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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks

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Pooya

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I'm climbing with good old zoo... it's working great against everything except dragon priest...good thing not many of them these days, control priest is easy. I even beat a control warrior with justicar and lot of other bullshit. Zoo always works I guess.
 
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How about that. He gets malygos off unstable portal. I got competitive spirit off saraad. But he then plays it into mirror entity.

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think im gonna drop dragon warrior for dragon priest this season. trying to make a dragon paladin deck now with the tgt cards. i think it looks alright
 

Dahbomb

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We really need more strong 7 mana cards to balance Dr 7. Cards like Malorne simply don't have enough impact. I'd love to see poison mechanics where monsters start out strong but get progressively weaker. 7 Mana 9/9 that becomes a 7/7 next turn, 5/5 after, etc.
At least we got Chillmaw and Eadric amirite?
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
The rising popularity of control priest makes me want to die on the inside. I always hated fighting that bullshit, now it's time to lose games to thoughtsteal again.
 
I got a confuse off saraad. And then I got a burgle off saraad and a confuse off burgle. This card is so confusing, I almost lost because I forgot it would switch my 3/1 into a 1/3.

It was a pretty cool game though. I got that shadowfiend that reduces cards you draw by 1 cost. Then got antonidas off comboing that shadowfiend with azure drake. My next draw got me a sorceress apprentice so that was antonidas for 6 + apprentice for 1, which gave me a 1 mana confuse and a 2 mana vaporize which he ran chromagus into because who plays around vaporize. 2 turns later double fireball to face for exact lethal with hero power.
 

Servbot #42

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i finally crafted Alexstrasza guys! I just wanted to play control warrior with alex and i had mixed success so far, getting rekt by secret paladins. It's definitely a deck i have to practice more. might try to get legend with it, switching decks every season seems cool.
 
I know what card you're talking about, dude. =P

But comparing him to Dr. Boom?

Eadric is awesome. It is great when you're ahead since all your minions trade up or go face. And it is still great when you are behind because its a 3/7 that has a huge impact.

There are times when it isn't great though, like freeze mage or against shamans where you might actually be buffing their totems. I'm not sure why people don't play it in more lists, except for the fact that patron warrior still exists and perhaps people still don't want to play control paladin.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Eadric is awesome. It is great when you're ahead since all your minions trade up or go face. And it is still great when you are behind because its a 3/7 that has a huge impact.

There are times when it isn't great though, like freeze mage or against shamans where you might actually be buffing their totems. I'm not sure why people don't play it in more lists, except for the fact that patron warrior still exists and perhaps people still don't want to play control paladin.

I think it's more that most people doing paladin are either aggro or secret. I do run him in my midrange and like it a lot though, I'm surprised people don't play the deck more because it's been really strong for me.
 

Pooya

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There are so many damn casino mages on ladder and they are all lucky %#$#!. Decks like these are what makes you lose hope in this game, this is not ok.
 

Dahbomb

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This is not about whether or not dr. boom is balanced. You're changing the subject.
I am saying that if given the choice between Eadric the Pure and Dr Balanced for the 7 mana slot... just about ANY Paladin deck would pick Dr Balanced. Sure if a super heavy Control Paladin wanted Eadric the Pure then they would put it in but usually not a the expense of Dr Balanced (they would have both).

Dr Balanced being targeted by BGH doesn't actually change this, people still run Dr Balanced with impunity.


The whole defense of the card from Blizzard was "well there aren't enough 7 drops in the game so of course Dr Balanced gets picked". Well they added a Paladin 7 drop and people don't care, they still pick Dr Balanced.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
For narrow cards like Eadric, it needs to be so overwhelming when it does work as to be game winning in order to justify running it against an unknown field.

Harrison was like that last season because of Patron, and Eadric is no Harrison.
 

Dahbomb

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It's just the same as the Shredder situation at the 7 mana slot. It's not that Eadric the Pure is a bad card, I actually think it's a good, usable card but when you are in that mana slot you can't have too many big drops and you want the best of the best for each slot.

Chillmaw is the only 7 drop that contests Dr Balanced's spot in a deck because of its synergy (it being a dragon itself on top of having a powerful effect). And I would say that you can run Dr Balanced in that Dragon Priest and still do work.
 
I am saying that if given the choice between Eadric the Pure and Dr Balanced for the 7 mana slot... just about ANY Paladin deck would pick Dr Balanced. Sure if a super heavy Control Paladin wanted Eadric the Pure then they would put it in but usually not a the expense of Dr Balanced (they would have both).

Dr Balanced being targeted by BGH doesn't actually change this, people still run Dr Balanced with impunity.


The whole defense of the card from Blizzard was "well there aren't enough 7 drops in the game so of course Dr Balanced gets picked". Well they added a Paladin 7 drop and people don't care, they still pick Dr Balanced.

I hit legend in gvg with a control paladin deck that didn't run dr. boom. I would have loved eadric. I don't think you should speak for others or make grand assumptions about what other people would do if they were given the choice.

Dr. boom being targetable by bgh is a big deal in control decks, because the more threats that you can run that don't have easy answers wins you control vs control matches. Dr. boom is not necessarily ran in paladin because they don't often run other threats with 7 attack, therefore the BGH is often useless when dr. boom is not being ran.

I would run dr. boom in control paladin in a meta where there are rogues and shamans, because it significantly improves those match ups for the deck. But not necessarily in secret paladin where I am dead if I don't answer a turn 6 MC properly.

Control paladin is not a popular archetype so I don't see how you know who cares about eadric or not in control paladin anyway. Hell, control paladin was barely even played in gvg so I don't even understand how you think you can speak on this as if it is a factual certainty.
 

Dahbomb

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Currently both the Midrange Paladin and the Control Paladin decks run Dr Balanced. The slower Secret Paladin runs Dr Balanced as well. It's only the hyper aggressive Paladin decks that don't run the card and even they sometimes have it in their deck because balance.

So what if you got Legend without playing that card? Can you say for sure that if you had played the card in the deck it would've made it more difficult to get that rank? I got Legend with Zoolock before Dr Balanced was introduced, I would loved to have had Dr Balanced in that deck back in the day.

I have been getting Rank 5 easy without playing Dr Balanced in my Grim Patron deck. So what? The card is still ridiculous and it would be the first card I would put in my deck if I needed a big threat (which Grim Patron doesn't need because it's a combo deck). BGH be damned, that dwarf is going to die to one boom bot anyway (and the other bot is going to take out an Azure Drake).
 
Currently both the Midrange Paladin and the Control Paladin decks run Dr Balanced. The slower Secret Paladin runs Dr Balanced as well. It's only the hyper aggressive Paladin decks that don't run the card and even they sometimes have it in their deck because balance.

So what if you got Legend without playing that card? Can you say for sure that if you had played the card in the deck it would've made it more difficult to get that rank? I got Legend with Zoolock before Dr Balanced was introduced, I would loved to have had Dr Balanced in that deck back in the day.

I have been getting Rank 5 easy without playing Dr Balanced in my Grim Patron deck. So what? The card is still ridiculous and it would be the first card I would put in my deck if I needed a big threat (which Grim Patron doesn't need because it's a combo deck). BGH be damned, that dwarf is going to die to one boom bot anyway (and the other bot is going to take out an Azure Drake).

Hell yeah I can say it would've been harder, because I am giving my opponent an answerable card I know that they are running. Even trump ran paladin without dr. boom, in a midrange build, and his reasoning was the exact same as mine.

You point out that dr. boom doesn't fit in grim patron. Well, it doesn't necessarily fit in control paladin either. I don't even understand your source for this information you're pulling out of thin air.

But whatever, you seem to be intent on pushing your opinion around as if it is fact.
 

_DrMario_

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“Leeroy Jenkins created a strategy that revolved around trying to defeat your opponent in one turn without requiring any cards on the board. Fighting for board control and battles between minions make an overall game of Hearthstone more fun and compelling, but taking 20+ damage in one turn is not particularly fun or interactive”

“Leeroy Jenkins created a strategy that revolved around trying to defeat your opponent in one turn without requiring any cards on the board. Fighting for board control and battles between minions make an overall game of Hearthstone more fun and compelling, but taking 20+ damage in one turn is not particularly fun or interactive”

“Leeroy Jenkins created a strategy that revolved around trying to defeat your opponent in one turn without requiring any cards on the board. Fighting for board control and battles between minions make an overall game of Hearthstone more fun and compelling, but taking 20+ damage in one turn is not particularly fun or interactive”

Fuck Blizzard. Fuck Patron Warrior. Fuck Hearthstone.
 
“Leeroy Jenkins created a strategy that revolved around trying to defeat your opponent in one turn without requiring any cards on the board. Fighting for board control and battles between minions make an overall game of Hearthstone more fun and compelling, but taking 20+ damage in one turn is not particularly fun or interactive”

“Leeroy Jenkins created a strategy that revolved around trying to defeat your opponent in one turn without requiring any cards on the board. Fighting for board control and battles between minions make an overall game of Hearthstone more fun and compelling, but taking 20+ damage in one turn is not particularly fun or interactive”

“Leeroy Jenkins created a strategy that revolved around trying to defeat your opponent in one turn without requiring any cards on the board. Fighting for board control and battles between minions make an overall game of Hearthstone more fun and compelling, but taking 20+ damage in one turn is not particularly fun or interactive”

Fuck Blizzard. Fuck Patron Warrior. Fuck Hearthstone.

consistency is (not) key
 

IceMarker

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Fuck Blizzard. Fuck Patron Warrior. Fuck Hearthstone.

Part of the reason I only play when I have a couple daily quests available or it's near the end of the season is that reason. Low to no interaction decks or hyper-aggro decks are the cancer preventing me from playing longer than I should want to.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Part of the reason I only play when I have a couple daily quests available or it's near the end of the season is that reason. Low to no interaction decks or hyper-aggro decks are the cancer preventing me from playing longer than I should want to.
Many of the interactions that I do have are predicated around RNG too. I end the season at a high enough rank and all but I'm just finding the game to be increasingly frustrating.
 
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thepotatoman

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Ugh. Why do I never see streamers lose 2-3 in the arena because the terrible player you get at 2-2 gets really really lucky?

He drafted a Questing Adventurer combo deck, double wisp plus moonfire played turn 3, and then accounted for the fact he had no cards by simply getting the perfect topdeck every single turn. Those 3 cards were the only cards I saw that were clearly drafted to use with Questing Adventurer.

Maybe arena pros would have still found ways to win that, but still feels bad.
 

manhack

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Random fel reaver in druid... didn't even see any mech synergy lol. Destroyed him though.

Yeah there is a new aggro Druid deck a lot of folks are running now. It isn't based on mechs. Mostly face damage.

I tried it and haven't had a ton of luck with it, but I am rotating through all nine deck slots now so don't really have a good sample size.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Yeah I saw reckful play it. Basically a normal druid deck with leper gnomes, living roots, fel reavers, druid of the saber and savage combatant instead of the usual late game stuff so it ends hp being super aggressive.
 
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