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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks
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crazygambit
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I've been playing totem shaman lately and secret paladin and hunter aren't bad match ups at all in my experience. You have a lot of tools to deal with them. I'm running double spirit wolf though, which helps a lot against aggro. I have easily an 80% win rate against face hunter, mid range is a little harder, but just save Hex for savanna lion's and you're golden. If you win the joust with healing wave (which has a decent chance of happening against hunter) then you win right there and then.
Aggro paladin is easy for the same reasons hunter is easy. Secret paladin is again a little harder, but it's not that hard to play around the secrets, and you have somewhat decent AoE. I wouldn't say I'm unfavored against those decks. There are much worse match ups. Control Warrior seems much more difficult, since unless you get an explosive opening (or Bloodlust at just the right time) you can't put enough pressure before the big hitters start dropping. Dragon priest is also a toss up, depending on who gets a better draw IMO, maybe he's the slight favorite there as well.
This is my Tempo Mage list, it's been doing amazing on ladder. The only cards I keep flip-flopping on are Spellslingers, I switch them to Arcane Intellect and back every other day.
It's by far the deck with the most amount of RNG involved though
The card I really want to fit in is Fallen Hero, but for that I would have to remove the secrets package, and that is way too powerful right now.
It's by far the deck with the most amount of RNG involved though
The card I really want to fit in is Fallen Hero, but for that I would have to remove the secrets package, and that is way too powerful right now.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Valiant thunderbluff seems like a fun card. Got so much ridiculous value out of it versus a priest who couldn't remove it, whom also wasted all his good AOE removal already.
This idiot also put a power word glory on my dude and then a turn later played a auchenai soul priest which ended up making the PW glory deal 4 damage to his face. He didn't get a heal off the first turn after he played it because all I did was remove a minion instead of hitting face. Then he did the auchenai soulpriest so I actually benefitted from him including that card.
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I might have to craft mistwalker. I can see him working well because he turns those totems you include in your deck into actual threats, especially with valiant. Flame tongue totem, mana tide totem, and vitality totem become 1/4s which are then buffed by valiant to become 3/4s, 5/4, etc..
This idiot also put a power word glory on my dude and then a turn later played a auchenai soul priest which ended up making the PW glory deal 4 damage to his face. He didn't get a heal off the first turn after he played it because all I did was remove a minion instead of hitting face. Then he did the auchenai soulpriest so I actually benefitted from him including that card.
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I might have to craft mistwalker. I can see him working well because he turns those totems you include in your deck into actual threats, especially with valiant. Flame tongue totem, mana tide totem, and vitality totem become 1/4s which are then buffed by valiant to become 3/4s, 5/4, etc..
Mobius and pet octopus
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double
CelticKnight
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Yeah, I've been neglecting the other classes a bit, but I'll make time to get them all to level 10.
I have a rank 18, so I'm nearly there.
Thanks for the help both, much appreciated.
Lmao this is so true.
I have to live through played first scenarios way too often with Death's Bite.
Brofist
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Congrats! I'm a win away on my Warlock
MetroidPrimeRib
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How did Deathrattles work before for them to come up with the method they have now of play order? Were they just busted?
I'm playing Riddler Paladin against a Tempo Mage. I've had a Noble Sacrifice secret up for a very long time, like 5 turns.
I have 5 damage on the board and a charge of a Light's Justice. The mage has 4 health.
He plays Mirror Image, then uses Polymorph: Boar on one of them.
"Thank you!"
I have 5 damage on the board and a charge of a Light's Justice. The mage has 4 health.
He plays Mirror Image, then uses Polymorph: Boar on one of them.
"Thank you!"
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
When I was just starting out and before I learned about the more complex things like turn order for deathrattles I thought they were just priority based. Like something that spawned a minion like Haunted Creeper or the Shredders would trigger before something like Sylvanas or Death's Bite.
I don't know if that would work with Hearthstone's coding or internal logic.
I don't know if that would work with Hearthstone's coding or internal logic.
Mobius and pet octopus
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One of the problems apparently was that it worked different on ladder than when playing with friends.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Isn't Sideshow Spelleater like that? Or does it only not work in Tavern Brawl
Little Nemo
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Does she work on boss hero powers in adventures?
If I started to list all the weird, inconsistent card interactions in the game then we would be here all day.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Nope
I'm still a big fan of silence on a 5/10 ancient of war making it a 5/5 while the 4/6 druid of the claw is still a 4/6 despite having the exact same card text.
But nah, slots are too obtuse.
No, but they said that ahead of time so that's atleast intentional.
But nah, slots are too obtuse.
No, but they said that ahead of time so that's atleast intentional.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I think that might be because the Druid of the Claw's two forms count as three different minions - the base Druid of the Claw, the Charge and the Taunt. Ancient of War is all the same.
...maybe?
Could you explain the deathrattle order?
Also, if I remove all the board of a paladin, and they had that secret that revives one minion, which one gets the priority?
Yeah, Druid of the Claw is a transformation effect while Ancient of War is a buff. Transformation effects cannot be silenced. Druid of the Claw's card text really should reflect that it is a transformation effect, but it's possible that the text is too long, so they've kept it as is.
Yeah, that's right. It makes sense in practice but the text is actually wrong and was fixed in later Druid cards.
Exact same text, but Claw transforms into a different minion.
Keyword: Transform--you can't silence this off since they turn into a new minion.
And for a bonus:
Works as you'd expect, becomes a 2/2 after silenced with both choices like the War. All they need to do is add transform to Druid of the Claw's text and it bugs the shit out of me because it currently makes no sense. Like Druid of the Saber is the EXACT SAME text, lol.
Simplest example I can tell you is this:
1st scenario: You play Sylvanas first and they play Highmane next. If you run your Sylvanas into their Highmane you won't steal one of the the doggie that pops out. That's because the Sylvanas was played first and its deathrattle resolves before the Highmane Deathrattle resolves.
2nd scenario: You play Sylvanas AFTER they played their Highmane. If you run your Sylvanas into their Highmane then you WILL steal one the doggies that pops out. The Highmane deathratthle resolves before the Sylvanas deathrattle resolves as it was played first.
I believe the one on the left side of the board gets revived.
thanks! maybe thats why my sylvana plays are not optimal
Gadgetzan Auctioneers ability allows for a player to potentially draw many cards for little cost. Card draw and card advantage are important to the gameoverall, games are less interesting when a player draws their entire deck. This change brings Gadgetzan Auctioneers cost more in line with its power level.
4head
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Wow that sounds so broken, a 5 mana 4/4 that draws your entire deck is op as fuck, is like having a 2 mana card that does the same thing, thankfully blizzard will never make the same mistake again.....................
CountBlack
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About to craft another legendary. I play mostly Dragon Priest right now.
Should I craft Vol'jin or Chillmaw?
Should I craft Vol'jin or Chillmaw?
Face Hunter has only commons and rares. The only BRM card is Quick Shot.
Aggro Secret Paladin is also very cheap, with just the 2 Mysterious Challengers as epics.
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thepotatoman
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why Steve Blum isn't Rexxar in HS???
CountBlack
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immediate regret on the chillmaw
Well if he always has Huffer, then I suppose he was always lying.
You misheard him all those times before. He said "I hunt a loan."
Dude has debts, man. Axes and bear food ain't cheap.
Mobius and pet octopus
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He hunts a loan because his cards have low value and banks won't help him start a business because he has no collateral.
Those hound puppies must be really expensive.
We need more hunters on ladder because fuck secret paladins. Dr 6 is so fucking broken. Whoever approved that card is a fucking moron. Like if you're even on board it's an automatic loss if they play it. The only way to deal with it is to be massively ahead on board, or have a flare in hand.
MetroidPrimeRib
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i have never seen secret paladin yet
i guess i am lucky
i guess i am lucky
It's not that common anymore, but it was all you played the first few days after tgt came out.
DyslexicAlucard
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Honestly, I don't find it that strong. As a single card of course it's powerful. But for it to work well, you have to fill your deck with, honestly, some pretty bad cards. Plus, if/when your opponent deals with it, you're out of gas.
BigJonsson
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I put Justicar in my tempo mage deck, useful so far
Honestly its the combination of the deck thinning and divine favor that makes it really messed up. If they play Dr 6 and then follow with its an instant win. Also makes me rage when I'm playing patron and their secrets take forever to proc.
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