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[sendit]

Game won't be native 4k anyway so don't expect pristine image quality.

Native 4K is pointless.

 

[SlimySnake]

Native 30fps modes? I forgot that 30fps modes even exist, lol. But yeah, you are righ.

Thats literally how i have played all Sony games this gen. Well, aside from demon Souls which looked awful in the 30 fps mode for some reason.

All native 4k with some very minor DRS to ensure the game remains a locked 30 fps.

Part of the reason why the game might look underwhelming is because they are targeting these native 4k resolutions in 30 fps modes while everyone else is settling for 1440p in their quality mode and putting that extra GPU horsepower towards better lighting, and other graphics features like nanite and ray tracing.

 

[SlimySnake]

Oh how the tables have turned. Imagine if you told me 6 months ago that AC Shadows would have been the game with the more attractive female protagonist, better graphics, and innovative open-world features such as the season system.

I trust SP so I'm sure this game will be good, but man the marketing team is really making it look boring as fuck and it is hilarious how similar the plot is to Shadows. The game doesn't look much better graphically than GoT and I don't know what the hook is. Guns? Not very exciting compared to building on the stealth and diegetic open-world features they set up in the first game. Funnily enough if they had just done GoT2 they would seemingly be in a much better position.

Yep. Back in the day, the hook for these next gen only sequels used to be visuals and big bombastic setpieces that couldnt be done on last gen hardware. Now its just more of the same. I think Kojima knows how to market these games and Sony studios are stuck doing these 2 minute trailers that show nothing except for some out of context cutscenes about characters we know nothing about. Im sorry but this isnt god of war ragnorak or even HFW, you cant treat this marketing like its a sequel to a established game. The second trailer for Ghost was an awesome 8 minute gameplay demo. This second trailer for the sequel is literally a copy pasta of the first teaser.

And yeah, they shouldve called an audible as soon as they saw that AC shadows had the same plot. Keep it in the game, but market the trailer around some other hook.

 

[viveks86]

Game won't be native 4k anyway so don't expect pristine image quality.

But are you willing to admit that you were cherry picking? Just a few frames later and the same shot looks interesting enough to at least point to something meaningful.

Skin shading, subsurface scattering, dynamic lighting from the guys weapon in the background, which is also diffusing into the smoke, soft shadows, high res shadow maps. This looks a significant step up from the GoT. Just the ground looks way less flat. Most ground surfaces and even rocks in GoT were literally PS3 quality flat. At least point to what what in this shot looks last gen and we can agree or disagree.

A few seconds later and it's this shot, which also looks gorgeous. Bear in mind that these are just random gameplay shots they have cobbled together with no additional effects like depth of field.

Characters' skin tone is consistent with environment lighting. There is light variation throughout the scene. There is directional edge lighting on the enemies head consistent with the sun's position. The leaves and even the cloth between her legs is getting subsurface scattering. Nothing groundbreaking, but these are significant steps above the first game.

 

[mckmas8808]

Maybe you haven't played Last of Us 2? Horizon also gets an honourable mention for its general lesbianity. If The Lost Legacy would have gotten a sequel then I'm pretty certain that ND would have gone the lesbian route once again.

So two games equals all Sony 1st party games will have lesbians in them now?

 

[Durin]

Definitely seems like they know about GTA6's release, otherwise they should've announced this date at an event.

Will see how it turns out, they haven't shown enough gameplay for me to be that engaged, but the style still looks great. Might wait on the PC version though.

All it has to do to beat AC Shadows is not release in a buggy ass state where the AI breaks that was my Shadows experience on my friend's PS5.

 

[mckmas8808]

It's a bad trailer. They need to learn from kojima and do bigger 10 minute trailers with gameplay sequences that last more than a second.

The story and acting in this game will absolutely destroy Ac shadows even if the graphics and gameplay are weaker.

Has it occurred to you that will see a gameplay trailer at Sony's E3 showing this year?

 

[viveks86]

I don't know, I think the game had plenty of options with the perks and gear, specially the charms, also the sub-weapons. I loved making the enemies attack each other and also having them all vomiting all over the place. It didn't lack variety to me.

Hmmm. The only time I ever had to mess around with charms and gear was for duels and that too in Lethal difficulty. It was both my wife and I' s GOTY. Just critiquing it on what I think are weaknesses that they can improve on.

I feel like they are just doing away with some of the things that made GoT unique. There was just the one melee weapon that you upgrade throughout the whole game, but the combat was super tight as a result. I can't imagine they'll be able to replicate that with multiple different weapons.

Part of GoT's charm was its simplicity and sort of minimalistic approach to design. Yotei just feels like another AC game, they are trying to add more stuff to market all the new features but to me it's just putting me off from wanting to play this game more than anything.

Wouldn't go that far just yet. They could still make them shine if they all have unique reasons to use. But we probably won't know that till the game reviews are out.

 

[Kerotan]

you would not be able to acrmtivate EU key on US account.

How many account do you have on your console?

No gameplay trailer but here's the preorder link lol.
Anyway, it's not like they have something wow to show in the gameplay department.
Ghost of Tsushima 1.5. Easy skip.

Am I missing something. I can't pre order on PSN yet and there was indeed a trailer?

I'm excited and positive about this game, but somehow in the trailer it looks like a PS4 game. Not trying to be mean or anything.

I find this funny because people were saying the first one looked like a ps5 game now the sequel looks like the PS4.

To me this confirms GTA6 is a December release, like Cyberpunk, like the Avatar movies.

The true megatons drop in December right before Christmas.

GTA would more likely be mid November. Has anything big been announced for September yet? Mafia?

I'm still hoping VI is a 2026 game.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Well, he is absolutely right. You gotta kill those heterosexual men characters as soon as you can. It's not politically correct anymore.

 

[Killer8]

It's a bad trailer. They need to learn from kojima and do bigger 10 minute trailers with gameplay sequences that last more than a second.

The story and acting in this game will absolutely destroy Ac shadows even if the graphics and gameplay are weaker.

We'll see. Sucker Punch have the same lead writer but they've also brought on board a bunch of BioWare rejects responsible for Dragon Age Veilguard's writing. Nothing is guaranteed to be good here.

Also in terms of the acting, English was dogshit in Shadows but the Japanese dub was really good and the way to play it. Really elevated the game and turned Naoe from awkward to lovable waifu.

 

[Bojji]

But are you willing to admit that you were cherry picking? Just a few frames later and the same shot looks interesting enough to at least point to something meaningful.

Skin shading, subsurface scattering, dynamic lighting from the guys weapon in the background, which is also diffusing into the smoke, soft shadows, high res shadow maps. This looks a significant step up from the GoT. Just the ground looks way less flat. Most ground surfaces and even rocks in GoT were literally PS3 quality flat. At least point to what what in this shot looks last gen and we can agree or disagree.

A few seconds later and it's this shot, which also looks gorgeous. Bear in mind that these are just random gameplay shots they have cobbled together with no additional effects like depth of field.

Characters' skin tone is consistent with environment lighting. There is light variation throughout the scene. There is directional edge lighting on the enemies head consistent with the sun's position. The leaves and even the cloth between her legs is getting subsurface scattering. Nothing groundbreaking, but these are significant steps above the first game.

Motion blur affects taking shots from this trailer, that's why some elements are super blurry:

vs. first game

Of course Yotei looks better and there are more details but this is closer to GOW - GOWR jump then real next gen. And GOWR had to run on PS4.

Horizon was on of the biggest sequels graphics quality jumps and it was on PS4 as well...

 

[mckmas8808]

Well, he is absolutely right. You gotta kill those heterosexual men characters as soon as you can. It's not politically correct anymore.

Why do yall do this to yourselves?

 

[Trilobit]

So two games equals all Sony 1st party games will have lesbians in them now?

The odds are in favour of that. I don't really understand why they are so obsessed with them.

 

[Oblivion78]

The odds are in favour of that. I don't really understand why they are so obsessed with them.

Would you rather see two guys kissing instead?

 

[mckmas8808]

The odds are in favour of that. I don't really understand why they are so obsessed with them.

I think you are ignoring alot of Sony 1st party games then......

 

[Trilobit]

Would you rather see two guys kissing instead?

I think I'd be perfectly okay without any kissing scenes in my games, even if they'd be between heterosexual couples, the animations always look so off.

I think you are ignoring alot of Sony 1st party games then......

It wouldn't surprise me if they make all the drivers in the next Gran Turismo lesbians too.

 

[viveks86]

Motion blur affects taking shots from this trailer, that's why some elements are super blurry:

Of course Yotei looks better and there are more details but this is closer to GOW - GOWR jump then real next gen. And GOWR had to run on PS4.

Horizon was on of the biggest sequels graphics quality jumps and it was on PS4 as well...

Again, other than the grass, there are no technical features to show in your GoT shots. Rest is all just colors/art making up for the flat lighting and simple geometry. Remove the depth of field and the first shot wouldn't be remotely as impressive.

But yes, we can agree that FW was a significantly bigger jump between the 2 games. But we can't be expecting Sucker Punch to match GG on that front.

 

[Flabagast]

Trailer looks… lame and super underwhelming. Not sure the game will manage to find a strong audience

 

[miller152]

Hypothetically- if she turns out to be a lesbian, does that materially change if the gameplay is fun? If the story is good? Not really.

But - the socio-political stuff that seemingly gets stuffed into every game AA/AA, which a lot of Sony's first party are PROUD to be spearheading, feels forced and there to check a box. And it only goes in one direction with the message.

Do we have Sony Bend putting out a pro-life game?? Games that promote conservative values? Noooo. It ain't a thing.

Any kind of romance would feel out of place in this game. Did anybody think GoT was missing a romance? I don't think so, the game is just not about that. I think we only know Jin actually finds women desirable from like two lines when you sit in a hot spring.

So if Atsu liking women was conveyed in a similar way, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But does anybody believe they can hold back their "diverse and inclusive" boner and not spray it all over the game? Doubt.

 

[Embearded]

Come on man. 6 months on pc like first one and on xbox soon or later like first one.

Ps studios are fucked. 10 studios making aaa. 1 game per studio in 6 years.

1 AAA game per studio every 5-6 years is pretty much the current trend anyway.
Remind me, how frequent does the rest of the industry output AAA games?

 

[Tokio Blues]

Looks more like a DLC.

 

[viveks86]

It wouldn't surprise me if they make all the drivers in the next Gran Turismo lesbians too.

Why wait till the next one? Sophy is not a Lesbian (I think), but is probably Asexual, so that checkbox has already been ticked!

 

[WellSheet]

Any kind of romance would feel out of place in this game. Did anybody think GoT was missing a romance? I don't think so, the game is just not about that. I think we only know Jin actually finds women desirable from like two lines when you sit in a hot spring.

So if Atsu liking women was conveyed in a similar way, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But does anybody believe they can hold back their "diverse and inclusive" boner and not spray it all over the game? Doubt.

Agreed!

The actress playing Atsu is also…well…go look at her tweets/interviews….

 

[viveks86]

The actress playing Atsu is also…well…go look at her tweets/interviews….

Literally almost all hollywood/creative types are like this, either privately or openly. Imagine cancelling Tarantino for his political views... If you are not far left, you really should compartmentalize what they do on and off the set. Let their professional output speak for itself. If their actual output is not to your liking, then any judgment is fair.

 

[hussar16]

when are we gona move on from ps4 ,this just looks like last game from ps4 era in high res

 

[nial]

Ragnarok was announced during a PS Showcase...

Over a year before it was released, not too different from Yotei being announced on one of the best performing SoPs, but you do you...

This list is like Hal's pancakes in Malcolm in the Middle. The best games are about as good as last years, but my god there is a ton of dogshit in there. Midnight Murder Club is the definition of mid, yearly sports games are , and Convallaria and Lost Soul Aside aren't worth the crust on my underwear.

I would only consider Death Stranding 2, Marathon and Ghost of Yotei as viable games - broadly an equivalent year to 2024's Astro Bot, Helldivers II and Rise of the Ronin, then.

Those are the wonders of a diverse output, me thinks. MLB The Show 25 was pretty good from what I read, I'm personally interested in Lost Soul Aside, and I imagine Convallaria will do pretty decently in the Chinese/Asian market, especially with it being F2P.

 

[rofif]

I just finished GOT 30 minutes ago. wow what a story and combat. Loved it.
Some repetitive open world stuff but I didn't do all the side quest. Kinda stopped 100%ing everything middle of act 2.

even if yotei looks 99% the same graphically.. it doesn't matter. I don't need games to look any better than this.
But then - if it doesn't, then what took them 5 years lol. Anyway - I am sure it will look and be great

 

[rofif]

Game won't be native 4k anyway so don't expect pristine image quality.

Well.. I just finished ac shadows week ago and got this week. both on pro.
I believe ac shadows in balanced mode is like 1440p or less and got is native 4k.
Guess which one looks better and got better image quality? The not native 4k one...
Of course talking purely technically. I Prefer everything about got over ac shadows.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Over a year before it was released, not too different from Yotei being announced on one of the best performing SoPs, but you do you...

State of Plays are not showcases... I'm not alone in believing that.

It's reception here is much better than during the SoP.

Do you know why?

First they showed a lot more here, two it wasn't stained by the overall State of Play.

 

[rofif]

Btw. Since I don't want to excavate the ot, more thoughts on the game. W but randomly:
-ending choices are never good for the story and its impact. I like when the game have balls to not have multiple endings. Not a huge deal here but a minor issue I have. I still kinda cried but then checked other ending on yt and it was better…
-I did all ishikawa quests. It was interesting and ended fine. But I couldn't bare to finish masako and others. Should I?

Is the dlc interesting if I already have my fill with open world side of the game?

 

[rofif]

State of Plays are not showcases... I'm not alone in believing that.

It's reception here is much better than during the SoP.

Do you know why?

First they showed a lot more here, two it wasn't stained by the overall State of Play.

Agreed. State of plays are terrible. There was not a single good one imo. I am always at least slightly disappointed

 

[viveks86]

Btw. Since I don't want to excavate the ot, more thoughts on the game. W but randomly:
-ending choices are never good for the story and its impact. I like when the game have balls to not have multiple endings. Not a huge deal here but a minor issue I have. I still kinda cried but then checked other ending on yt and it was better…
-I did all ishikawa quests. It was interesting and ended fine. But I couldn't bare to finish masako and others. Should I?

Is the dlc interesting if I already have my fill with open world side of the game?

All supporting character side quests were interesting and worth the ride. I found the dlc better than the main game, so I would recommend it.

 

[EDMIX]

Day 1

I don't now where anyone is getting anything about GTAVI regarding this release date lol

No gameplay trailer but here's the preorder link lol.
Anyway, it's not like they have something wow to show in the gameplay department.
Ghost of Tsushima 1.5. Easy skip.

yea, that is a bit of a red flag, I'm still buying it, but I want to see at least a little, they still need to market those new features, gameplay etc

I don't like how low energy this all is. A new Ghost game is supposed to be a big deal, Tsushima was a huge hit for them and a very popular game overall.


"Here's a trailer, and the collector's edition, and a preorder date, and a release date. Whatever"

I agree, this needed a whole State Of Play, show some gameplay, drop the trailer with the bad guys, BOOM reveal release date, pre-order etc

I don't get whats going on here, I don't know why they did this and its really odd.

I don't get why TODAY it needed all of this, this might be from an existing IP, but this fucking story is NEW, the character is NEW, it should have been treated with that care.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why wait till the next one? Sophy is not a Lesbian (I think), but is probably Asexual, so that checkbox has already been ticked!

Sarah is definitely straight. Always gifting me expensive cars for my birthday.

Luca on the other hand, trying to butter me up baking me all them cakes.

 

[Gojiira]

Legit cant wait, looks fucking perfect just like GoT.

 

[adamsapple]

It wouldn't surprise me if they make all the drivers in the next Gran Turismo lesbians too.

Do they use the double ended exhaust pipe?

I'm sorry, that was terrible.

 

[viveks86]

Sarah is definitely straight. Always gifting me expensive cars for my birthday.

Straight girlboss, then! Damn… Yamauchi-san is woke-r than we thought!

 

[viveks86]

Haven't watched it yet, but he did a great job with the first trailer:

 

[ArtHands]

Come on man. 6 months on pc like first one and on xbox soon or later like first one.

Ps studios are fucked. 10 studios making aaa. 1 game per studio in 6 years.

There is a reason why they are releasing on other platforms now

 

[rkofan87]

the more i look at this game the more it looks like stand alone dlc for 70$.

 

[Arsic]

I never completed the original and I don't think I have it in me for another game like AC Shadows so soon after it. I had 30 hours of fun in AC and this doesn't show anything I haven't seen in this period piece or from a gameplay perspective that Shadows or Ghost 1 didn't cover already.

 

[SlimySnake]

this night time shot looks so last gen lol. though tbf, ac shadows looked really bad at night in some seasons.

i think this is a way bigger upgrade than ragnorak. ragnorak virtually looked identical to the first game. this is a spiderman 1 to spiderman 2 or horizon zd to horizon fw caliber leap. Significant but not generational. it could definitely look better than this.

 

[Topher]

Looks more like a DLC.

You could probably say that about most sequels

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think it's so weird to watch these presumably heterosexual male posters demanding FEWER lesbians in their video games.

Frankly, they could replace every protagonist with a lesbian and I would be perfectly fine with it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I think it's so weird to watch these presumably heterosexual male posters demanding FEWER lesbians in their video games.

Frankly, they could replace every protagonist with a lesbian and I would be perfectly fine with it.

Thats because guys want to watch lesbians in action, not play as one in a game or be one in real life.

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

Thats because guys want to watch lesbians in action, not play as one in a game or be one in real life.

Is that what 'guys want'?

Apparently, according to posters on Gaf, 'guys' also 'want' more man ass in their video games. I guess that's what 'guys want'. Some guys, anyway.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Is that what 'guys want'?

Apparently, according to posters on Gaf, 'guys' also 'want' more man ass in their video games. I guess that's what 'guys want'. Some guys, anyway.

If guys want women in games they want hot ones too. Not this. This is the lead actress in the game.

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

If guys want women in games they want hot ones too. Not this. This is the lead actress in the game.

That doesn't look like a screenshot from the game.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

That doesn't look like a screenshot from the game.

Doesnt matter. You got a fugly playing the game and a politically motivated one too.