LyleLanley
Banned
Just got a Cabalist's tome that came out of a Cabalist's tome that itself came out of a Cabalist's tome.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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i actually have it but taking the effort to build a deck around it, play it and have it die is something i'm too lazy for
LucidMomentum
Member
Hmm, I'd have to dust nearly all of my golds to make it happen. Not sure how I feel about that.
*EDIT* Only missing the legendary from the pirate quest. Go figure. Yeah, not using 3k dust for two cards that aren't really decks I want to use.
We have to go deeper.
call_kotaku
Member
losing shieldmaiden and death's bite really hurt warrior more than I thought. Sucks that the new shieldmaiden is tied to c'thun decks. Gorehowl is doing work in this meta, though.
Yeah, using him in an astral communion deck. Also have Soggoth(the giant taunt you can't target) which fits right in.
slightconfuse
Banned
Second one has worked pretty well for me
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Druid Y'shaarj has been my main since release.
Unfortunately it's become a lot harder since C'thun became less popular and people started playing the actual tier one decks of aggro shaman, midrange shaman, zoolock, and tempo mage.
Yuuuup, noticing that for sure. The deck is damn good against C'thun classes but it gets steamrolled by aggro.
I'm also seeing a lot of Rogue and both deathrattle and miracle are problems. Sap just gives you no chance.
Karsticles
Member
That moment when you Thoughtsteal a Cabalist's Tome. :-D
Anyone else play on a mac book pro.
For the last year after an hour of play the game freezes with rainbow textures. There is a long thread on the Blizzard forum about this.
Just lost a match because of it. You can't even quit the game fast enough to get back in. The whole window freezes. I'd probably be better off playing in a VM.
Blizzard get your shit together. This has been going on for a while and they haven't addressed it.
For the last year after an hour of play the game freezes with rainbow textures. There is a long thread on the Blizzard forum about this.
Just lost a match because of it. You can't even quit the game fast enough to get back in. The whole window freezes. I'd probably be better off playing in a VM.
Blizzard get your shit together. This has been going on for a while and they haven't addressed it.
I like how I'm 11-2 against warlock with my current version of Renounce Darkness deck.
You can see the stats of the current version here:
http://hss.io/decks/fuck-you-darkness?locale=en&version=1.3
Anyone have an idea for another card to take Possed Villager's spot? Its sort of dead weight.
You can see the stats of the current version here:
http://hss.io/decks/fuck-you-darkness?locale=en&version=1.3
Anyone have an idea for another card to take Possed Villager's spot? Its sort of dead weight.
Karsticles
Member
HAHAHAHAHA, it happened! A guy killed himself with Yogg-Sauran. He had 3 health left, and it went:
Explorer's Hat
Power Word: Tentacles
Healing Wave (target: his hero)
Hellfire
Then he died! Apparently the Healing Wave won't activate until the series of spells is done, but damage is calculated immediately.
Rest in peace, Tempo Mage!
Also, Cabalist's Tome is particularly interesting because you can't play around anything. Even though I waited for 2 Polymorphs before I dropped Ragnaros, he had a third waiting!
Explorer's Hat
Power Word: Tentacles
Healing Wave (target: his hero)
Hellfire
Then he died! Apparently the Healing Wave won't activate until the series of spells is done, but damage is calculated immediately.
Rest in peace, Tempo Mage!
Also, Cabalist's Tome is particularly interesting because you can't play around anything. Even though I waited for 2 Polymorphs before I dropped Ragnaros, he had a third waiting!
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Anyone know the list of the pirate warrior dog is playing right now? I need some inspiration.
Seems like it has to be a, everything should go in sequence, even healing
slightconfuse
Banned
Lmao Kripp just played an astral Druid that got C'thun on turn 2.
Would love to try the deck out. Need some more legends dies/big minions
Would love to try the deck out. Need some more legends dies/big minions
Healing Wave is a Joust.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Spent all the dust i've ever made on Yogg Sarron and it kills itself. Great card.
BananasWithGuns
Member
You shouldn't have done that. Yogg is pretty much useless most of the time lol.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Winning as Renounce Darkness Warlock without actually drawing Renounce Darkness is a very strange feeling.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
My decklist
I haven't really had many problems with Rogue at all. Rogues don't start up until turn 3 or 4 and this deck is extremely powerful turn 5 on, unless they teched in both BGH and Black Knight. Naga or Aviana + Y'Shaarj + Random usually big taunt is really hard to beat.
Yep. What deck list do you run?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
16-3 with this so far:
http://i.imgur.com/g6TKXvO.png
http://i.imgur.com/g6TKXvO.png
Karsticles
Member
It didn't, though. He was at 3 health, Healing Wave went off, and I let a deep sigh because I had lethal and lost it. Then Hellfire went off and he died.
Yeah, but Healing Wave still happened before Hellfire.
We would have advised you otherwise.
That's a lot of legendaries!
LucidMomentum
Member
Anyways, my Evo Shaman deck really falls apart if I stray from curve. Like, having to burn Feral Spirits early or not getting Lightning Storm, etc.
But, I did get a charge minion off Evolve for lethal one game, and then the next game I hit a Mounted Raptor only for it to spawn a minion that kills anything it attacks, so I lose my taunt and then the game.
I'm at about 10-5 with this deck, pretty pleased but it has it's shortcomings for sure.
Actually come to think of it Reno had a hand in 3 out of those 5 losses.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Pretty much just Zoo with Yogg-Saron. I'm probably going to change it up though, add in more neutral card draw like Azure Drake and what not.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
So I give up, and am finally building a Shaman deck, and wow, now I understand why most Shamans aren't running Hallazeal. There's just so many good cards and only so many great cards you can fit in one deck.
I still can't believe how many great cards Shaman got this expansion. Apparently blizzard really didn't want to chance shaman being underpowered again.
I still can't believe how many great cards Shaman got this expansion. Apparently blizzard really didn't want to chance shaman being underpowered again.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I never noticed. Yeah, I guess 7 is a lot, but then again it is control paladin.
I think the only card they misstepped in the entire set (so far) is that 4 mana 7/7. It's just a bit above the power curve. I mean, earth elemental is 1 mana 1 overload more and only gets 1 hp and taunt. They basically just gave aggro shaman (and midrange cause it's great in there too) a mountain giant as if they were handlock.
I think it's a weird part of how Joust is programmed, like it's a Battlecry effect so it needs to wait for the first to resolve before activating even if it's technically a spell.
Karsticles
Member
That's a good analogy.
And on that note, has anyone faced even a single Handlock? It'll be ridiculous if Blizzard killed an entire deck archetype with their incompetence.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I guess it depends what kind of deck you want to build. Hallazeal is really freaking good in a control Shaman deck which I think is pretty close to being viable. With less BGH around and once people move away from The Black Knight a bit Earth Elementals should wreck a lot of havoc for once.
Deathrattle Rogue is really, really easy to play compared with the old Oil or Malygos archetypes. It leaves it to your opponent to try and play around all of the nonsense you put on the board. There's not much combo fuss and you don't have to worry about using damage for removal that you will need later for burst.
Karsticles
Member
Unless BGH sticks around and more people play The Black Knight.
Even so, Control Shaman kind of lacks a win condition. I didn't want to believe it, but I think there's no reason to play Control Shaman over Control Priest. Right now I am glad I only burnt 2000 dust on Doomhammers, a Charged Hammer, and various little tidbits here and there instead of going all-in on Hallazeal. At least Ragnaros is good in a lot of decks.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I played handlock before the nerfs. And I've played reno warlock and cthun warlock. Slow handlock decks are far from dead I think. They tend to take refinement from top players and then suddenly half the meta is warlock.
Karsticles
Member
Cool, glad to hear it.
Those +10 HP and +10 Armor C'Thun cards are fantastic. Pretty much OP. Priest got some legit good cards with this expansion, though their best new card requires you to play a C'Thun Deck. Warrior is in similar shape, pirate warrior is cute but I don't think its strong enough.
Been fooling around with Divine Shield aggro Paladin. Adding Selfless Hero, Steward and Rally Blade really helps to keep Shields up to keep someone fat alive or to drop Blood Knight. Deck is badly in need of a 2-drop with DS though, the lack of Minibot really hurts the curve. Argent Protector doesn't usually need to hit that turn, Knife Juggler is still the best so far.
Yeah I think I have to agree that shaman needs tuning. It's not that a 4-mana 7/7 is too op as a class card (still weak compared to MC for example), but more that many classes lost key removals and AoE so the constant barrage of midrange beefies is too much for the meta to handle. Super aggressive face decks are also gone so Shaman isn't punished enough for not playing heals.
They also retained one of the few easy ways to close out a game, Doomhammer+Rockbiter
They also retained one of the few easy ways to close out a game, Doomhammer+Rockbiter
IMO, best 2 drop for that deck is Bilefin. It gives a shit ton of value if Darkshire is up.
My version only ran a single blood knight, as an alternative win condition. Here is the deck I was running the first day of the expanion:
http://hss.io/d/9365482
Yeah I was looking at Bilefin or maybe Worgen. There's plenty of 2-drops that love Darkshire up but nothing great to drop on turn two without the coin. I'm not running any Murlocs though, straight DS, might try them.
Brann with the +10 armor card is disgusting.
Karsticles
Member
I died at 20 health from an empty board from Doomhammer + 2x Rockbiter + Lava. It hurt real bad.
Also good with the +10 health Priest card. Zero reason to play Reno Shadow Priest anymore.
The old Piloted Shredder screw over.
Karsticles
Member
I think this is what I am setting on for my Shadowpriest deck, though I'm open to feedback:
I didn't even think of Doomsayers until Dahbomb mentioned it, but they've been really great so far. A nice turn 2 anti-aggro drop. The only thing that can stop them as a 2-drop is a silence, so one time a Shaman was able to shut it down. Otherwise, it helps me transition to the mid game to use all of my management tools.
I tried Wild Pyromancer (even crafted two...), but it doesn't kill high health minions very well, the second one I draw never really has a use, and it means I have to run Power Word: Shield, which I'm not fond of in this deck. I don't wish I had more draw through Northshire Cleric or anything else - I've never lost due to too little draw in this deck. I mostly lose due to stupid mistakes. Dumbest error of the night: Entomb Ragnaros the Lightlord. Later, play him while Auchenai Priest is still on the board. Ow.
The only card that's questionable to me is Museum Curator, but I can play him on turn 2 if nothing is going on and get something nice for later, and nothing else really jumps out at me as being needed aside from Velen, which I not sure how to add anyway.
Also, no one suggest going down to one Mind Control. Double Mind Control obliterates all Old God decks. Between 2x Entomb and 2x Mind Control, N'Zoth has nothing worth resurrecting. I take Tirion, Slyvannas, Cairn, etc. After C'Thun spews his shadowballs out, I steal him and have a 16/16+ minion on the board. It's very good against the current meta. I have only lost a handful of long-term matches, and it's always because of a stupid mistake I make.
I tried running Thaurissan, but his one pre-death tick didn't really make a difference in my options. The only real combo in this deck is free.
If I had a card that lowered attack value, I would probably put that in over Museum Curator to combo with Cabal Shadow Priest to extend my stealing capabilities.
I didn't even think of Doomsayers until Dahbomb mentioned it, but they've been really great so far. A nice turn 2 anti-aggro drop. The only thing that can stop them as a 2-drop is a silence, so one time a Shaman was able to shut it down. Otherwise, it helps me transition to the mid game to use all of my management tools.
I tried Wild Pyromancer (even crafted two...), but it doesn't kill high health minions very well, the second one I draw never really has a use, and it means I have to run Power Word: Shield, which I'm not fond of in this deck. I don't wish I had more draw through Northshire Cleric or anything else - I've never lost due to too little draw in this deck. I mostly lose due to stupid mistakes. Dumbest error of the night: Entomb Ragnaros the Lightlord. Later, play him while Auchenai Priest is still on the board. Ow.
The only card that's questionable to me is Museum Curator, but I can play him on turn 2 if nothing is going on and get something nice for later, and nothing else really jumps out at me as being needed aside from Velen, which I not sure how to add anyway.
Also, no one suggest going down to one Mind Control. Double Mind Control obliterates all Old God decks. Between 2x Entomb and 2x Mind Control, N'Zoth has nothing worth resurrecting. I take Tirion, Slyvannas, Cairn, etc. After C'Thun spews his shadowballs out, I steal him and have a 16/16+ minion on the board. It's very good against the current meta. I have only lost a handful of long-term matches, and it's always because of a stupid mistake I make.
I tried running Thaurissan, but his one pre-death tick didn't really make a difference in my options. The only real combo in this deck is free.
If I had a card that lowered attack value, I would probably put that in over Museum Curator to combo with Cabal Shadow Priest to extend my stealing capabilities.
The spirit of Shredder lives on.
Yeah I had great success with a similar deck yesterday. Shadowstep and Xaril work wonders.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I feel like Darkshire Councilman has to be the most overlooked card ever.
I never imagined it would be so insane.
I never imagined it would be so insane.