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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks
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Lol....could so easily see that being real.
I don't agree with the idea that card draw shouldn't overload. I think card draw can make a great overload card if most of the cost is in the overload.
For example, what if ancestral knowledge were 1 mana, draw 3 cards, overload 4. In a situation where you desperately need an answer, this could find it and let you play it at the cost of your next turn which would be really good.
Or in a top decking situation it would be explosively game winning.
But yes currently it blows.
FieryBalrog
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Why am I not surprised that people complain that the new mechanic isn't brokenly overpowered.
"But sometimes I don't play against Aggro decks!! What do I do then?" Figure it out.
"But sometimes I don't play against Aggro decks!! What do I do then?" Figure it out.
There's like two people, can you quote them and call them out instead so you're not just shouting this into the void?
Professor Lich
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They're just like that in WoW by the way, they're pretty great. What's even better is they make this constant noise too, don't know how to describe it, but it annoys some people.That Tuskarr Jouster's turtle looks so happy!
I feel like Skeleton Knight is just a way to bait BGH. If you're running Joust cards, you're running a lot of fat minions, many which will probably have 7+ attack. His removal is wasted a bit if the card just goes back to your hand.
I didn't see anyone post this card?
Edit: I was wrong, but the image link was broken which is why I didn't see it.
Edit: I was wrong, but the image link was broken which is why I didn't see it.
Brave Archer
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Inspire: If your hand is empty, deal 2 damage to the enemy hero.
http://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3fu9xj/new_hunter_card_revealed/
Minsc
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It'd be ok if it went back in to play (ok it'd be really good and actually see play, this is a neat idea for a new way to make a sticky minion). Back in to your hand is horrible. The leftover BGH trades in to it again, costing you 12 mana (18 if you put it down a third time) for something they spent 3 on.
Regeneration would be a pretty neat idea, if you leave unspent mana crystals on your turn, and your opponent destroys a minion with regenerate (preferably one with taunt, so they don't just go face), the unspent crystals are used in returning it back to the board. Regenerate: 3 would need 3 crystals, while Regenerate: 1 would cost 1 crystal. The value of having the creature return to the board would determine the regenerate cost. So if you had a 2 mana 1/2, regenerate: 1, and did nothing on your your third turn, they'd have to kill the creature 4 times to actually finish it off, while if you only played a 2-mana spell, it'd be able to regenerate just once.
So, the whole "if you face Warrior at anything higher than 0-0 you know you're fucked" hit again. I was 3-1.
He did drop Shieldbearer T1, but then in order it went Fiery War Axe, Frothing, Death's Bite, Heroic Strike, Acolyte, Raging Worgen, Arcanite, Amani, Korkron, Mortal Strike.
Rip.
He did drop Shieldbearer T1, but then in order it went Fiery War Axe, Frothing, Death's Bite, Heroic Strike, Acolyte, Raging Worgen, Arcanite, Amani, Korkron, Mortal Strike.
Rip.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Kills a number of early game minions so there are many things that you can use it on. There are many instances where Shield Block is a dead on turn 3 and times where you don't have a weapon. Also, you can deal damage and take less on the face. It's a good alternative to have.
FieryBalrog
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Yes you typically cut anti Aggro tech when there's not that many Aggro decks just like you already cut Chow etc
They call it "joust" everywhere except on the actual cards. I guess it's like the 50% miss ogres where it could easily be called something but they don't think they'll ever have to combine it with anything that that makes the card text too long.
Master Jouster stands out as having a lot of potential. For when it's coming out, the +1/+1 over Sunwalker is actually critical, since it lets it single hit creatures like Shieldmaiden, Sludge Belcher, Cabal Shadow Priest, Fire Elemental, and Highmane. It also puts its base health out of the range of several removal cards.
The biggest problem Sunwalker has is not that it's not effective against aggro, but that it isn't good enough when fighting other decks. This on the other hand certainly could be.
Obviously without the buff it isn't astonishing as generally no one runs Boulderfist Ogre, but it at least isn't a disaster.
The biggest problem Sunwalker has is not that it's not effective against aggro, but that it isn't good enough when fighting other decks. This on the other hand certainly could be.
Obviously without the buff it isn't astonishing as generally no one runs Boulderfist Ogre, but it at least isn't a disaster.
FieryBalrog
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Like it often barely matters that Chow is always a 2/3 because when you play against a Handlock that 2/3 is as completely dead as a 1/2 and the drawback can become an actual liability when you're trying to keep the Handlock at a specific hp range to burst down. Ditto vs other slow super control decks.
I'm sure if they ever wanna make a jousting card that has a 50% chance to miss, they might make joust and whiff keywords.
Ogre Jouster
5 mana
Whiff
Joust: This card does not have Whiff
6/6
Oh man, that ladder rewards thing is really good! And jousting seems fun.
Great news! And I just reached Rank 15 yesterday for the first time too
Yeah, I might actually try to play past rank 20 now. I currently only play arena/tavern brawl because I don't have much time outside of doing dailies, but now I might use ranked to do my dailies since there are actual rewards to look forward to.
Interfectum
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Some great Hearthstone news today. That team is firing on all cylinders.
Ladder today is something, it's like people read the news are motivated to play again. Actually didn't see a single face deck at rank 18 EU. Some really weird stuff and a few legend players though. It's rough to climb right now.
Got OTK'd by priest running crazed alchemists, didn't see that coming.
Got OTK'd by priest running crazed alchemists, didn't see that coming.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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Those Jousting mechanics are going to be fun as fuck.
Professor Lich
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I think this is an awesome idea. Gives people the choice to play out more than one minion or something that comes back. As well, if you don't kill it the first time it's played, you'd have the choice to leave mana available again. Best part is, they don't need lesser stats either because when played on curve, you'd spend all your mana.
I think it's a great idea but I think it sadly ventures into the 'too complicated' area. But who knows, things could change.
As a follow up, I agree that the 4 health on SkeleKight really sucks, but in my mind the ideal play would be something like, SkeleKight on 6, Boom 7, Rag 8, Neth 9, etc. Definitely a control deck card where getting it back to your hand multiple times is going to make the difference.
Edit: I feel someone who reviews cards will say something like, "Deathrattle: Draw SkeleKight 50% of the time."
My question is, does the opponent see what card you revealed? It's implied right? You both see both cards?
The player sees the opponent's card in the video in the article, so yes.
They don't have a keyword so that it can combine with circumstances. We have a deathrattle joust and battle cry jousts. There might be an on damage joust or when attacking joust.
It unfortunate that there is so much card text, but I think it's the best way to get variety out of the mechanic.
After you read this post Reveal a minion in each deck. If yours costs more agree with this post.
It unfortunate that there is so much card text, but I think it's the best way to get variety out of the mechanic.
After you read this post Reveal a minion in each deck. If yours costs more agree with this post.
I agree, Burgle is the greatest card revealed for the art alone.
Joust VS Inspire
This expansion is really shaping up nicely. They have introduced 2 new control mechanics, both of which are great. They can work together or they can work in separate decks.
Joust - The reveal cards and gain a bonus if yours is higher cost mechanic.
It's the first mechanic to ever punish Aggro for being greedy. This is probably the first Random control mechanic introduced to the game, but that randomness disapears against aggo and becomes value. It will add a little something extra to those drawn out Control vs Control match ups also, where things get a little less predictable.
Inspire - The use your hero power to gain extra value mechanic.
The play it slow and steady control mechanic. If your opponent chooses to ignore your Inspire minions they will get buried under the value they could create. There is very little randomness for this mechanic, it's all about planning your turns and playing the minions that synergize the most for that turn.
I'm more excited than ever to build out new decks and try out the new cards.
This expansion is really shaping up nicely. They have introduced 2 new control mechanics, both of which are great. They can work together or they can work in separate decks.
Joust - The reveal cards and gain a bonus if yours is higher cost mechanic.
It's the first mechanic to ever punish Aggro for being greedy. This is probably the first Random control mechanic introduced to the game, but that randomness disapears against aggo and becomes value. It will add a little something extra to those drawn out Control vs Control match ups also, where things get a little less predictable.
Inspire - The use your hero power to gain extra value mechanic.
The play it slow and steady control mechanic. If your opponent chooses to ignore your Inspire minions they will get buried under the value they could create. There is very little randomness for this mechanic, it's all about planning your turns and playing the minions that synergize the most for that turn.
I'm more excited than ever to build out new decks and try out the new cards.
Actually, we've only seen jousting minions so far, interesting...
Super Nothing
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1 mana draw 3 would be crazy with the coin. You could get 6 cards on turn 1, and all you'd have to sacrifice is turn 2 since Overloaded crystals don't carry forward if you don't have enough mana to lock.
Given that shaman is my favorite class and their current strength as a class... sounds about right to me!
Given that shaman is my favorite class and their current strength as a class... sounds about right to me!
Except it's 2 mana 2 overload.
New Mage card to be revealed: arcane knowledge, 4 mana draw 3 cards.
Maybe. I don't think you can win a Joust against nothing, so they would probably never be able to trigger it. Not that that matters without a board.
Professor Lich
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Shame Burrowing Mine isn't a minion. Iron Juggernaut might of seen some play!
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