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[toddhunter]

I don't know man whenever Thunderbuff Valiant gets played and I don't have an immediate answer I pretty much lose the game. That card ends up absorbing some heavy removals.

I think it just doesn't quite snowball enough. When you look at it, you still need to hero power to get the advantage and need to have other totems. I'd pretty much prefer to have bloodlust or mukla at that point in the unlikely event you have minions sticking AND have more totems left to play. What I tend to see is you get some value, but your totems are cleared anyway and a 3/6 doesn't do much by itself.

Very meta specific of course and for all the talk of justicar in CW it is shamam that might get the use out of it, but the 6-7 punch is way too slow to start generating endless buffed taunts. Dropping fire elemental and boom is always going to be better.

Meanwhile random idea time. Move flare to be a neutral card?

 

[Haly]

Why exactly? like most TCGs work just like that. It's not something unusual. You can't keep printing better cards. HS card pool is still small but not for much longer.

Because if they do then:

୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ NOW WE RIOT ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ NOW WE RIOT ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨
୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨ NOW WE RIOT ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

Seriously. People will be upset. Many Hearthstone players are not TCG players, Hearthstone is likely their first TCG game. Telling them the Legendaries they so painstakingly crafted/bought will no longer be used would be a PR nightmare.

 

[squidyj]

Why exactly? like most TCGs work just like that. It's not something unusual. You can't keep printing better cards. HS card pool is still small but not for much longer.

In part because Hearthstone has billed itself to a casual audience that isn't going to understand that shit.
In part because it's a digital game where you don't own your cards and it's basically saying fuck you.
In part because it's a digital game and cards can be changed at any time and as such a move as extreme as removing cards from the game is a little overboard.

It'd be more interesting to have varying formats. To have venues where you can play with the full set of cards and those where a more active hand is taken in balancing (I shudder at the thought).

 

[Haly]

They would never do that either, squidy.

The risk there is creating a tacit "best/offical format" that'll just end up overshadowing the base game.

They won't even balance for Arena. The idea of maintaining multiple formats is completely toxic to them.

 

[Cat Party]

Meanwhile random idea time. Move flare to be a neutral card?

I don't think neutral spells are on the horizon.

 

[squidyj]

They would never do that either, squidy.

The risk there is creating a tacit "best/offical format" that'll just end up overshadowing the base game.

They won't even balance for Arena. The idea of maintaining multiple formats is completely toxic to them.

this is correct but sometimes it's nice to want things.

 

[Dahbomb]

Blizzard already removed cards from the game.

 

[toddhunter]

I don't think neutral spells are on the horizon.

I think it is time they could add a few, maybe some legendaries.

Stuff that messes with armour/weapons etc or a shield.

 

[Dahbomb]

Something I didn't realize before but Bolf also protects against Hunter's hero power. That's actually a pretty big deal in the match up because a lot of the time Hunter's can just sit there using hero power despite you having a wall of taunts up and then kill you with a top dick burn through the taunts.

Bolf is definitely legit in Handlock though. It's just I wouldn't play Handlock in this current meta unless I was a masochist.

I am curious to see how it interacts with Blade Flurry.

 

[toddhunter]

Something I didn't realize before but Bolf also protects against Hunter's hero power. That's actually a pretty big deal in the match up because a lot of the time Hunter's can just sit there using hero power despite you having a wall of taunts up and then kill you with a top dick burn through the taunts.

Bolf is definitely legit in Handlock though. It's just I wouldn't play Handlock in this current meta unless I was a masochist.

Doesn't a healbot do basically the same thing? Taunted bolf will take out minions, but a healbot will still be a 3/3 once the hunter does 9 unblockable damage.

 

[Dahbomb]

Doesn't a healbot do basically the same thing? Taunted bolf will take out minions, but a healbot will still be a 3/3 once the hunter does 9 unblockable damage.

It acts like a 3rd Healbot with some extra utility (like acting as armor if you have near max HP). And let me tell you as a Handlock player, if they could have an extra Healbot they would take it.

Basically it's a Healbot that you can play on curve and not feel sad about it.

 

[toddhunter]

It acts like a 3rd Healbot with some extra utility (like acting as armor if you have near max HP). And let me tell you as a Handlock player, if they could have an extra Healbot they would take it.

Basically it's a Healbot that you can play on curve and not feel sad about it.

Ah ok, running all three makes sense.

 

[Dahbomb]

I was just fortunate enough to test Bolf vs Blade Flurry.

The Warlock took no damage but Bolf took double damage (went from 9 to 6 when the weapon was 3 damage).

 

[ricelord]

starting to have mirror matches with control wars on ladder . Every game lead to fatigue and we each trying to play around each other cards. we are actually using our brains to out play each other, instead of mindlessly going for face. There is hope for hearthstone after all.

Spoiler

one can dream.

 

[Dahbomb]

Damage from overkill on Bolf actually doesn't even damage the hero.

Card is better than anticipated. In games where I survived long enough to play the card I eventually easily won the games. Definitely improves your match up against Freeze Mage and Oil Rogue.


I wish I had some way to record my matches today. There were some hilarious situations presented to the opponent when Bolf came into play. I was playing against a Druid and when it was usually turn 9 combo turn I played Bolf and he spend like 20 seconds reading that card LMAO! (won that game) In one of the games Bolf got silenced though but I still won anyway.

 

[squidyj]

starting to have mirror matches with control wars on ladder . Every game lead to fatigue and we each trying to play around each other cards. we are actually using our brains to out play each other, instead of mindlessly going for face. There is hope for hearthstone after all.

Spoiler

one can dream.

yeah one can dream. usually in the middle of one of those sorts of matches, get in a nice nap.

 

[Kornflayx]

starting to have mirror matches with control wars on ladder . Every game lead to fatigue and we each trying to play around each other cards. we are actually using our brains to out play each other, instead of mindlessly going for face. There is hope for hearthstone after all.

Spoiler

one can dream.

thank god that's not every game. When I come home from work the last thing I want is to play 2 games in 40 minutes.

Ain't nobody got that time for that

 

[Dahbomb]

Turn 4 Lethal with Token Druid (it says 5 mana on his side but he had Darnassus):

 

[ZeroX03]

So Tavern Brawl is pretty much concede until you get a decent hero power, huh?

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

So Tavern Brawl is pretty much concede until you get a decent hero power, huh?

I only played 2 matches. My win was due to someone not wanting to even try to make a comeback after turn 3. But I've watched some streamers go at it and I don't think most of the games go that way.

 

[Zoggy]

opening hearthstone packs is the best dopamine rush in videogames.

got dreadscale and a golden Rhonin in one pack.

thats 5 legendaries in the last 20 or so packs. all TGT, i don't think i've ever gotten legendaries opening classic or GVG packs.

dusting the stupid hunter card, now do i dust rhonin? i kind of want alexstraza ysera or malygos.

 

[Stephen_drewz]

Think I give up on beating Kel Thuzad from the Naxx adventure. Seen a few videos and each one just has perfect draws to get the combo off before its too late. After about 20 attempts I can't seem to do it.

Starting to question whether I even care to finish it now.

 

[Papercuts]

I hate divine favor with a burning hot passion. I already had a bad mulligan, but thank you for beating up my corpse even more.

 

[Zoggy]

hold on a damn minute.

malorne is malfurion's dad, so its a druid legend.

gromash is garrosh's father, makes sense that hes a warrior legendary.

but varian wrynn is anduin's dad, ytf is he not a priest card?

you fucked up blizzard.

 

[Lumine]

So Tavern Brawl is pretty much concede until you get a decent hero power, huh?

Ha, your hero power changed every time you use it, so no. The Brawl was a little too random for my tastes, but I've enjoyed it anyway. Finally I could make a proper Inspire deck and it worked!

 

[I'm an expert]

Varian in wow lore is one of the greatest warriors (class) and he also has a very specific relationship with the horde. Makes total sense. Anduin in his current form is a fairly recent character and they only made him priest because he's too much of a clown to be anything else. His father is embarrassed by him.

 

[Zoggy]

ok i just skimmed the wiki pages, because i was reading up on wow stuff. never played the game so all this stuff is new.

varian is the leader of the alliance, arent they fighting the horde? especially garrosh who's a bad guy and (former?) warchief of the horde. varian is a good guy captain america type, he doesn't belong with an evil guy like garrosh.

 

[FeD.nL]

ok i just skimmed the wiki pages, because i was reading up on wow stuff. never played the game so all this stuff is new.

varian is the leader of the alliance, arent they fighting the horde? especially garrosh who's a bad guy and (former?) warchief of the horde. varian is a good guy captain america type, he doesn't belong with an evil guy like garrosh.

Varian was kidnapped and eventually became a gladiator, Lo'gosh, before returning as king.

 

[I'm an expert]

ok i just skimmed the wiki pages, because i was reading up on wow stuff. never played the game so all this stuff is new.

varian is the leader of the alliance, arent they fighting the horde? especially garrosh who's a bad guy and (former?) warchief of the horde. varian is a good guy captain america type, he doesn't belong with an evil guy like garrosh.

Read Varian's past and you'll see why he has a different perspective on the horde. But obviously they can't stay 100% true to the lore when making the game. How the fuck does Varian play Vol'jin then.

 

[sgjackson]

i think i just played the worst turn of any close to infinite arena player in the history of hearthstone

like it was so bad i just logged off for the night because i'm so mad right now

 

[ViviOggi]

I'm curious, how many infinite players do we have here? How about infinite w/ dailies (~5w average)?

My TGT average is 7.09 over 47 runs.

 

[zoukka]

I've been infinite since the day I started playing.

 

[I'm an expert]

im an infinite constructed player

 

[sgjackson]

I'm curious, how many infinite players do we have here? How about infinite w/ dailies (~5w average)?

My TGT average is 7.09 over 47 runs.

i've been about 6.5 since brm. i waffle between playing really well and flirting with 7 and playing like shit and dipping down to 6.

 

[ViviOggi]

Played one more arena game before uni and had the biggest dream opening in the history of HS

Coin Aspirant
Kill his dude and drop Silent Knight
Kill his 2nd dude, panda 2/1 Aspirant, replay Aspirant
Kill his coined Yeti with Panda and Silent Knight, drop Tazdingo and 2nd Aspirant
Value trade his next drop with Tazdingo, Silent Knight and ping, drop Druid of the Claw

Uther fucking wept

 

[Ladekabel]

I'm curious, how many infinite players do we have here? How about infinite w/ dailies (~5w average)?

My TGT average is 7.09 over 47 runs.

With the help from Heartarena, my last five arena runs were paid by the run before. Then I couldn't resist and bought packs with the money.

Only have done six arena runs since TGT launch, but my win rate went from 3 up to 6-7.

 

[Brofist]

I average about 7 wins per run, so infinite I guess.

 

[Heropon]

This mage started with the dream tempo play mana wyrm + coin + mirror image, but then CasinoStone was just beginning.

Arena games are too fast right now. I think I haven't got to turn 9 yet in this run. For example, this person threw everything he had into my face and I almost lose even with all those 2/2 minions.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

This mage started with the dream tempo play mana wyrm + coin + mirror image, but then CasinoStone was just beginning.

Arena games are too fast right now. I think I haven't got to turn 9 yet in this run. For example, this person threw everything he had into my face and I almost lose even with all those 2/2 minions.

Mana wyrm coin mirror image is actually a pretty bad use of coin.

 

[caesar]

fucking sick of utherstone right now, i'll just stick to watching streamers until new season

 

[Heropon]

Mana wyrm coin mirror image is actually a pretty bad use of coin.

Now that I think about it it's bad when your opponent has cheap removal but I was scared because I didn't have it and the last game was against another mage with a sniper Flamewaker and other shenanigans so seeing that wasn't pretty.

 

[Nirolak]

hold on a damn minute.

malorne is malfurion's dad, so its a druid legend.

gromash is garrosh's father, makes sense that hes a warrior legendary.

but varian wrynn is anduin's dad, ytf is he not a priest card?

you fucked up blizzard.

The legendaries are based on the class of the characters, not their lore.

Like Anub'arak burrows underground and ambushes people, hence Rogue. Vol'jin is a Shadow Priest, hence Priest.

 

[zoukka]

Whoa I got the memo late on Aggro Druid! Now I can play ladder again.

 

[CoolOff]

i've been about 6.5 since brm. i waffle between playing really well and flirting with 7 and playing like shit and dipping down to 6.

Same. Started TGT insanely well, at like 9+ after 15 runs, but I'm down below 7 again by now.

 

[Sande]

So why does searching "alex" in the collection return a whole bunch of seemingly random cards?

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Im at 6 wins average since TGT. If only Paladin was not such a disgusting class it would be more.

 

[bjaelke]

So why does searching "alex" in the collection return a whole bunch of seemingly random cards?

Artist: Alex Horley Orlandelli

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Alex_Horley_Orlandelli

 

[ZealousD]

they're never going to remove cards from the game, doing that would be an absolute disaster for them.

It might be a PR loss for established players but they will HAVE to do it at some point. They have to be aware of the new player experience. It is hard enough for a new player to get into the game with 2 adventures and 3 card sets. Can you imagine in 6 months when it becomes 3 adventures and 4 cards sets? It would be overwhelming! They cannot let the card pool get out of control. The game will die a slow death if they don't.

 

[zoukka]

It might be a PR loss for established players but they will HAVE to do it at some point. They have to be aware of the new player experience. It is hard enough for a new player to get into the game with 2 adventures and 3 card sets. Can you imagine in 6 months when it becomes 3 adventures and 4 cards sets? It would be overwhelming! They cannot let the card pool get out of control. The game will die a slow death if they don't.

They will never delete cards period.

 

[Heropon]

Another arena cut short because fucking perfect decks. When I see streams I don't see them facing things like this. i don't know how it's possible to get more than 4 wins of average.