Lone_Prodigy
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That anxious moment when you play Soulfire and hope your Doomguard isn't discarded.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It would break them against certain classes. Paladin for instance has dreadful early game removal and can't do shit, not only that but it becomes counterproductive to use the hero power even.
Super Nothing
Member
Paladins have Equality, True Silver, and Keeper of Uldaman. I beat a Priest with Midrange Paladin after he played turn 1 Cleric, turn 3 Deathlord, turn 4 Deathlord + Cleric by doing nothing until turn 5 where I Equality Consecrated him (with the Coin). It was a slaughter from there on out.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
So have I, it's not like priest opening like that is auto concede but you can't tell me sitting there doing nothing for 5 turns feels particularly good. Especially if you don't yet have the answer in hand.
Priest is the ultimate "sit there doing nothing for X turns" class.
I wish it would get an overhaul. It's like 3 years into Hearthstone now and nothing has really worked for Priest so it's long enough to do a class overhaul. The best Priest decks were still only like tier 2.
I wish it would get an overhaul. It's like 3 years into Hearthstone now and nothing has really worked for Priest so it's long enough to do a class overhaul. The best Priest decks were still only like tier 2.
GamerKingFaiz
Member
New UI changes coming in the next patch.
You will be able to see your arena record.
As well as the rules in a tavern brawl.
Source video.. Starts around 1:00.
You will be able to see your arena record.
As well as the rules in a tavern brawl.
Source video.. Starts around 1:00.
Super Nothing
Member
It doesn't, but neither does losing to Tunnel Trogg, Totem Golem, Coin + Feral Spirits or Mana Wyrm, Frost Bolt, Flamewaker + Coin + Arcane Missiles. Priest has never had anything close to that strong of an opener.
It feels bad when you reflect on a match to see if you could have played better to change the outcome of the match and you can't think of a single thing. Please save me from this stale ass aggro ladder. I'd rather play against control warrior every single match so I could actually play the game and make a meaningful decision.
I'm trying so hard to make a non-warrior control deck to deal with constant aggro decks but they all feel so inconsistent. If I don't draw multiple removals in the first 2 turns, it's game over. If I somehow get through the first 4-5 turns while controlling the board, I need to draw heals because they can still burst you from their hand. It just feels like I have little to no control over the outcome of these games.
I recently crafted the cards I needed to make a good N'zoth Paladin deck after giving up on trying to make Priest work and it's doing a good job clearing the board and winning late game (even against control warrior), but Forbidden Heals are almost always at the bottom of my deck. Or I don't draw my weapon removals in time. Do I really have to use control warrior or join the aggro army?
I'm trying so hard to make a non-warrior control deck to deal with constant aggro decks but they all feel so inconsistent. If I don't draw multiple removals in the first 2 turns, it's game over. If I somehow get through the first 4-5 turns while controlling the board, I need to draw heals because they can still burst you from their hand. It just feels like I have little to no control over the outcome of these games.
I recently crafted the cards I needed to make a good N'zoth Paladin deck after giving up on trying to make Priest work and it's doing a good job clearing the board and winning late game (even against control warrior), but Forbidden Heals are almost always at the bottom of my deck. Or I don't draw my weapon removals in time. Do I really have to use control warrior or join the aggro army?
The hell are you talking about? humility, equality, keeper, peacekeeper, rallying blade, truesilver, argent lance. Hell they even got buffs to trade up with blessing of might , seal of champions and divine strength.
So how a priest feels pretty much every game. None of your arguments have been even remotely viable.
i don't like to complain about this game much, but seriously, this kind of stuff shouldn't even be mentioned.
i hope they don't try to show this off as a big deal
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I fail to see how casting humility on a Northshire Cleric is in any way or form effective.
Equality and any buffs need minions on board to count as removal which is the problem to start, or come online late.
Truesilves costs 4 and Rallying blade more supports my claim than counters it since it's being played even outside of bubble paladin at times specifically to deal with x/3s.
The best removal turn 2 and early in general is Doomsayer and it's being played just for that considering lategame paladin has no way to enable it.
That's well possible considering my distaste for the class.
Karsticles
Member
That's it? That's so small and sad.
GamerKingFaiz
Member
I'm sure that's not the only thing that's coming. In the video they're hiring a new UI designer, so they showcased some of the kind of stuff a UI designer could expect to create at Blizzard.
We're not discussing northshire clerics though, we're discussing hypothetical strong early game for priests which you claimed would destroy some classes like paladin that had no way to deal with strong early game from a priests if priest got it.
You're trying to bring up situations where "omg you can't do anything but hero power until 5", but moments like that don't often happen. Even right now, if you claim that a paladin can't deal with a priest if they get stronger early game, than look at this way, how does a paladin deal with early shaman game right now? The same way it would with early priest game if priest got it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Northshire Cleric is the baseline to strong early game right now. Why do you think paladin is down all the way to Tier 3 by now. Paladin can't deal with heavy aggression early right now, especially if the opponent can rebuilt faster than you.
But even then damage is at least permanent meaning a turn 4 consecration might actually clear the board up, for a turn.
TimeEffect
Member
Lost an arena game because I was stuck in an infinite matchfinding screen.
So damn annoying
So damn annoying
Karsticles
Member
I expect:
Replays
Win History (last 10 matches)
Ranked History
Various Player Stats (longest win streak, etc.)
Duelyst has all of that, and they're a tiny studio. -_-
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Of this list, I mostly care about replays. Unless they have stats for the last 10k games I've played, then I'll just use HDT for the rest of that stuff. HDT even has replays but I'd rather the replays be in game, and watchable as if you watched the game being played live.
All of this plus a mode where you can give CPU a deck and play against it.
Like this is all minimal day 1 stuff for an online card game.
Super Nothing
Member
I mostly play on a tablet, so HDT isn't really an option for me. It would be nice if Hearthstone would implement all of this stuff in the game so that I can use these features.
I don't like disenchanting anything that I don't have spares of, but yeah, Zerus doesn't look to have any real purpose since it's so random that you can't count on it for anything. I can't even see him being useful in Adventures like some mostly terrible cards are.
GamerKingFaiz
Member
Give the AI miracle rogue, let's see what happens.
Preach it!
Just say to yourself, at least it's not Anduin.
Karsticles
Member
I can't hear you guys over the howls of my Doomhammer's Windfury. ;-)
Nerf Shaman.
You got outplayed? Damn, I hope you learned from your mistake.
Yeah, forgetting to draw your removal before they can play their over-powered, on-curve minions is a YUGE misplay.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Of course how do you even play hearthstone with such bad topdeck skills?
Karsticles
Member
I tried out Solforge, and I am really enjoying it. The four digital card games I'm enjoying right now are:
1. Duelyst
2. Infinity Wars
3. Solforge
4. Hearthstone
In that order of enjoyment so far. IMHO, nothing else is worth playing, or it has a ridiculous grind.
Maybe some of you guys would enjoy expanding your tastes to other options out there right now? I'm in a happier place now that my card-gaming joy doesn't solely rest on RNGstone.
1. Duelyst
2. Infinity Wars
3. Solforge
4. Hearthstone
In that order of enjoyment so far. IMHO, nothing else is worth playing, or it has a ridiculous grind.
Maybe some of you guys would enjoy expanding your tastes to other options out there right now? I'm in a happier place now that my card-gaming joy doesn't solely rest on RNGstone.
LMAO @ the cheating on display...He forgot to do one thing....
Dude transmuted his hand into god damn Exodia.
I need to watch some YGO Arc V though.
I haven't played enough of Infinity Wars but mechanically it's a very solid game with a lot of potential to out play your opponent. I have also heard good things about Netrunner.
Duelyst is the closest to HS and Duelyst is just better than HS. Both of these games are centered around minion trading and minion HP management which is something that separates them from other games. That was the main defining pro point of HS but Duelyst just does that but better.
YGO is it's own thing, there isn't really a card game like it. Other card games usually have some form of resource that prevents you from summoning something massive on turn 1 and stealing a game... nah YGO is all about summoning massive stuff early on. Game is it's own type of fun though and has a different pace/flavor than most card games. It's the Marvel 2/3 to Magic's SF.
The biggest con of YGO is that there isn't really a good online version of it. You can play the F2P YGOPro but that has the most minimal UI imaginable and everything is manual which means that if you don't know what you are doing you are in for a world of hurt. The PS4 is great for getting your feet wet into YGO mechanics and game play but the online play is barren as pro players don't play on it because it's not completely up to date with the cards. Konami has a gold mine under their belt if they make a proper F2P PC YGO game but they are just fine sitting on their butts collecting cash from the TCG version of YGO.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I used to play solforge before hearthstone came out. Since then they've had too many expansions for me to care about getting back into it.
Also kinda funny it started early access before hearthstone, and is still listed as early access on steam. Nearly 3 years of early access lol.
Man, I've been wishing for this right after I played HearthStone for the first time. Can you imagine how many 90s kids would try and play Yu-Gi-Oh again if Konami released a PC cilent with as much polish as HearthStone? They could be the equivalent of Dota 2 in terms of player base for the digital TCG market.
I feel as good as Shaman currently is, its still feel like the weakest strongest meta archetipe. felt top 3 pre WOG would still quite above of it. but Face Shaman already tier 1 back then so I maybe off, but Secret Paladin, pre WOG Zoolock, freeze mage, seem much more frustating than current shaman crop.
Btw Dahbomb, ARC-V's hype.
Btw Dahbomb, ARC-V's hype.
LyleLanley
Banned
So apparently Prophet Velen's buff stacks, he may now be my favorite card in this brawl.
A random dude
Member
tfw you lose to 25% crackle RNG in arena FeelsBadMan
Damn straight. Especially if they put in stuff like Tag Dueling and a proper Arena/draft/seal play format.
But it's god damn Konami.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I've been looking for this for a while, all they have is a janky af mobile game that wasn't worth my time(let alone my money). I can't believe almost none of the big TCGs are jumping on the online train properly.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Wizards is rumoured to have a Magic online successor in the works. They recently got a new CEO that was an IT engineer from MS.
Codename is digital next.