There was a third card as well.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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MetroidPrimeRib
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Karsticles
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I feel like the Old Gods should have a new ability called Hexproof that protects them from instant kill and transmutation effects. No one wants to see C'thun get turned into a sheep and pinged for 1.
Professor Lich
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The main thing is, what minions would you want to pull and play without getting a battle cry? Just seems really odd when you compare him to C'thun and N'Zoth who have more interesting things going on.
Maybe there's another minion out there that effects cards drawn or cards played not from the hand that we haven't seen yet, but that's really unlikely since we haven't seen anything else that reflects that.
Maybe there's another minion out there that effects cards drawn or cards played not from the hand that we haven't seen yet, but that's really unlikely since we haven't seen anything else that reflects that.
In Tempo Mage deck you already have Azure Drake and Ethereal Conjurer competing for that 5 mana spot.
There was a third card as well.
However, this card is definitely very good for Grinder/Fatigue Mage especially now with Duplicate and Echo of Medivh gone.
I mean we've only had two full expansions so far. While TGT was just a complete failure in the constructed sense GvG had a massive impact on the meta.
Super Nothing
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Harbinger puts the cards in your hand, not on the battlefield.
Karsticles
Member
Depends on the nerfs.
Sure, but it was still only a subset of those cards. I don't have the math on me, but it feels like percentage of adventure cards w/ impact are greater than percentage of expansion cards w/ impact.
SonicXtreme
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I think I'm just gonna start spending my hoarded gold for gvg packs and arena now for some of the goodies ive missed, looks like blizz going very far to kill face race from standard and you need lots of cards that synergize with all the new leggys so it's kinda all or nothing it seems, doesn't feel like there's gonna be many good one offs you can use to build your own deck, most of the synergies seem very auto include
Professor Lich
Member
Maybe we'll get more Harbinger cards that do things with 10 cost cards or something, but that's a really static, low power effect for an old god card.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
C'Thun would be absolutely unbeatable if he came down at like 14/14, did 14 damage to your board and then was immune to removal.
Now even if he gets sheeped he still does immense damage, it's just Y'Shaarj that gets fucked by removal. The good thing about Y'Shaarj is that you won't see it coming(where a C'Thun is super obvious) so there's a chance you don't have the removal immediately, in which case he's terrifying.
Nerfs on what?
Karsticles
Member
Ramp Druid has lots of battlecries involved for its minions. Maybe they should let this card trigger them.
You can still nuke it and such.
Potentially Azure Drake.
If Drake gets nerfed then Tempo Mage would double up on Ethereal Conjurers and Arcane Intellects. This card is a bit too slow for that deck though still usable as a one of. It's really more of a Grinder Mage style card.
Yeah I agree with that, since the card number of adventures is so limited there's way less tolerance for shit/filler cards especially since Blizz always wants to push multiple themes.
The Lamonster
Member
What card back are we getting tomorrow?
You mean with the ancients? I guess I was thinking like iron barks and sun walkers and stuff.
Hogger. They haven't announced the next one yet.
Super Nothing
Member
Grinder Mage is dead in Standard. Without Duplicate, Echo, Sludge Belcher, and Healbot, most of its core strategy is removed.
Professor Lich
Member
The main problem is how un-controlled it is. It's any minion from your deck, which while you can control a little bit if the meta slows down, you could still pull that 2 or 3 drop you have to help stem off aggro.
However, seems good if you get it from Golden Monkey since all cards turn into Legendaries.
Fake Edit: A long time ago I ran a Reincarnate Shaman that only ran minions that were 6 or more. (Excluding Shieldmastah and Sudgebelcher.) It was a deck where I ran Far Sight because if I could get a good draw, I could drop something awesome for cheap or do a OTK combo. That's the problem though, you have no control over it, so it could be amazing, or it could be horrible.
Also, with that Harbinger card, if you play two, you could pull another 10 cost minion from your deck, which then ruins the value of playing Y'Sharaaj. It all just seems awkward to me when compared to the other two Old Gods.
A lot just really depends on how slow the game gets in Standard.
With more cards like these it might not be completely dead.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
There's still 7 Mage cards to reveal and plenty of neutrals so I wouldn't jump the gun on what decks will and won't be dead.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Minions with end of turn effects (Ragnaros) won't activate when brought out by Y'shaarj.
https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/715590853054431232
https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/715590853054431232
I think I'd rather have pagle.
oh jesus. Literally the only part that made this playable. Wellp.
It's like how KT doesn't revive minions that die to PO.
Acerac
Banned
It'd probably singlehandedly win games in arena, what with being a 10/10 that adds value until it's removed.
It's not constructed good, but let's not act like the card is crap all around. Come on now.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Here's my design idea:
Battlecry: Destroy a random minion from your deck, deal its damage to all enemy characters.
I lost a game earlier to an aggro warrior because of mortal strike, i played another one just now and thought "should i play around mortal strike by playing sludge instead of tirion?" No, no i am not going to. I just didn't feel like it and despite being rank 6 i had already hit five this season so i didn't have to win.
Mortal Strike.
Mortal Strike.
Just what I want, cards to help me beat old adventures.
Really? Drake is a fabulous card, but absolutely balanced.
In a way I think it's fascinating to go back to old adventures and absolutely demolish them with new cards. I'd love if someone else came up w/ god-tier decks for them and replayed them and recorded them on youtube.
Karsticles
Member
Dahbomb brought it up in a previous conversation; I wouldn't have brought it up if I were quoting anyone else.
But I think Azure Drake is really strong compared to other cards around its area. Compare it to Inventor, a 2/4 for 4 that lets you draw a card. Azure Drake is a 4/4 that lets you draw a card and gives spell damage. It's pretty much auto-include in a lot of spell-oriented decks because it gives the spell buff but doesn't cost you anything. It's one of two spell buff cards that get used in this game.
Does it need a nerf? No, I'd rather have other cards move up to its level.
LMAO then this card is even more dumpster tier.
That's something that Blizzard will never ever do. They are too scared of power creep (and rightfully so in a card game).
Karsticles
Member
I felt like Naxx had the right level of power, with a few exceptions. GvG isn't really too strong for the most part, it just has a lot of RNG crap. LoE and BRM are solid. It's really TGT that is a piece of crap set, and this set feels more like TGT than everything else so far.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I wonder if they're going to add a title to C'thun.
Would be kind of weird if you have N'Zoth, The Corruptor and Y'shaarj, Rage Unbound and then just C'thun.
Would be kind of weird if you have N'Zoth, The Corruptor and Y'shaarj, Rage Unbound and then just C'thun.