Infernodash
Member
We have these cards for two years...There's no way blizzard won't nerf some of these overpowered class cards and buff some of the under-powered (priest) ones. Right?
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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Why buff when you can just release a new set that bombards priest with overtuned cards?
thekillermuffin
Member
Anyone have any great success with Ragnaros, Lightlord in any of their pally decks? Trying to find a good (perhaps) control deck to build around him.
Karsticles
Member
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha!
Blizzard is atrocious at balancing this game. They do not give a single crap about underpowered cards, and overpowered cards will only get touched after about 6 months of complaining.
Congratulations, you are the first!
Yeah, someone posted a list about a page back. I've faced 3 Paladins using Lightlord so far. He's my favorite Mind Control target after I go Shadowform. :-D
Yup he's been fantastic for me so far. Single handedly won a game for me when a C'thun priest Mind gamed my Deathwing. Healed me for 16 and set-up lethal.
so weird because it does not work that way in any other instance, why wouldn't it be equal interaction across the board. oh well.
Yeah, shadowcaster, again, better that the shit they gave priests.
Karsticles
Member
I hope Brode gets called out on that card. It's one thing to only get one legendary in 64 packs so far, and it's another to have the one legendary you get be completely unplayable. :-/
Blizzard would never let an overpowered class card remain in the game untouched for a long period of time.
Blizzard would never let an overpowered class card remain in the game untouched for a long period of time.
Exactly. It would never happen.
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Xamtheking
Member
He said Class cardsExactly. It would never happen.
Please understand
Infernodash
Member
Lol, I know old blizzard would take forever. But...Ben seemed to express remorse for earlier lack of vision with cards and their effects on the meta and I hoped he would turn over a new leaf and be more proactive with the new expansion. Especially, within the first week.
oh right, my bad
To the shock of no one.
Only another year and those cards might cycle out. Blizzard Balancing™
Dunno why anyone would believe Ben Brode, the Jay Wilson of Hearthstone, he has proven himself incompetent plenty of times.
therers a tournament this weekend?
Karsticles
Member
RIP Handlock. 
"We want less time between announcements and releases."
-Makes us wait 2 months between WotOG's announcement and release.
"We want the game to be more interactive. We don't want people to die from no board or interaction."
-Makes zero changes to Freeze Mage, the biggest OTK deck there is, and creates a new OTK deck through a Priest epic in WotOG.
"We don't want any lopsided matchups like Control Warrior vs. Freeze Mage."
-Makes no changes that would actually affect this.
"Paladin is my favorite class."
-Speaks for itself.
I think the man might be an Ogre, but the head we always see is Hearthstone PR Ben, while Hearthstone Balance Ben is slightly off camera designing and balancing cards without any concern for what the other head said.
Just think about who you're quoting:
"We want less time between announcements and releases."
-Makes us wait 2 months between WotOG's announcement and release.
"We want the game to be more interactive. We don't want people to die from no board or interaction."
-Makes zero changes to Freeze Mage, the biggest OTK deck there is, and creates a new OTK deck through a Priest epic in WotOG.
"We don't want any lopsided matchups like Control Warrior vs. Freeze Mage."
-Makes no changes that would actually affect this.
"Paladin is my favorite class."
-Speaks for itself.
I think the man might be an Ogre, but the head we always see is Hearthstone PR Ben, while Hearthstone Balance Ben is slightly off camera designing and balancing cards without any concern for what the other head said.
OGN invitational and EGLX
ooo, thats going to be interesting to see the new cards in play. fun times ahead, although zoolock is going to be there in force
I played around 20 games with him in my Dragons-N'zoth deck.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/511684-old-gods-dragons-of-nzoth
The healing he provides is pretty game-changing, especially if you went through the match killing minions with your truesilvers. It can sometimes cause problems where you have to trade away a damaged minion to ensure that ragnaros lands the heal on you, but its usually pretty okay to managed. If the hunter/shaman can't deal with him, you auto-win basically (8 damage threat + 8 damage heals per turn).
Its also a good entomb bait vs priest, since they can't handle too much big minions with lightbomb gone. I would rather deal with a stolen Ragnaros lightlord than a stolen Sylvanas or Tirion.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Are people actually calling for nerfs, and expecting them, the first week of the expansion? Really?
Karsticles
Member
That's exactly why I run 2x Mind Control. I'll steal all 3. :-D
It made me really sad when my opponent played Ragnaros Firelord, I Mind Controlled him, and then he got Mind Controlled back.
I was jovial when I stole Lightlord and then played Firelord the next turn. The dream!
Would you list all the amazing uses the Priest legendary has?
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Turns out you can discover C'Thun minions in arena, didn't know that.
Karsticles
Member
I think the game needs a bigger shake-up than a new card set. I wish Hearthstone would take some lessons from Duelyst.
Nah game is far more enjoyable even with these unbalanced shit, because shit from gvg/naxx still more broken.. and they not even class card, thanks god I don't need to see Boom and Avenge again, streamer also having fun
There was a honeymoon phase for TGT?
Yeah, it lasted about the as long as it took you to open the packs you bought.
People had fun with their Inspire decks for a week plus some weird stuff like Lock n Load decks. Back then Secret Paladin was new and people were amazed at the Christmas tree "dream". Yes back then pulling that off was considered a big deal. Also Dragon decks were invented in TGT which was a good time to be a dragon fan.
There was an Archon tournament back then right when TGT came out. Xixo brought in Secret Paladin and was constantly derided for bringing it because it was perceived to be bad and gimmicky. He was later kicked off of his team for whatever reasons.
People are quick to forget stuff from TGT.
That's exactly why I run 2x Mind Control. I'll steal all 3. :-D
It made me really sad when my opponent played Ragnaros Firelord, I Mind Controlled him, and then he got Mind Controlled back.
I was jovial when I stole Lightlord and then played Firelord the next turn. The dream!
2 Mind Controls in a meta with zoo, freeze mage and face shaman?
thekillermuffin
Member
Seeing all these N'Zoth decks makes me so regretful for dusting my golden Cairne. I was so naive, dusting that in summer 2014...
So, I have build this Zoo Deck now, with the exception of Dark Peddler, because I don't own any of the Explorers Adventure wings. Any good alternatives I could use? I currently just put in a Leery and a Boneguard Lieutenant, but both don't work that well. The new Bilefin Murloc looks promising as an alternative though. Anything else I forgot?
I dont think that's accurate, people are having funw ith wild new decks, and just a little bit of salt from some about the councilman. Personally I am having a blast, I am just upset over the priest legendary, and i will continue to be when shadowcaster is better than it as an epic for rogues.But aside from that, I am loving n'zoth paladin
Ah Chillmaw would be pretty nice, unfortunately I don't have him and probably not gonna craft unless I feel like making a Dragon Priest or something else down the line. The Tauren taunt the spawns the slime is working out pretty well.
Traditional control warrior?
I've been having a lot of fun fine tuning my paladin deck. I'll post the list up later when I get home.
I first found I didn't have enough healing so I added some more, then I found board clears to be a problem so swapped some dud c'thun minions out for consecrate/equality.
I first found I didn't have enough healing so I added some more, then I found board clears to be a problem so swapped some dud c'thun minions out for consecrate/equality.
The first week of the expansion is basically the worst time to nerf something. The meta needs like a month to two months to stabilize. People need time to open and craft legendaries and refine decks.
I still think the standard meta we have now is preferable to the meta we had prior. It's kind of a bummer that the ladder has so quickly reverted to aggro, but I suppose it was inevitable while people were testing these slow, unoptimized C'thun decks.
Played two games of Evolve Shaman this morning after I went on my crafting spree, it's preeeeeetty good. I'm using a list that has Bloodlust, and it's surprising how fast you can refill the board with that deck in order to get value.
Played two games of Evolve Shaman this morning after I went on my crafting spree, it's preeeeeetty good. I'm using a list that has Bloodlust, and it's surprising how fast you can refill the board with that deck in order to get value.
thekillermuffin
Member
Heavily considering dusting my molten giant(s). I just can't see if really being used much more now that it's up to 25 mana.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
FUCK YEAH 12-2 ARENA
Not bad for my second ever arena run
Watching so many Kripp, Hafu and ADWCTA arena runs paid off.
Not bad for my second ever arena run
Watching so many Kripp, Hafu and ADWCTA arena runs paid off.
Even people claiming that the councilman is broken is just because hes new. I'm guessing some people are mulliganning for their specific cards to do their combo or something or aren't teching for contingencies cause decks aren't refined
thekillermuffin
Member
FUCK YEAH 12-2 ARENA
Not bad for my second ever arena run
Watching so many Kripp, Hafu and ADWCTA arena runs paid off.
Congrats! My best ever is only 7 wins. Someday I'll get there.
I was getting a lot of good Shaman cards in my Old Gods packs so I started to make a deck, I'm almost finished but don't know what to fill in as my last three. I don't have Sentinel, Evolve, or Tunnel Trogg (I don't have any expansions).
I'm planning on adding 1 Evolve and 2 Sentinels to round it out, but that'll take some time. The Bloodlust doesn't seem optimal but not sure what to replace it with.
I'm planning on adding 1 Evolve and 2 Sentinels to round it out, but that'll take some time. The Bloodlust doesn't seem optimal but not sure what to replace it with.
Oh dang I totally forgot avenge is gone. Been playing around it still haha.
Kripp has as well the first few days. I haven't really seen any secrets from paladins be played though.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, when I first saw a secret pali, I assumed I accidently was in wild and played around avenge too. Lot harder to win when you do that.
Secret Paladin isn't so scary if you can control the board, but it's a lot harder to control the board when you're worried about avenge going off.