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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
- Thread starter ZealousD
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N'zoth hunter is pretty fun
Must be a lot of new zoo players too cause they seem to have no clue how to play against patron. I'm playing patron and a I am destroying most zoo I come across even though it should probably be closer than it is.
A lot of new Zoo players aren't really experienced with controlling the board and put themselves in vulnerable situations, but yeah, Patron should be winning most games.
I've noticed this too, too many times people play naked councilmans to a board that is 1 damage off from being able to kill them, or having really bad placement of wolfs.
Does literally any class other than priest have no viable decks right now? Dragon priest is ass without velens, shadow priest still doesn't have enough juice and c"thun priest is only so so.
Does anyone have a competitive priest deck I can play with because it's the only deck I haven't been able to come up with something decent
Dragon Priest is pretty good, people are sleeping on it.
I present to you guys my home-brewed Secret Cthun Paladin:
*Use Cthun minions for early game board presence with Secrets to keep them guessing.
*Secret Keeper as strong turn 1 play with Secret follow ups (it still works like a pseudo under taker, nothing has changed on that front)
*Turn 3 and Turn 4 you have good board control tools with stuff like Disciple of Cthun, Aldor, Truesilver GG and Keeper of Uldaman.
*Transition into mid game to late game with Mysterious Challenger which thins your deck allowing you to more consistently draw into Cthun/Twin Emperor.
*Twin Emperor, Tirion and Cthun as late game finishers in case MC isn't able to close out games.
*Single copy of Divine Favor to help with draws, still lots of greedy decks in meta that can be punished by it.
Pretty decent Midrange deck, got almost to rank 5 with it before I started experimenting with other stuff. MC's ability to pull out secrets is still game breaking and you just need to formulate a game plan to get to that stage. MC will often buy you a turn or two to get into the Cthun finishers.
I present to you guys my home-brewed Secret Cthun Paladin:
*Use Cthun minions for early game board presence with Secrets to keep them guessing.
*Secret Keeper as strong turn 1 play with Secret follow ups (it still works like a pseudo under taker, nothing has changed on that front)
*Turn 3 and Turn 4 you have good board control tools with stuff like Disciple of Cthun, Aldor, Truesilver GG and Keeper of Uldaman.
*Transition into mid game to late game with Mysterious Challenger which thins your deck allowing you to more consistently draw into Cthun/Twin Emperor.
*Twin Emperor, Tirion and Cthun as late game finishers in case MC isn't able to close out games.
*Single copy of Divine Favor to help with draws, still lots of greedy decks in meta that can be punished by it.
Pretty decent Midrange deck, got almost to rank 5 with it before I started experimenting with other stuff. MC's ability to pull out secrets is still game breaking and you just need to formulate a game plan to get to that stage. MC will often buy you a turn or two to get into the Cthun finishers.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Sea Giant is so strong without the efficient BGH counter. Kinda crazy they didn't nerf that alongside BGH.
Professor Lich
Member
What's your deck list for that like? I'm still trying to get something to work and its been rough.
I squeeked that out. I really felt bad cause thats 28 (well across my board and face) from chun alone, 12 to face from cthun (cause I had to smack the first one to death) and 4 from holy nova not to mention the damage his minions did to me.
Karsticles
Member
The class has zero viable plays before turn 3. It's pretty sad. Even turn 3 is just Steal Thoughts. The actual board presence you can make is on turn 4. With Troggs everywhere, you have no hope of Northshire Cleric lasting long, especially if Totem Golem follows. You're already overrun with a 1/3 (or if you are lucky, a 1/5) on the board against a 2/3 and 3/4, or a 3/3 and two 2/3s if they coined out wolves. Deathlord used to stabilize all this, but he's gone now.
Like Dahbomb said, Priests are now FORCED to play Dragon Priest to stay viable.
Especially with Forbiddden Tentacles.
Everyone was like "NERF BGH!"
And then they nerfed BGH and everyone is like "WTF FLAMEWREATHED and SEA GIANT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE."
I'm not saying BGH didn't need a nerf (it did, the tempo swing you got with that card was too much) but BGH would have made Flamewreathed a lot worse.
And then they nerfed BGH and everyone is like "WTF FLAMEWREATHED and SEA GIANT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE."
I'm not saying BGH didn't need a nerf (it did, the tempo swing you got with that card was too much) but BGH would have made Flamewreathed a lot worse.
RecRoulette
Member
Five Shaman mirrors in a row, this is the game we play.
Oh god fuck that guy. Seriously how is that guy a good idea. So overpowered.
Karsticles
Member
This is all that needs to be said. No one wanted 7-attack minions coming out on turn 3. We just don't want Ragnaros to get killed by a 3-mana 4-2.
Gosh I wish the EU ladder I was playing on was filled with C'Thun decks that lose. Instead for me if I play a C'Thun deck the other guy gets his out first, if I don't play a C'Thun deck I get owned anyway. Can't even move the needle off the starting position, still rank 20.
Seconded. Can't see myself ever going back to Wild, I simply don't have the cards for it and never will unless I win the lottery and spend like £1000 on packs or whatever.
Karsticles
Member
Is that because of the Owl nerf, though, or because of no Sludge Belcher? I think it's the latter.
Only because Standard is all C'Thun decks at the moment. It'll settle down eventually I'm sure. But for someone like me who doesn't have a lot of classic legendaries that everyone else has, Standard is a better choice - everyone gets C'Thun, plus I got like 4 or 5 other Old Gods legendaries from the preorder packs - but from opening 50 packs I only made enough dust to craft ONE legendary. ONE. At that rate I'd have to buy, what, 200, 300 classic packs to even be competitive in Wild.
I don't know and don't care lol just glad it's gone
I find that having a win condition for turns 8 and 9 helps a lot as does going face unless the trades are really good. It's a race against time.
I think that once the dust settles only druids will be playing C'Thun decks.
slightconfuse
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Been using the deck recipe for it. Just added 2 call of the wilds
Warrior will play C'thun. Ancient Shieldbearer is too good to not to.
Once I realised the world + dog were playing C'Thun decks, I thought that too. But I tried the best face deck I could find (that I have cards for) and still didn't get anywhere.
Karsticles
Member
Freezing Trap, Bear Trap, and Snake Trap > Explosive Trap. Explosive Trap is overrated.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
In an aggro meta, explosive trap is king.
Karsticles
Member
Only if they can't control when they go face. Against most decks I've faced, the players will trade down to one small minion proc the trap, and then play their cards. Pretty weak show in most cases. Hunter is all I play, and I've used all of the traps a lot. Explosive Trap is the weakest. Maybe if you're playing Control Hunter, if that ever becomes a thing.
Yeah man, I seriously don't know what's going on in arena now.
Before the expansion I was averaging 7 wins. Now I'm lucky to get 3 wins.
It's insane, I don't know if it's my general bad luck in the game that I get matched with insane decks but it feels like everyone retires unless they get a 12-win deck.
It's honestly making me want to quit, and a shaman evolving a scarab into a king mukla doesn't help.
Maybe I should start using the arena ranking lists.
Before the expansion I was averaging 7 wins. Now I'm lucky to get 3 wins.
It's insane, I don't know if it's my general bad luck in the game that I get matched with insane decks but it feels like everyone retires unless they get a 12-win deck.
It's honestly making me want to quit, and a shaman evolving a scarab into a king mukla doesn't help.
Maybe I should start using the arena ranking lists.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not saying to not nerf BGH, I'm saying to think about the impact of a BGH nerf and think about nerfing other cards BGH was keeping in check.
Honestly they should have nerfed Dr. Boom with it too just for the sake of Wild. BGH was like the only card that could be seen as an efficient trade with it.
True. Potentially game winning all by itself with Brann on board.
That looks too facey to win against C'Thun decks.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Hey guys. I just had a quick question.
Is there no way to get the old cards in Hearthstone now or is there some way I'm missing? Like if you wanted to play Wild in the future are you just shit out of luck with the old expansions?
Is there no way to get the old cards in Hearthstone now or is there some way I'm missing? Like if you wanted to play Wild in the future are you just shit out of luck with the old expansions?
Karsticles
Member
You have to craft the cards individually. It sucks, but there are only a handful of cards that you really want/need. #1 and 2 are Dr. Boom and Piloted Shredder.
Gipsy Danger
Member
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Rogue looks like a fun class. Need a vancleef and Xaril tho
Anyone watching this esl touney?
Anyone watching this esl touney?