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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
- Thread starter ZealousD
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possibly, although i wish at least one of the gods did something with madness
Yeah there is still some hope.
Sure, but just compare the effect to something like C'thun. When you play C'thun for ten mana, on average when you play it, you'll have like a 14/14 body that immediately deals 14 points of (yeah, random) distributed damage to the enemy board and keeps what you can actually put on the board much more flexible. If you're using N'Zoth to summon a bunch of Dreadsteeds, at most you're going to get 11/13 worth of stats that doesn't immediately do anything and the flexibility of Dreadsteed matters a lot less by the time you're playing cards like N'Zoth in the first place.
The problem with using N'Zoth as a finisher in a Dreadsteed deck to me just seems like a square peg in a round hole sort of thing. Against the types of decks that you expect to make it to turn 10 against, a board flooded with 1/1s doesn't really do much. Against something like Warrior especially it seems awful.
I think N'Zoth can definitely be playable, especially if there's more powerful Deathrattle minions in the set (there should be), but I don't think the Dreadlock archetype is a good fit for it.
Would prefer to see a legendary that reads like 'resummon demons that died this turn and give all demons +2/+2'.
God I loved this response.
Does this Youtube channel go over all of the Hearthstone card's backgrounds and lore? I would love to subscribe to it, if it gives me more story.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
When I have played against dreadsteed decks as control, the 1/1s stop you from ever really taking control of the board. It's was often a slow but certain death.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Only a few, for important characters like Y'sjaarj. There are other channels that go over it.
Well that's just the official site, I think they are partially spotlighting the actual person that does these lore on cards. This is the playlist you'd be interest in https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh8hWL75qW6oxfl3QtzKDxgcE4Ecjwzdz
Karsticles
Member
I think it depends on how something like C'Thun interacts with Dreadsteeds. Does it respawn a Dreadsteed for targetting when it dies? Then N'Zoth + Dreadsteed counters C'thun.
Amazing response.
Kill it dead. It was "ok" when aggressive paladins were so shitty they needed that leg up, but with actual quality cards it's just stupid.
Make it a secret? When your hero takes damage, draw cards to equal your opponents hand. So the opposing player gets to decide how many cards you get?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
There is also a dude called Lorestalker that posts in the Daily Card discussion threads on /r/hearthstone who does a pretty good job at giving a rundown of cards, even ones that are hardly important. But he will write a ton on something like Illidan, Alexstrasza etc
I don't have much experience in the match-up, so I'll largely concede the point. It just seems to me that the finisher loses pretty badly to something like Control Warrior when they can remove N'Zoth from the board pretty efficiently and a Justicar'd hero power blunts most of the pressure of the 1/1s. When a game is at that point, cost-reduced Jarraxus and the spawn 6/6 hero power plus weapon seems much stronger.
That's a good point that I hadn't thought of, actually.
Ehhh. That's a lot of power for 1 mana, and doesn't really solve the problem that you force your opponent to dump their hand to counter it, which is hard for certain decks to do and often pretty sub-optimal for the game-plans of some decks, especially ones that want to hang onto a lot of cards for synergies.
edit: In hindsight, actually, this isn't that bad of a change since it'd be awful to play this card early and it'd be easy enough to check for (unless they're hit by random damage, lol) but in the situation where you hit your opponent and lose the game because they start the next turn with like five extra cards and all of their mana it'd feel even shittier.
No. Death Processing will occur at the end of C'thun's battlecry phase. None of the dreadsteeds will actually "die" until C'thun fires its final missile. So at best your dreadsteeds will eat 6 missiles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nRRhkd-28g#t=33s
markofhavoc
Member
Really Arena?
clearly you picked the best legendary every....lorewalker cho
SonicXtreme
Member
feugen is a pretty solid 5 drop for arena doe
Gotta make this a Cho Show.
markofhavoc
Member
Thats who I picked, it has a nice body, but I like that it listed them both together, and then threw in cho. Also Cho Show is probably my favorite thing I heard today.
I keep losing to everyone in online ranked, even players ranked lower than me.
Somebody have to watch how I play on my live stream, and help me out.
well tell us what happens, we can try to help. give us a scenario, paint us a word picture.
Dr.Horrible
Member
I keep losing to everyone in online ranked, even players ranked lower than me.
Somebody have to watch how I play on my live stream, and help me out.
What region? Post your ID and I'm sure someone much better at this game can offer tips.
LucidMomentum
Member
First loss to a Murloc Paladin today.
That deck is something else, really.
That deck is something else, really.
I keep losing to everyone in online ranked, even players ranked lower than me.
Somebody have to watch how I play on my live stream, and help me out.
What rank? What deck are you using? Depending on your rank I'm sure tons of us can offer advice.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Aaaaaand rank 5 this month as well.
19 -> 5 in 3 ½ hours. Previous month 4 hours and the month before that 5 hours.
People getting worse or casuls having a harder time than usual with secret shitadin?
19 -> 5 in 3 ½ hours. Previous month 4 hours and the month before that 5 hours.
People getting worse or casuls having a harder time than usual with secret shitadin?
I feel so helpless against murlocs pally, as a control priest I can only hope to entomb bluegill or old murk-eye (dead cards in my deck) that or get lucky with thoughtsteal anyfin...
A lot of people probably are also exhausted with the ranking right now, so maybe different quality of players?
Dr.Horrible
Member
Haha, finally beat one myself. Counterspell on Anyfin is fucking glorious.
Do you know roughly how much gold/dust you have? How many packs have you won/purchased?
post your deck
when I at this rank few month ago I thinking stupid shit like thought Dragonling mechanic better than Yeti
When I start 2nd account last month I have no trouble again getting to rank 20 at first day
This might be helpful, simply to see if off the bat you're picking bad cards that you might think are good. Unless you mean you are literally playing the basic mage deck that blizzard makes for you
Never get offered Legendary Minions in Arena.
Pick Paladin after avoiding the class for weeks.
Get 3 legendaries.
I'd trade Eadric for a Consecration any day of the week. ;/
Picked Tirion over Onyxia and Mogor the Ogre.
Picked Loatheb over Mogor and Nozdormu
Picked Eadric over Millhouse and Rafaam. (only legendary pick I was unsure of)
Pick Paladin after avoiding the class for weeks.
Get 3 legendaries.
I'd trade Eadric for a Consecration any day of the week. ;/
Picked Tirion over Onyxia and Mogor the Ogre.
Picked Loatheb over Mogor and Nozdormu
Picked Eadric over Millhouse and Rafaam. (only legendary pick I was unsure of)
New card:
Apparently the text translates to "Double this minion's Attack at the start of your turn."
Yeah, master of disguise *HAS* to be nerfed then.
Otherwise this + 2 cold blood + master of disguise = win.
Hell, that seems solid with just cold blood. You immediately have a 12/8 on your next turn, which is sick.
Or seal of champions. Hmm... Looks fun.
Officerrob
Banned
New card:
Apparently the text translates to "Double this minion's Attack at the start of your turn."
Priest will Cabal the shit out of that
LyleLanley
Banned
It's only 6 mana though, you probably shouldn't be playing it by itself against a priest.
That's probably why it'll only get played in buffing decks, I think. If it gets played at all. I like the design a lot, I hope it makes it into some decks.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Seems pretty good to me. Better than Volcanic Drake I think and it demands an answer within the first couple turns or it's going to spiral out of control big time.
New card:
Apparently the text translates to "Double this minion's Attack at the start of your turn."
This sound dope
not even legendary? sheitttttt
8 health is pretty beefy. Puts it out of range of most burn spells. You'll need some form of hard removal to clear it. Obviously Cabal would be worst case scenario, but it's susceptible to Kodo too. Not much else can deal with it though.
Seems like a really good fit in Dragon Priest. The deck lacked a really strong 6-drop.
Seems like a really good fit in Dragon Priest. The deck lacked a really strong 6-drop.