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Halo 3 lighting: Best in the biz??
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Or go watch the videos and research. Game looks hot, you know it.urk said:
LiquidMetal14 said:
I come here for all my studies. Have you read the required texts yet?
Sure it looks good. Sims always bore the ever loving shit out of me though, so I find it really difficult to get excited about static buildings, be they in PGR or GT. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go adjust the camber on my Honda Civic.
dfyb said:
I think you may be answering questions I didn't ask. But if I must, the PGR4 environments looks easily as good as those you posted. No question. Cars are a different story. PD always does top notch work on the car models. Nothing to do at all with lighting or Halo 3 though.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Look at the lighting on and in the cars. That is what makes it look so photo real.urk said:
Its pretty nice in some areas, in others..not so much.
LiquidMetal14 said:
No, it's one of the things that contributes. They take great care modeling those cars to exacting standards.
But he was on about the environments with m0dus.
I think I'll bow out of the thread now. It's just going to be this tit-for-tat stuff and I'm going to hold onto my tit. You can have the tat.
Halo 3 rulez. Your favorite game sucks the Big One. Peace out. Much love. Audi 5000 (with spectacular lighting), G.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Only on GAF are arguments won and lost by the posting of 300 pixel wide animated GIFs.
Of games I've personally played ...
Heavenly Sword
Halo 3
Motorstorm
... are the top 3. Not sure what order I'd put them in.
I really can't think of anything else released that's up there other than maybe S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
On the horizon, the top games I've seen for lighting appear to be ...
Crysis
Kilzone 2
Uncharted
... (no particular order) ... with MGS4 and GTV coming in a bit below the above (mostly based on not having seen enough).
Heavenly Sword
Halo 3
Motorstorm
... are the top 3. Not sure what order I'd put them in.
I really can't think of anything else released that's up there other than maybe S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
On the horizon, the top games I've seen for lighting appear to be ...
Crysis
Kilzone 2
Uncharted
... (no particular order) ... with MGS4 and GTV coming in a bit below the above (mostly based on not having seen enough).
Synless
Member
I leave this thread for a few hours to go and do homework, and come back to pgr4 and gt5 pics.........I thought we finished this fight when DFYB, gattsu25, tjhooker and myself undoubtly provided enough visual and contextual evidence to prove halo 3's lighting isn't the greatest of all time.
The OP talks about lighting and tone mapping only, so I assumed he wasnt comparing shadows and image quality.
IMO Halo 3 has the nicest HDR lighting of any released or upcoming game that isn't Crysis or Little Big Planet, and KZ2 doesnt use HDR. I'd put it just ahead of HS because of the way character models never look incongruous to the environment lighting as they do in most games. It's PRT or something right?
IMO Halo 3 has the nicest HDR lighting of any released or upcoming game that isn't Crysis or Little Big Planet, and KZ2 doesnt use HDR. I'd put it just ahead of HS because of the way character models never look incongruous to the environment lighting as they do in most games. It's PRT or something right?
dfyb said:
i wouldnt say that gt5s environments look any better than the ones of pgr4 or comparable.
gt5 still uses alot of 2d stuff and image backdrops to achieve the photorealistic look.
some environments weve seen in the trailers looked downright nasty, like the textured tunnel that was supposed to be a road with trees on the side...
now you will say that that are just placeholders which will be gone in the final game...
well, lets wait for the final game before we declare it "winner in everything" then.
also, there is basicly only one lighting condition that we've seen so far from gt5, right?
nelsonroyale
Member
hahha this thread has really taken off...
thing is while halos lighting is good...the game just doesnt look like most of these screens in actual game motion when things are flying about....it looks good, but its nowhere near that clean...it makes a difference. Again, the lighting is great, but some of you are going too far joking it...like must make up for the fact taht the game isn't the best looking, by saying it stomps over other games in lighting
Nice balanced post above by the way...of course you wouldn't say so...you basically stomp on the game after the first sentance ahhaha. Lets just wait until GT5 is released to find out...Either way PGR4's cities look great...so even if GT5's cities might look more realistic, it doesnt lessen the graphical impact that the otehr game has
thing is while halos lighting is good...the game just doesnt look like most of these screens in actual game motion when things are flying about....it looks good, but its nowhere near that clean...it makes a difference. Again, the lighting is great, but some of you are going too far joking it...like must make up for the fact taht the game isn't the best looking, by saying it stomps over other games in lighting
Nice balanced post above by the way...of course you wouldn't say so...you basically stomp on the game after the first sentance ahhaha. Lets just wait until GT5 is released to find out...Either way PGR4's cities look great...so even if GT5's cities might look more realistic, it doesnt lessen the graphical impact that the otehr game has
Apex said:
your point is?
id say thats easily 5 times the polycount compared to the environments we've seen of gt5.
stuff like this:
or the ugly cardboard stuff in all the trailers is what i think of when i think of gt5 environments.
the cars are a class of there own. no question.
but environment and lighting is all smoke and mirrors.
Yoboman
Member
You realise that is modified and filtered to look like that for the purpose of the trailer? The environments look nothing like that ingame :|Tk0n said:your point is?
id say thats easily 5 times the polycount compared to the environments we've seen of gt5.
stuff like this:
or the ugly cardboard stuff in all the trailers is what i think of when i think of gt5 environments.
the cars are a class of there own. no question.
but environment and lighting is all smoke and mirrors.
MaddenNFL64
Member
Crysis video.
http://ftpclubic91.jeuxvideo.fr/tem..._6_-_niveau_inedit_e3_2007_anglais_40165.divx
Check out that lighting.
http://ftpclubic91.jeuxvideo.fr/tem..._6_-_niveau_inedit_e3_2007_anglais_40165.divx
Check out that lighting.
jet1911 said:
Raw Capture:
http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/raw.jpg
Whats shown on screen when it takes the photomode shot:
http://dot50cal.the-horror.com/render.jpg
When I get my 360 back from RROD, I can do a better comparison with an extra picture, the bungie.net image. But it appears from the image shown on the 360 while taking the photo, no extra processing effects are added besides AA and a resolution bump. Whether or not that holds true for the bungie.net shot is what Im most interested in.
freethought
Member
urk said:
Can't believe no one touched this. I'm disappointed GAF.
Great comparison. Only issue is there are not many 'dynamic' light sources. I wasn't expecting the lightmaps to change and they didn't.Dot50Cal said:
As a more general statement (not directed at any specific poster): I played Halo 3, yet I didn't oogle at the photo mode (in fact I only took a single screen in the photo mode in the single time I used the theatre). I haven't seen any indication that the photomode cleans up or improves on the lighting. As I said before, I think Halo 3's lighting is pretty damned good...and that opinion was formed based on the game running on a 720p DLP, not from the theatre or from the photo mode.
Processing effects are REMOVED when screenshots are taken. I attempted to snap various shots of cutscenes, for instance, and things look much worse. The lighting intensity is dropped, certain effects don't properly display, and the depth of field is removed (such as when Chief grabs Guilty Spark at the end of Chapter 5 - there is depth of field while viewing it but it is removed when a shot is taken).Tab0203 said:
Here's one example...
Notice how the fire effects are pretty much destroyed?
proposition
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I still think that in terms of ambience, Half-Life 2 is right up there with the best.
It's not the most technically-advanced lighting in the world and the drop shadows are not very realistic.
But the lightmaps are the most natural looking I've seen...the tone of the visuals is absolutely amazing. One stand-out moment for me was just after the accident that sees you stranded outside Dr Kleiner's lab, the lighting in that trainyard area is so natural looking.
It's not the most technically-advanced lighting in the world and the drop shadows are not very realistic.
But the lightmaps are the most natural looking I've seen...the tone of the visuals is absolutely amazing. One stand-out moment for me was just after the accident that sees you stranded outside Dr Kleiner's lab, the lighting in that trainyard area is so natural looking.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Photo mode also seems to be disabling LOD among other things. You can clearly see a lot of added foliage in the distance (that I'm guessing would fade into view as you get closer to it?) as well as better looking distant detail in general.dark10x said: