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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
- Thread starter ZealousD
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I wish there were an easy, integrated way to share lists from within the client, at least on iOS. Hang tight!
I think it's the same deal with Blade Flurry. Losing these cards was huge, but the fact of the matter is all other classes lost Shredder, Boom, Mad Scientist, Belcher, and Healbot, cards that Oil and Patron only occasionally used. To say the least of class cards.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Wow, first time I beat a warlock who used jaraxxus in such a long time... as control paladin. THANK GOD FOR CTHUN.
No wait.
Thank C'THUN FOR GOD
Close enough.
It was close. I still had forbidden healing to bring me back to full hp but that would have only stalled like 1 turn if he got his c'thun out first.
I do recall beating warlock in gvg/brm/loe with control paladin sometimes, but it was always so damn difficult. Jaraxxus is just that good.
No wait.
Thank C'THUN FOR GOD
Close enough.
It was close. I still had forbidden healing to bring me back to full hp but that would have only stalled like 1 turn if he got his c'thun out first.
I do recall beating warlock in gvg/brm/loe with control paladin sometimes, but it was always so damn difficult. Jaraxxus is just that good.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Play Stand Against Darkness
Don't clear the Pyromancer
What the fuck is wrong with me
Don't clear the Pyromancer
What the fuck is wrong with me
I wasn't feeling the Control C'thun Paladin at first, but it really fleshed out the control paladins weakness of not having any burst damage to finish out a game.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Sure, I can agree to that. As long as Mana Wyrm gets nerfed too.
LyleLanley
Banned
Yeah, I guess there's no screen that shows your entire deck list at once on iPhone.
if you want help i'm sure we can if you want.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Man, Raptor Rogue is more fun then ever. Undercity Huckster is such an awesome card and N'Zoth is just insane for control matchups.
Here's what I'm using:
Backstab x2
Shadowstep x2
Journey Below x2
Sir Finley
Eviscerate x2
Sap x2
Bloodmage
Loot Hoarder
Undercity Huckster x2 (BUY ONE!!!)
Fan of Knives
Earthen Ring Farseer
SI:7 Agent x2
Unearthed Raptor x2
Defender of Argus x2
Xar'il
Azure Drake x2
Shadowcaster x2
Cairne
Sylvanas
N'Zoth
Modified from a deathrattle rogue I net decked. I realized none of it was interacting with rogue's hero power, so I threw Finley in to try for Mage pings of lifetap, or really, pretty much anything else. It's been good.
I tell you, one of the only frustrations with this deck so far is that the kill comes before I get to play N'Zoth.
Yeah I got to rank 5 earlier over a pile of shaman corpses. Pretty sure I got 5 in a row, lol.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Okay this Aggro divine Paladin deck is fun as hell.
Selfless hero is broken if you're up against a class that can't ping.
Selfless hero is broken if you're up against a class that can't ping.
running it with a twilight drake?
Overload, at it's heart, was a way of simulating Shaman's classic "burst" potential from the WoW game. Shocks, weapon, buffs, and random spell ranges were meant to illustrate that.
However, Overload as a mechanic I have never liked. It seems worthless, created for no general purpose other than boredom, and occupies design space creativity when it comes to new cards. It's the opposite of Ramping from Druid. Everyone upset with Doomhammer, I'll happily trade it away for:
- Better ways to call forth Totems that's aren't random bullshit.
- Even more Totem synergy on top of that.
- Spells that don't fuck the class over.
- Better usage of Windfury.
Shamans didn't get any C'Thun mechanics nor Forbidden cards this expansion. There aren't any Dragon, Pirate, or Beast class cards nor do they have any Deathrattle minions. Murlocs were never worthwhile. Windfury is a joke compared to Divine Shield, expect when (surprise surprise) placed on a weapon. All that's left to give is Overload, so that's where the perks and buffs must put in place. The implementation is still clunky to this day.
However, Overload as a mechanic I have never liked. It seems worthless, created for no general purpose other than boredom, and occupies design space creativity when it comes to new cards. It's the opposite of Ramping from Druid. Everyone upset with Doomhammer, I'll happily trade it away for:
- Better ways to call forth Totems that's aren't random bullshit.
- Even more Totem synergy on top of that.
- Spells that don't fuck the class over.
- Better usage of Windfury.
Shamans didn't get any C'Thun mechanics nor Forbidden cards this expansion. There aren't any Dragon, Pirate, or Beast class cards nor do they have any Deathrattle minions. Murlocs were never worthwhile. Windfury is a joke compared to Divine Shield, expect when (surprise surprise) placed on a weapon. All that's left to give is Overload, so that's where the perks and buffs must put in place. The implementation is still clunky to this day.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
BOOO... this classic control warrior didn't let me play a 21/21 cthun with brann on board...
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Drake is terrible if you don't have the divine shield girl on board, might give it a try though.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
For the first time ever I'm experiencing draw go outside of mtg, amazing.
I think the nerf was definite overkill. Making it 22-23 would be alright.
Though gutting molten while keeping mountain and introducing a 4 mana 7/7 is...uh.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Of course my first loss in a while is against Zoo, actually almost won too, too bad I couldn't draw my weapons or my divine favors.
LyleLanley
Banned
Here's what I'm using:
Backstab x2
Shadowstep x2
Journey Below x2
Sir Finley
Eviscerate x2
Sap x2
Bloodmage
Loot Hoarder
Undercity Huckster x2 (BUY ONE!!!)
Fan of Knives
Earthen Ring Farseer
SI:7 Agent x2
Unearthed Raptor x2
Defender of Argus x2
Xar'il
Azure Drake x2
Shadowcaster x2
Cairne
Sylvanas
N'Zoth
Modified from a deathrattle rogue I net decked. I realized none of it was interacting with rogue's hero power, so I threw Finley in to try for Mage pings of lifetap, or really, pretty much anything else. It's been good.
I tell you, one of the only frustrations with this deck so far is that the kill comes before I get to play N'Zoth.
I've only played 2 games with this deck so far but I like it. You have 31 cards in that list by the way.
No Chow, no 2 mana Owl, no Belcher, no Healbot, no Dark Bomb, nerfed Molten Giant.
All the while game becoming more and more aggressive.
Handlock in its prime with Wild cards would not be able to stand up against Shaman right now. That match up was always not that good for Handlock now it's just awful.
Cthun meta also makes it rough for Handlock, can't activate Jaraxxus until Cthun has been played or in dire situations.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Wow... this lock n load hunter... what a match. I was completely confused by his plays at first. In fact, still confused by him throwing away UTH like he did early on. But when he played yogg sauron... it actually cast had him steal my brann bronzebeard with shadowmadness, then it cast bloodlust, call of the wild, hellfire... if it cast no hellfire and the call of the wild before bloodlust, I would have died or gotten down to like almost no hp.
I got my brann bronzebeard back and I played twins instead of cthun cause I was too afraid of burn and I wanted to use forbidden healing. I ended up winning even though he dealt with my cthun with a deadly shot.
I didn't get to double cthun blast cause his yogg sauron RNG also gave him ball of spiders which gave him a stampeding kodo of all things to get...
More aggressive? I dunno about that. I've been playing mostly slower decks with only a few zoo/shaman in between. Occasionally a tempo mage too I guess.
I got my brann bronzebeard back and I played twins instead of cthun cause I was too afraid of burn and I wanted to use forbidden healing. I ended up winning even though he dealt with my cthun with a deadly shot.
I didn't get to double cthun blast cause his yogg sauron RNG also gave him ball of spiders which gave him a stampeding kodo of all things to get...
More aggressive? I dunno about that. I've been playing mostly slower decks with only a few zoo/shaman in between. Occasionally a tempo mage too I guess.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Lost 5 games in a row 4 times because of missing 1 piece of the mass removal and the reßt to ridiculous draws.
Edit: make that 6, time to call it a night.
Edit: make that 6, time to call it a night.
thekillermuffin
Member
Haha I was about say the same thing, luckily I only have one Shadowcaster in my collection. Played one match and won, though the person conceded before I put anything heavy down (I established my board too quickly I guess).
Like 90% of my matches are against Shaman and Zoolock with the occasional Cthun decks and Tempo Mage thrown in the mix.
If like half of the matches are against Shaman then it would be an awful idea to play Handlock. If the other half are Cthun decks then that would also be a bad idea. Handlock would really only beat Zoolock and Patron in the meta.
Surprisingly Cthun Renolock is not that bad at all provided you have Reno in hand.
If like half of the matches are against Shaman then it would be an awful idea to play Handlock. If the other half are Cthun decks then that would also be a bad idea. Handlock would really only beat Zoolock and Patron in the meta.
Surprisingly Cthun Renolock is not that bad at all provided you have Reno in hand.
Oh you don't get it, see the reason people hated KJ was cause he was a 3/2 not cause of the knives. Blizzard clearly did the right nerf.
/s
I think streamers need to go ham on Freeze Mage like they did on BGH a while back for Blizzard to do something.
We are due for a Kibler article and a "how good is Freeze Mage video".
No no, see, the knives are the soul of Juggler. Like how when you think of Warsong Commander you automatically think of 2/3.
call_kotaku
Member
totally forgot you could get astral communion from servant of yogg
what a trash card, never drafting it in arena again
what a trash card, never drafting it in arena again
Someone said got frustrated with one earlier today, I'm sure it's coming, specially since he knows how to take losses from years of pro play.
if multiple old gods ar eon the same field they should interact with each other in some way like with special banter
My bad. Only 1x Defender of Argus. I'm glad! Please make suggestions if you find better substitutions.
Also, what rank/mode are you all seeing freeze mages in? Three days since Old Gods launched and I haven't faced one in Casual or Ranked (12-8)
Knife Juggler was a significant barrier for Blizzard on 2 drops. Part of the reason it was as strong as it was is that you were perfectly happy dropping it on curve. It was one of the strongest 2 drops they could have possibly printed without doing some cheating bullshit like Mad Scientist or Shielded Minibot. Now it's a token/flood synergy card. The nerf did exactly what Blizzard intended it to do. Now you see cards like Flame Juggler and Huge Toad being played in decks that might otherwise have slotted Knife Juggler in those spaces.
You know what deck they should just delete from the game? Astral Communion Druid. Nothing feels worse than losing to a turn one Astral Communion into a turn two Rafaam.
Busted my ass to start a win streak with a home brew control deck in a hyper aggro meta and I lose because some shit head with a bad deck had a perfect opening hand into the perfect top deck.
Busted my ass to start a win streak with a home brew control deck in a hyper aggro meta and I lose because some shit head with a bad deck had a perfect opening hand into the perfect top deck.