entitled rant

Sucker Punch?

You do understand that these decisions aren't taken by Sucker Punch, but by Sony?

Now, please, carry on defending the brand you have on your avatar.

 

[R6Rider]

The main game was about 15 hours.

Wrong. On average it was around 24 hours.

40+ if you wanted to do everything.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Sucker Punch feel that way too hence why Legends exist

Now, please carry on with your entitled rant

It's funny that the sad people here are your usual Xbox guys. The PS fans that loved the game are all excited and happy.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Sucker Punch?

You do understand that these decisions aren't taken by Sucker Punch, but by Sony?

Now, please, carry on defending the brand you have on your avatar.

Fucking weebs man

 

[Abriael_GN]

Fucking weebs man

Better than batting for a corporation.

 

[Mr.ODST]

After how easy it was to upgrade FF7R on PS5 this is a huge let down.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Better than batting for a corporation.

Your kind disgusts me

 

[Abriael_GN]

Your kind disgusts me

You mean the kind that doesn't automatically side with one corporation or the other due to pure fanboyism?

 

[Papacheeks]

Are you sure about that?

Yes, I own FF7R and bought the DLC. It was pretty seamless. Paying $30 for the DLC it better be like 15 hours or something like that.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You mean the kind that doesn't automatically side with one corporation or the other due to pure fanboyism?

 

[Raonak]

Very cool was looking to get back to this game.

Lol @ the haters. We got legends for free and it already has unlocked framerate for PS5. So stop acting like sony shot your dog or something.

 

[SlimySnake]

You bitched about them using all of their resources for this which will just delay their next game... now what's up.

Not sure how an expansion that took over a year wont delay their next game. They did use all their resources to make a new map, new story, new enemies, but I am not talking about the content when I say the bare minimum. I am talking about the PS5 specific features like haptic feedback, adaptive triggers and 4k 60 fps patches. Thats the bare minimum we expect from PS5 upgrades nowadays. There are no other graphics upgrades. We arent getting the lighting that was downgraded in the PS4 version. Compare the E3 2018 duel to the one we got in the final version. We arent getting extended foliage draw distance like we saw Sony Bend do for the PC version. We arent even getting next gen quality visuals like we are seeing with Forza Horizon. Though that was always going to be a long shot, but since they took a whole year to make it, I figured they would at least throw PS5 owners a bigger bone than just haptic feedback.

Now what they have done is spent an entire year making an expansion instead of immediately moving on to GoT2 like Cory did after shipping GoW. And GoW2 has still taken 4 years despite being a last gen game. How long will a next gen GoT2 will take 5 years? It's 2021 now. Are we looking at a 2026 title? Who asked for an expansion anyway? GoT was already like 50 hours long. Why do we need another island? Lets move on. Listen to Cory.

 

[Fbh]

Sorry but this is pretty shitty.

No free upgrade for a first party game sucks.
No fixed lip sync on Ps4 sucks too. Just offer it as an optional download if it's pre rendered.

 

[Danjin44]

I enjoyed GoT but not enough that I'm willing to pay extra to upgrade.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Didn't love GOT, didn't hate it, so it's no for now (perhaps down the road on sale).

More intrigued to hear about Death Stranding DLC, albeit it's almost certainly going to be priced the same.

 

[Alebrije]

Great improvements..nice that waited an can play the DC version on PS5
7O us for a next gen update + DLC is fine...

 

[Putonahappyface]

I deleted my save after I platinumed the game FUCK. I don't think I have it in me to go through all of that again.

 

[Miles708]

I'm sorry if this has already ben answered in the thread, but did they say ifthe DLC is in the disc (like with Horizon)?

 

[Manwithoutfear]

i'm really excited about this, but damn they were vague with details. how much content is this new island etc....

 

[xiskza]

 

[fermcr]

Playstation gamers are rich. They don't mind purchasing the same game over and over again. I'll gladly accept a free extra copy if someone is kind enough..

 

[Metnut]

About $10 too much IMO. What Square did with FF7Remake PS4 -> PS5 and DLC seemed fair and should be the standard.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

I deleted my save after I platinumed the game FUCK. I don't think I have it in me to go through all of that again.

It's not on cloud storage?