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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Isn't that card strictly better than healing touch? AFAIK health and armor are the same thing for all intents and purposes so this gives you healing touch or +4 attack.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Also don't forget about refreshment vendor. It's a very solid card and heal, even for midrange decks. It probably would have been played already but for healbot.
And then don't forget reno jackson.
Priest has nothing to worry about. That 5 drop, heal for 5 on any character is amazing.
Healing touch can heal a minion, which can be extremely useful for healing your ancient of war, etc.
And then don't forget reno jackson.
Priest has nothing to worry about. That 5 drop, heal for 5 on any character is amazing.
Healing touch can heal a minion, which can be extremely useful for healing your ancient of war, etc.
I mean you can make the argument that HT can heal minions so in some situations it is better, but if we were talking strickly on using the spells on the player, I would take the armor over the healing
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Oh right, thanks, I knew I was forgetting something. I'd still say this card seems way more useful but that's just me.
Honestly it's weird that we still don't have any spells or minions that pierce armor, probably because it'd fuck over Warriors way too hard.
Drakonid Crusher is the only case I can think of where a real heal is better than Armor.
I assume eventually a card will be printed that counters armor though.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Warlock got 3 epics instead of 3 rares? That's a bit odd.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I'd love to shadowcaster that thing for a 1 mana minion removal + buff for cthun.
Love it I'm keen to play a C"Then deck I prefer to mess around with the fun gimmicky decks anyway.
toddhunter
Member
So, we have seen all the cards.
There are some interesting things but I think it comes down to one question "does c'thun work?"
If so, Rogue is actually still in the game (shadowstep buffing and that 1/1 copy dude). Classes like Shaman will also get a chance to shine by nature of things being mixed up.
If not, freeze mage + control warrior + aggro and business as usual, constructed is dead.
Wild will be a giant bag of bullshit.
Arena will have mage be dominant again, but otherwise will be fine.
So will c'thun decks work? I'm optimistic because of Brann. Incidentally this is why it can't be given stealth!
There are some interesting things but I think it comes down to one question "does c'thun work?"
If so, Rogue is actually still in the game (shadowstep buffing and that 1/1 copy dude). Classes like Shaman will also get a chance to shine by nature of things being mixed up.
If not, freeze mage + control warrior + aggro and business as usual, constructed is dead.
Wild will be a giant bag of bullshit.
Arena will have mage be dominant again, but otherwise will be fine.
So will c'thun decks work? I'm optimistic because of Brann. Incidentally this is why it can't be given stealth!
BananasWithGuns
Member
Finally got a chance to go through all the cards.
I actually think all the classes made out at least moderately well. Warlock, Warrior and Paladin are probably the bottom three this set. Shaman, Mage and Hunter I'd put at the top.
I'm really impressed with WOG though. I think Blizzard has done a really great job in walking the line between making usable/worthwhile cards without them being completely overpowered. I can't wait to see how things shake out over the next couple months.
I actually think all the classes made out at least moderately well. Warlock, Warrior and Paladin are probably the bottom three this set. Shaman, Mage and Hunter I'd put at the top.
I'm really impressed with WOG though. I think Blizzard has done a really great job in walking the line between making usable/worthwhile cards without them being completely overpowered. I can't wait to see how things shake out over the next couple months.
I mean we can't say anything for certain till the meta settles, but from what they've shown, yes a cthun deck does seem to have the necessary parts to work. It does seem him being the one that's is being given to everyone, they really focused on making him usable by anyone, from new to old players
MrAstronaut
Member
So that release stream was great, but does anyone else feel like C'thun's animation seems a bit weird? The projectiles look like bubbles...Which I guess isn't terrible, but it feels like a weak payoff for buffing this huge minion all game, finally playing it, and then:
pop pop pop pop pop pop
pop pop pop pop pop pop
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I wonder how many cthun buffing cards a cthun deck requires... basically finding the smallest amount. And maybe that class is rogue because blade can buff cthun a ton in a single card.
Priest hero power is pretty dope in a Grim Patron deck. Trade to make a new Patron and then heal it up.
I thought in the original reveal that his projectiles looked more powerful and cool. Did they change something or am I remembering wrong.
Karsticles
Member
No joke. I guess people are done with the game until next week? lol
I don't understand how it's even possible, maybe it's because every match takes 2 hours.
MrAstronaut
Member
I never saw the original reveal but going back it doesn't look like much is different. Still seems pretty low-impact to me, but that might be due to the speed at which the animation plays.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Apparently some people think Flamewreathed Faceless is broken? I'm having trouble seeing that. I think I'd rather play Fireguard Destroyer in most situations.
I mean, why restrict the player? Maybe there is a case where you really need to play a spell for some effect, and the only undamaged target is your own face.
I think I'd rather have Flamewreathed. 1 more overload, for a guaranteed statline. Plus, Shaman now has 2 tools to get rid of Overload.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
How does it work with Druid of the Flame or Living Roots? I am curious as well
Druid of the Flame: It becomes a 5/5.
Living Roots: 2 Damage to target, and summon 2 1/1s.
BananasWithGuns
Member
On the stream Brode said it goes in order of card text. So like Keeper of the Grove would do 2 damage to something first and then silence something after.
Cards that transform (Druid of the Flame, Claw, etc) have a special third transformation when used with Fandral.
2 overload is pretty rough, but they also added Eternal Sentinel so that you have a better shot at a semi-normal turn 5 (though no Doomhammer).
21 minutes and counting in Brawl queue on mobile. I think it's busted.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
If rogue had a scalable card to work with a token like deck, they'd be pretty good for using violet teacher to snowball games. Unfortunately they are all neutral minions and quite underwhelming and a bit too slow. Something like this would be pretty damn good.
http://s31.postimg.org/mp7y3lmbf/rogue_wog_1.png
http://s31.postimg.org/mp7y3lmbf/rogue_wog_1.png
Dr.Horrible
Member
Millhouse is pretty worthless, right? I've got a a golden one that I doubt will see play and want to dump it for some dust.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
It'll always be useless, get dat dust.
If you play it on 4, it's ridiculously strong.
Dr.Horrible
Member
Lol at the video.
I figured there wasn't much redeeming about it. Thanks.
A bit lackluster yeah.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I'm not so sure. A pile of stats can look good/intimidating but it rarely works out that way since most classes have a fairly reliable way of dealing with a big minion by turn 4.
I think in a vast majority of situations a 7/6, 6/6 or even 5/6 with overload (1) is better than a 7/7 with overload (2).
FiveSix4Three
Member
Can't wait to try control/mill rogue hybrid with c'thun and yogg. Probably going to be shit, but will be fun.
That play is going to be so common in the first few weeks it might not even qualify as a Trolden highlight.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Let's be real
We're probably getting a 90 minute long video just on Yogg saron every week.
We're probably getting a 90 minute long video just on Yogg saron every week.
Man there was a lot of great stuff in the stream today. I'm still processing it all. There's no doubt that shaman is gonna be really strong, just from a value point of view. Gonna be a while to catch up on this thread.
But! I just wanted to point out this art.
Sure, okay, it's clearly alittle davey jones action right? That's pretty fun and all. But zoom in on that parrot.
Tentacle beak.... AND a little bandanna.
Astonishing.
But! I just wanted to point out this art.
Sure, okay, it's clearly alittle davey jones action right? That's pretty fun and all. But zoom in on that parrot.
Tentacle beak.... AND a little bandanna.
Astonishing.
Professor Lich
Member
Yeah, the art for this expansion is pretty amazing. You can see more cards here at this Facebook link. They also show some uncollectible cards.
Here's some others I thought were pretty great.
Edit: Also, did we somehow miss this card?
Double Edit: Not as good as I thought it was. It's only one minion, not all minions.
