DeepEnigma
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It seems to be very selective, innit.
Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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FunkMiller
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Shouting 'kill the Jews' or anything similar is against section 5 of the public order act. Arrests should be made.
Although, Don't look to social media videos for the truth of how the police handle things. They're usually edited out of context.
If the coppers feel they're on solid legal ground, they will intervene to arrest.
Glad to hear it was dealt with even back then.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
FunkMiller
Banned
Yeah.
The problem for the police is not the protestors themselves. They are quite happy to go in mob handed and nick them.
But they have to be on very firm legal grounds. There are a lot of solicitors who exist only to get involved in arrests and charges around politically sensitive events.
DeepEnigma
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Seeing some kremlin propaganda accounts going full shill for Hamas is quite revealing.
Doesn't seem fair to accuse him of walking it back. He stands by his earlier tweet and clarifies it.
DeepEnigma
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He deleted it. Should have left it up.
If you stand by it, leave it. The internet doesn't forget.
Edit: I take that back, it does get convenient amnesia based on ideology or brand loyalty.
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DeafTourette
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That's the point tho.... If you want the civvie Palestinians to rebel, where would their funding come from? Their resources? Their weapons? We want the Palestinians to be FREE and to have self determination from Hamas... My whole paragraph you quoted is asking HOW? From WHERE? From WHOM?
And it's good to have integrity and equally applied standards. They should have to be on firm legal grounds. Therefore it can stand challenges about being unfair or selective by defenders.
StreetsofBeige
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Amen to that.
Anyone being shit on, never back off. The thing the trouble makers all want is for them to be allowed the first attack and then when countered, cry wolf to stop or hope the victims lose interest. All that does is allow the first movers room to live another day and do more another time.
Think of it like a hornets nest pissing you off in your backyard. You can either swat them one by one or avoid them hoping they go away. They probably wont go away. Or you just say fuck it and look for the nest nearby in one of the trees and get rid of it. Will another nest pop up again? Maybe. But at least that hoard of hornets are done for now. And it takes time to build another. In the meantime, you can always be proactive and prevent another giant nest forming in the future.
Never let someone retread their stupidity on you over and over again. If you do, you got a lot of patience and tolerate being repeatedly jabbed.
DeafTourette
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The difference between what you're asking and what the American Civil Rights Movement did is that the ACRM strategically had news people there to record what was happening out in the open ... Showing the world what the policies of Jim Crow was doing to them ... in Gaza, Hamas would just kill them. No out in the open. And there wouldn't be any news people there to record it.
Come on, you know this.
DeepEnigma
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Macron's jackboots don't fuck around. They should know this.
I think they're just stupefied that they pushed too far, and the political pendulum is reaching the peak before it comes swinging back twice as fast.
We tried to warn all the useful idiots over the past decade plus.
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ThisIsMyDog
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I feel nauseous as I think about all those people kidnapped to Gaza. Terrifying. Many of them are young women in the hands of fucking animals.
It's funny how certain parties reference proportionality since it's a key principle in any modern country's war doctrine. But those individuals misuse the term much like people misunderstand the word theory when talking about science.
Proportionality does not exclude civilian casualties, it is about minimizing collateral damage when there is a clear military objective. When Hamas chooses to use a civilian location to commence attacks, civilian collateral damage is not on Israel. It's on Hamas. If rockets are being fired from a location, you destroy that location. It really is that simple.
DeepEnigma
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He broke her brain and the cognitive dissonance had her stuttering with a failed attempt to challenge the logic in such controlling language and phrases being used.
FunkMiller
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Everyone can turn themselves blue in the face over the merits of Israel's response, but the simple objective fact is that what Hamas has done is unfortunately a casus belli for full blown warfare, and there's no point skipping around the subject at this point. Article 51 is pretty damned clear on the matter:
The Israelis will cite that they are undertaking warfare against Hamas as a measure of self defence to prevent further incursions by Hamas with similar results.
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StreetsofBeige
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I dont think many people are misusing the topic of proportionate counter attacks. They know better.
They just want the counter attacker (often a western side) going through pain in the ass hoops trying to meticulously counter like saints, when the first side likely (like this event) did no holds barred killing. So when the side retaliating decides to disproportionately wipe out the other side, the first side cry like babies because now they are facing an unchained pack of pitbulls the owner let loose and they have no idea when the owner will call them back into the house. So in the meantime, they are fucked.
Dont piss off the owner and his dogs, and nobody gets bitten.
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ChuckeRearmed
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I wonder what do these women think about inequality and women's rights....
True victims
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DeepEnigma
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When all else fails, whip out the victimhood card.
LordOfChaos
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Ofc, terrorist supporters invite police into their violent protests because they are also terrorists.
Show me 1 pro-Israeli protest that made police go after them.
Fucking radical violent bloodthirsty Islam.
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This is 2nd Lt. Adar Ben Simon, 20 an IDF search and rescue officer. On Saturday she was leading a goup of bootcamp recruits when she texted her sister: "9 terrorists coming at us. I'm with bullets in the chamber"She hid her recruits and along with fellow commanders engaged the terrorists. She was killed in the gun battle - most of her recruits survived.
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Courageous young woman. RIP.
TheInfamousKira
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I fucking *+*+*+*LOVE*+*+*+*the REEEE caliber keyboard Warriors who legitimately feel like their entire existence is threatened when somebody gets their pronouns wrong cosplaying as fucking war generals because they saw a Whatculture countdown that included Spec Ops.
That is DECADENT ignorance.
FunkMiller
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Rossco EZ
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Europe has, its full of these type of people.
TheInfamousKira
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DeepEnigma
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Adjusted.
Elysium44
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I would like to hope recent events are opening a lot of people's eyes and making them realise we have a problem we can't continue to ignore forever.
Elysium44
Banned
It's a shame he doesn't have the courage of his convictions to truly stand by it and take the flak. The original tweet was the first time I've agreed with him on something. Then he quickly got scared of the backlash. The thing is, the people who criticised him aren't worth trying to appease, and he should understand that.
ipukespiders
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Not current, but funny none the less.
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Rossco EZ
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hopefully but more than likely nothing will happen, will be met by the good old 'you cant say that its racist' then silenced.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I fell into a burnin ring of fire...
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Yeah, it's really the priority and the Witch hunt culture I was criticizing. That's why I joked earlier that he had accidentally given a true response. I'm sure the dude is FEELING IT, like any person with blood ties to the conflict.
But again, culture he helped create, and keeping the Wheel turning is apparently worth more to him.
FunkMiller
Banned
I'm afraid I'm more cynical about it than that. I don't think he cut it to appease his followers or prevent offence to them.
I think he took it down because it might affect Naughty Dog's bottom line.
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StreetsofBeige
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I just started watching the feed. every once in a while you hear some old guys talking (I'm assuming they are the guys who set up the cams?).
Anyone know what they are saying? Scared? Pissed? Not even talking about the war?
FunkMiller
Banned
People get called racist for being critical of Islam.
You know, that famous race of people, the Islams...
LordOfChaos
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