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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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Casual is a death trap in this game.
Any time i see a councilman, he needs to die asap
Whatever your thoughts on the meta so far, you can't deny that the power level has dropped enough for nerfed Miracle and nerfed Patron to remain viable. Whether that that stays the same throughout the expansion is anyone's guess but I don't think these decks are disappearing soon.
The atmosphere is just much less tense than it used to be and there's room for non-curve strategies. The big outlier here is Aggro Shaman, and I think Miracle and Patron can both deal with it.
Diet Patron also looks pretty interesting. I only have one Blood to Ichor though. I might craft another to test it. I've been sleeping on Bloodhoof Braves but I liked what I saw.
The atmosphere is just much less tense than it used to be and there's room for non-curve strategies. The big outlier here is Aggro Shaman, and I think Miracle and Patron can both deal with it.
Diet Patron also looks pretty interesting. I only have one Blood to Ichor though. I might craft another to test it. I've been sleeping on Bloodhoof Braves but I liked what I saw.
Such a stupid card.
Karsticles
Member
I played a game just now as mage and thanks to Cabalist tome I must've casted about 20 spells.
Played Yogg.
Every single card benefitted me. I couldn't believe it, but my Khadgar was up to 15 attack that turn and it let me kill the enemy warrior. All the other cards buffed my minions hahaha.
Played Yogg.
Every single card benefitted me. I couldn't believe it, but my Khadgar was up to 15 attack that turn and it let me kill the enemy warrior. All the other cards buffed my minions hahaha.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
was stuck at rank 1 with miracle, I said f it, let's play some shaman again. 5 games and 5 wins later, yay first standard legend.
This was my easiest legend yet, like even secret paly isn't this easy as it is now with shaman.
14/500 lol. I think the other 9 were for the standard quest. I've never played shaman on this account but my packs gave me full set of WoG shaman cards, might as well.
This was a totem deck which is really strong, I fatigued out the c'thun warrior that had PERFECT curve, like everything, Dr. 7 right on 7. He even had Elise. It's similar to the list MrYagut is playing right now but I play Harrison instead of a second master of evo.
I've been legend for 3 months this year, only missed it last month. I should play less HS. Actually I barely played this month before WoG release, I was playing DS3.
Can a brotha get a deck list?
Is zoo that good? It's like nowhere as powerful as egg zoo of before. If they lose board once it's over. It's not really unfair or anything, their minions are not exactly sticky anymore.
it's this. I think you can play Dr. 4 still. I didn't, the 5/5 taunt is very strong.
Can a brotha get a deck list?
it's this. I think you can play Dr. 4 still. I didn't, the 5/5 taunt is very strong.
I've only played a handful of games in the new meta, but Zoo is still pretty good.
Imp gang boss is still awesome. Forbidden ritual + knife juggler(s) = ultra cheese. Darkshire councilman has proven to be a stud
Karsticles
Member
Has anyone tried Squirming Tentacle out? 2/4 for 3 isn't bad; power creep on Silverback Patriarch.
Yeah, I have found it very manageable. Easier than before. I think people are just coping with not having the tools they are used to. Lots of complaining about stuff being OP while we're all trying to figure this out.
Been messing around with a Deathrattle Hunter deck. I'm having a lot of fun with it, getting a 50/50 win rate so I know it needs work. I'm not good at creating decks and didn't netdeck this so I could definitely use some advice.
NOT PICTURED: Hunters Mark (1)/ On the Hunt (1)/ Firey Bat (1)
The cards I kind of just threw in here to try and plug holes are:
Sunfury protector (Early taunt against aggro)
Cult Master (Card draw)
Explosive Shot (Sort of AOE clear)
When the deck works, I find that it really works, but I run into card draw issues if I don't get set up with Cult Master and my curve gets janky. Usually when I lose, I lose badly. I'm trying to stay away from net decks with this expansion and tinker as I go along, so any organic advice is really appreciated for what I can cut and replace.
NOT PICTURED: Hunters Mark (1)/ On the Hunt (1)/ Firey Bat (1)
The cards I kind of just threw in here to try and plug holes are:
Sunfury protector (Early taunt against aggro)
Cult Master (Card draw)
Explosive Shot (Sort of AOE clear)
When the deck works, I find that it really works, but I run into card draw issues if I don't get set up with Cult Master and my curve gets janky. Usually when I lose, I lose badly. I'm trying to stay away from net decks with this expansion and tinker as I go along, so any organic advice is really appreciated for what I can cut and replace.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
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it's this. I think you can play Dr. 4 still. I didn't, the 5/5 taunt is very strong.
Thank you! You are awesome! <³ <³
Can we stop with this yet? The doctor is dead. And I have no clue what card you're talking about.
Can't disagree with this, the one clear mistake so far was printing Faceless whatever. Giving the strongest aggro deck a strictly better Fel Reaver alongside the (otherwise solid) BGH is just incredibly tone-deaf.
On second thought I disagree with Miracle dealing with Aggro Shaman, it's not an unwinnable matchup but still well below 50/50 imo.
Karsticles
Member
Get rid of the cards you threw in there. Double up on the bats and infested wolf.Been messing around with a Deathrattle Hunter deck. I'm having a lot of fun with it, getting a 50/50 win rate so I know it needs work. I'm not good at creating decks and didn't netdeck this so I could definitely use some advice.
NOT PICTURED: Hunters Mark (1)/ On the Hunt (1)/ Firey Bat (1)
The cards I kind of just threw in here to try and plug holes are:
Sunfury protector (Early taunt against aggro)
Cult Master (Card draw)
Explosive Shot (Sort of AOE clear)
When the deck works, I find that it really works, but I run into card draw issues if I don't get set up with Cult Master and my curve gets janky. Usually when I lose, I lose badly. I'm trying to stay away from net decks with this expansion and tinker as I go along, so any organic advice is really appreciated for what I can cut and replace.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Look at this disgusting hand
Don't forget that I also played Tirion.
This is in arena btw
Don't forget that I also played Tirion.
I admit that was just theorycraft. I haven't actually played Miracle yet so I'll take your word for it.
If Blizzard nerfs anything within the next 6 months, it's probably Flamewreath Faceless. Either 6/6 or 5/6 Overload 1.
I mean, they did it. They finally made Overload good, and now it's just unfair.
Indeed. Especially because it is ALWAYS in their opening hand.
At least Councilman is a card you send back most of the time.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Wouldn't that just turn it into Fireguard Destroyer? I'd rather see 5 mana cost (2) overload.
poppedcollar69
Member
gjasbdhjsfa haha i made a miracle yogg saron rogue deck and i played him with brann and i literally summoned 17 1/1 tokens and killed most of them too
i havent seen him cast nukes on the casters own face yet, is that actually possible?
i havent seen him cast nukes on the casters own face yet, is that actually possible?
-1 On the Hunt (doesn't do enough to justify running it)
-1 Carrion Grub (with no Houndmaster this card doesn't really do anything)
-1 Infested Tauren (not as good as Wolf)
-1 Explosive Shot (too expensive)
+1 Fiery Bat (early game reliability)
+1 Infested Wolf (almost as good as Shredder)
+1 Call of the Wild (card is too good not to run two-of)
+1 Forlorn Stalker (more buffs for you late game deathrattle minions)
I should note, I'm not entirely sold on Forlorn Stalker. But it's worth experimenting with 2 of them, see how they feel. The body just dies so easily and its text might be too difficult to get good value out of it. But the other changes should help improve your consistency, I think.
Hm, you're right. 5 mana is also reasonable. Right now you can do really stupid stuff with the Overload staggering like
T1: Tunnel Trogg
T2: Totem Golem
T3: Totem
T4: Fireguard
T5: Flamewreathed
Or
T1: Tunnel Trogg
T2: Coin, Spirit Wolves
T3: Pass, or Lightning Bolt or Rockbiter or another Trogg
T4-T5: As above
Spirit Wolves keep Trogg safe from weapons and minions while buffing it. By the time they break down the Wolves it's a 4/3 or a 6/3.
That T4-T5 crushed a lot of people I faced, especially if I got a good roll on Fireguard. The best part is Fireguard serves as removal magnet so it makes Flamewreathed safer to play.
Shamans will follow you everywhere,even other matchups.
"That's incredible!"
"Wow!"
Doesn't Fireguard have OL 1? ; )
Warlock used that on me, got Paladin.
Used "give +1+1" put down a stranglethorn tiger, used seal of champions and then hand of protection. Countering me perfectly throughout. I was gobsmacked.
Played him again immediate after, he got Druid and I stomped him
LucidMomentum
Member
Yeah definitely. It's super viable, and until I get / craft Elemental Destruction I have to deal with lesser board clears.
I've been having success with lightning storm / lightning bolt, trading minions / minion health, and then playing sentinel to unlock my mana if needed or just using evolve for one mana to "heal" minions with the evolution.
Hallazeal would be a nice way to get some health out of it, but I don't see it being reliable.
Yeah, it's super strong really. Only downside is the low mana cost does make it a bit of a trade when you evolve it, but I find myself using evolve as a pseudo-heal / fakeout to confuse people about how to play their next turn.
Yeah, this is how I usually end up playing it.
If they can't clear the board they're forced to use removal spells (Mage used both ice blasts and a polymorph to remove my Trogg and Spirit Wolves), and at that point you can just play out your curve with the odd mana unlock and / or evolution.
This makes no sense, that's basically what Fireguard Destroyer is.
Faceless should be a 7/6 based on the fact that it's technically a 6 mana minion like Boulder Fist Ogre. Same thing as Totem Golem or Fireguard.
You kinda have to keep it at 7 attack so that you can at least BGH it.
BGH is a trap in my current experience. I never saw it do anything of note to me. I've done 14 damage far more times with an unchallenged Faceless than I got BGH'd and lost because of it. I just Lava Shock or trade and move on with my day. When everyone starts running BGH that calculus might change but for the present time he's a non-issue.
Karsticles
Member
How do Lightwell and Auchenai Priest interact?
Yet. Give it like 2 weeks.
TetraxShards
Member
Baiting out Shadow Word Deaths and then dropping Flamewreathed Faceless one after the other feels so good.
Is this what it's like to fall to the dark side?
Is this what it's like to fall to the dark side?
Hot damn that discover card for paladin is great. Discovering a Tirion (who is now 7/7 cuz balance), getting him BGH'd and then playing my real Tirion is the best. Also hearing LIVE, INSECT is never ever going to get old.
Also paladin has quite a lot of Card draw available if you run Lay on Hands (great for stabliizing), and even more if you run Solemn Vow. You can really burn through your deck into fatigue quite quickly.
Also paladin has quite a lot of Card draw available if you run Lay on Hands (great for stabliizing), and even more if you run Solemn Vow. You can really burn through your deck into fatigue quite quickly.
Xamtheking
Member
The worst way
It does damage so it's a bad idea.
Priest since they got squat outside of neutrals.
Karsticles
Member
Also, there is no doubt in my mind that Priests got the worst legendary this set. Piece of trash.
lol. I always save SW
for those. I was hoping Auchenai only affected player-sourced damage.I love the idea of Lightwell, but it's so bad.
TetraxShards
Member
I played a Giants/Token mix Paladin deck the last few weeks of the old format and really enjoyed it. You could play Muster, then drop a Cult Master or a Sea Giant if you have board already, clear with your dudes and then play Vigil for almost nothing.
Which neutral four drop are you expecting to take over? C'Thun's Chosen?
