Mobius and pet octopus
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I think muster would be played in every paladin deck even if QM never existed. I don't think there is a better 3 drop for paladin in any archetype, aside of aldor I suppose in some decks. But you just run both.
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I think muster would be played in every paladin deck even if QM never existed. I don't think there is a better 3 drop for paladin in any archetype, aside of aldor I suppose in some decks. But you just run both.
irfaanator
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boom bots is definitely way worse than annoyotron. that deck is all based on rng and just terrible things
toddhunter
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Also some people were not around when some streamer said bloodlust was a bad "win more" card, forever making those people who heard that not play it.
So you need to be careful of that too.
I'm sorry but the EU servers are fucking garbage. Since the TGT launch I get disconnected every 2nd or 3rd game. I know I'm not the only one because my friends have the same problem.
Nice going Blizzard. I'll give this game a rest for a month and if the problem is still there, I'm done
Nice going Blizzard. I'll give this game a rest for a month and if the problem is still there, I'm done
BlackBuzzard
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God fuck Druids why am i going up against 5 of em in a row fix your goddamn matchmaking system Blizzard. Also fuck combo.
Storm Prelude
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WHEN THE DRUIDMAN THROWS IN A LIL' EXTRA
Turn 2 BIGASSTREE and fuck the Eboladin.
Turn 2 BIGASSTREE and fuck the Eboladin.
Finding that my deck dies to Face Hunter and Midrange Hunter a lot. Unleash the hounds + KJ combo followed by kill command just kills me every time.
Any suggestions?
Currently, the fun slots are the Silver Hand Regent and Wild Pyromancer. I swap it out with Mind Control Tech, Faceless Manipulator, Cult Master, and Kezan Mystic depending on what I see.
I had Tuskarr Jouster instead of healbot for a while, but I wasn't winning anything.
stampeding/peace keeper combo.. I sure haven't seen that in a while...what year is it?
5 drop is quite competitive, cut those kodos for belcher and loatheb.
You absolutely want two Argus. It will help you a lot against hunter and UTH. It will help a lot against druid and swipe even prevent their combo.
I would cut silver hand regent too and add a second shredder. You need a BGH too.
EU runs on Ogre Servers, there is a 50% chance something goes wrong.
So then all you need to do is beat each boss once and you will get all the cards?
Yes and the class challenges, you get a cardback if you kill all bosses in heroic difficulty and that can take a lot of time.
Finally finished the arena where I was disconnected in one match and I was destroyed by a druid that dropped Zombie+Zombie+Roots in turns 1-2. Then I thought that maybe it was advantageous to have the card avantage but no as he then dropped big drops one after another.
The reward was bolster and 30G for three wins. I want my money back, scammers!
The reward was bolster and 30G for three wins. I want my money back, scammers!
And the class challenges, but yeah. Just once.
Just got Alex then nefarian from unstables in one game. Felt bad for the guy I was facing
I was having problems with those additions as I had those before. I ran 1 BGH/ 2 Shredders/ 2 Belchers or 2 Defender of Argus / 2 Quartermasters last season and couldn't get higher than Rank 6. That 4 mana slot gets filled way too fast and against Hunters, you need to play cards on curve on every turn, or else you're screwed. Mulligan just gives different 4 mana drops. You wait to turn 5 and on some games, you do destroy the Face Hunter when you have coin.
Midrange will deny a QM combo with KJ + Unleash the hounds + Kill command to face.
Face just curves so well that putting up any taunt it's immediately owled.
I added back Kodo because it's a huge tempo swing against Tempo Mage and Priests who steal 2 drops. Also, I was tired of playing bgh. On Druid, it just dies to keeper or some 2 drop on the board. Mages usually have no targets and usually dies to Blastmage or Flamewaker. Rogues, it's too slow. Against warrior, it's to remove Alexstraza or Grom, but if usually once Alex is played, you are screwed. Generally, it's to stop Dr. Boom, but the card is useless especially against fatigue decks. Weak to Ysera.
I really like the addition of a Pyromancer and equality combo. Resets the board when the opponent thinks he has the game.
Dropped a 8/8 Edwin on turn 3 against patron warrior, lol what a easy game. Hit face 4 times before he could execute. He actually had execute but seemingly thought I was going to kill his ghoul and damage my Edwin instead of sapping it, big mistake.
Rogue is still the most fun class, tier 4 I don't care I'm climbing with it now, it's very frustrating at times but whatever it's still fun. I just wish we had some minions we could play that were good on their own, without combo or anything, a 2 or 3 drop in particular. Like shielded minibot is for paladin or Dark Cultist is for priest or now Aspirant is for Druid, everyone has strong early threats that help either gain board advantage or just push through their game plan except rogue. Early game for Rogue just sucks, the difference between having coin and not having coin is huge, I couldn't drop that Edwin without coin, a turn later probably game would go very differently. They printed a card like Aspirant that greatly helps with consistency in druid but Rogue got shit, if Cutpurse was their idea of early game for Rogue then I'm really scared of what Blizzard's plans are for Rogue...
Like nothing in the game has this effect that triggers by hitting face, rogue gets all the sour fruits and dumb new inventions. If it was deathrattle put a coin into your hand, I would put two of them in my deck..it would still be a weaker effect than mad scientist is for secret decks but still very worthwhile, it's time rogue gets some strong minions, the power levels for everyone else goes up each set and rogue still heavily relies on original set. no more more gimmick spells, no more combo effect, just strong on its own for early game.
Rogue is still the most fun class, tier 4 I don't care I'm climbing with it now, it's very frustrating at times but whatever it's still fun. I just wish we had some minions we could play that were good on their own, without combo or anything, a 2 or 3 drop in particular. Like shielded minibot is for paladin or Dark Cultist is for priest or now Aspirant is for Druid, everyone has strong early threats that help either gain board advantage or just push through their game plan except rogue. Early game for Rogue just sucks, the difference between having coin and not having coin is huge, I couldn't drop that Edwin without coin, a turn later probably game would go very differently. They printed a card like Aspirant that greatly helps with consistency in druid but Rogue got shit, if Cutpurse was their idea of early game for Rogue then I'm really scared of what Blizzard's plans are for Rogue...
Like nothing in the game has this effect that triggers by hitting face, rogue gets all the sour fruits and dumb new inventions. If it was deathrattle put a coin into your hand, I would put two of them in my deck..it would still be a weaker effect than mad scientist is for secret decks but still very worthwhile, it's time rogue gets some strong minions, the power levels for everyone else goes up each set and rogue still heavily relies on original set. no more more gimmick spells, no more combo effect, just strong on its own for early game.
competitive hearthstone is complete ResidetnSleeper, everyone has same decks now, druid patron, third one is mostly handlock or maaaaybe priest/paladin instead, we get painful to watch mirror matches, a lot of games now are just decided by card draw order. This conquest format is really awful too with these stale lineup everyone has.
Gotta give it to Amaz, his ATLC is the only hearthstone event worth watching.
Smooth Operator
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Ropecoaching all day
I haven't watched much competitive Hearthstone lately, do they not have bans anymore? Seems like making people show up with 4/5 decks and adding a ban phase would help the deck variety and add some additional strategy before the match.
BlackBuzzard
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Nope no bans which i think is a mistake. Competitive meta is about as stale as ladder meta.
Lactose_Intolerant
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lol, that was so bad.
Lifecoach continues to be the most entertaining player just because of his face.
BlackBuzzard
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Pavel with the rank 25 plays.
Players should be allowed to ban cards in a particular format.
Now that would be interesting actually. Let's say every player can ban 5 cards from the entire pool of cards (against the other player and vice versa).
Dr Balanced
Mysterious Challenger
Force of Nature
Mad Scientist
Emperor Thaurissan
BANNED!
Now that would be interesting actually. Let's say every player can ban 5 cards from the entire pool of cards (against the other player and vice versa).
Dr Balanced
Mysterious Challenger
Force of Nature
Mad Scientist
Emperor Thaurissan
BANNED!
Unfortunately this goes against Blizzard's always connected philosophy. The game would be substantially more interesting and diverse with a few important card nerfs, but the hands off approach to nerfs is really starting to have a damning effect on the game. Makes me look back on stuff like the Tinkmaster nerf and shake my head.
No I am not saying that there should be something built into the game... I am saying there could be a Challengestone like tournament that does this. Of course when you make a tournament you can make whatever rules you want.
If you don't want support from Blizzard, sure.
I am not following this, a format like Kripp's Challengestone was fine. I don't know if it was supported by Blizzard or not but it got a decent amount of sponsors and more importantly a good amount of viewers.
I don't think what I am suggested is really any different from what Kripp suggested. And his format called for banning out whole group of cards.
I would like to see a tournament like this just to see what cards people would ban out with a limited amount of bans. You could totally destroy a few competitive decks by removing a single card (Druids with FoN, Grim Patron with Warsong, Secret Paladin with MC) from them.
Blizzard already provides 0 support for tournaments.
BlackBuzzard
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Ostkaka with the Dragon Priest deck with not enough Dragons such a fail.
He did win with it at least twice before, but I think it is way too greedy with pyromancers and 2 cabal shadow priests. He should just run control priest if he is going to go with those tech choices.
Eh, shit draws happen. He had at least 7 dragons in the deck, but sometimes your deck hates you and they're all at the bottom.
Same shit different week. At least Control Priest is relevant now I guess.
Mobius and pet octopus
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That is not true. The whole blizcon point qualifier stuff. And he is right in pointing out that you need to conform to what blizzard says in order to have blizcon points as a reward.
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thepotatoman
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Should be done after drafting classes so you know for sure your bans hurt the other guy more than they hurt you. Otherwise you might as well ban Wisp unless you have something tricky up your sleeve.
Then you could decide to ban something like Dr. Boom to hurt all his classes a little bit, or ban something like Execute to cripple that one class, or ban Worgen Commander to outright kill a certain deck.
It'd be a fun tournament, though might end up being a bunch of zoo and face decks that are super flexible and can do a lot with a ban of healbot and sludge belcher.
I could honestly buy it. Secret Paladin is probably the easiest deck to play that this game has ever seen.
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