That weapon is so dumb
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That weapon is so dumb
That face is almost Sad Affleck tier.
I wonder if huhu will be a druid board clear legendary. Like a better Geddon, only dealing damage to your opponent's minions, but with worse statline. Like "Deal 2/3 damage to all enemy minions at the end of each turn" or something. Make her 6 mana to combo with poison seeds?
6 Mana, 4/5 - deal 2 damage to all enemy minions at the end of each turn.
Professor Lich
Member
Either that or Hunter I'd guess. The idea you have makes a lot of sense since she'd do that in her Raid Encounter.
Or maybe she's the first Poison counter creature for Hearthstone! I'm sure that'd go over well.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I wonder if huhu will be a druid board clear legendary. Like a better Geddon, only dealing damage to your opponent's minions, but with worse statline. Like "Deal 2/3 damage to all enemy minions at the end of each turn" or something. Make her 6 mana to combo with poison seeds?
6 Mana, 4/5 - deal 2 damage to all enemy minions at the end of each turn.
So basically baron geddon on steroids for less mana
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
It's true, people complaining about what rank showed on your f-list. People complain about everything. I guess this change makes sense though.
They haven't been nearly that strong. A walking AOE that only hits one side? That's already unprecedented text.
So basically baron geddon on steroids for less mana
Yeah. Maybe lower stats, but class cards have been really strong this expac so far.
Hunter already has a legendary that does 1 damage to all minions, so I feel it'd be redundant. Was just trying to fill a gap in druid at having a good board clear.
Karsticles
Member
Seconding all of this,though apparently the turn timer is the same as HS. It feels longer, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iZNjfREMNw&nohtml5=False
Great in the ever so popular Day9's famous Reno Rogue deck.
Oh neat. I loved getting thistle tea in wow.
That's cool in a deck where all of your cards are worth duplicating. I see it in mill rogue, possibly.
Really high cost though, but it'll be alright w/ prep.
That'll be great in Rogue Control, lol.
Over costed as hell, should've been 5 mana.
Sounds like balancing around Preparation yet again.
At least Control Rogue got another tool. Though Rogue didn't need yet another card draw mechanic.
6 mana for getting what is normally an impossible amount of the same card in your deck, which has potential to be broken. But yeah, 6 is a lot to basically do nothing one turn and potentially whiff on like backstab (when you don't need it) or something.
It'll work in very particular decks, I think.
It's slightly less random than the cabalist's tome, so maybe that's why they added 1 more mana cost to it?
BananasWithGuns
Member
I don't understand why they costed it at 6 mana, especially when taking into consideration stuff like Nourish and Cabalist's Tome.
I dunno, card doesn't seem that good to me.
I dunno, card doesn't seem that good to me.
Acerac
Banned
Preparation. The other classes do not have it.
Granted, I kinda assumed prep was getting nerfed.
I don't believe in paying a premium for RNG shenanigans. In fact, I should be getting things for cheaper if it's unreliable. That's the whole point of variance, no?
Also this is more card counting shit like Reno. I thought they wanted to reduce mental complexity but this just increases it in a way that is utterly unappealing. I don't like having to open notepad to keep track of my cards because they can't be arsed to show my graveyard.
Which is why comparing it to other draw cards is a bit weird in my opinion. This one is all about value.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Even still, I don't like the idea of overcosting spells just because Preparation exists.
The classes aren't supposed to have equivalent quality card draw, but the trick is trying to have that occur while still making playable cards, which they often don't reach.
Nah, I think to much of Rogue's stuff is balanced around Prep being a 3 mana discount. It would be easier to just up the mana cost of some of their spells (Unlike Haly, I think Sprint is actually undercosted and should be 8 mana.)
This card would be good in a fatigue deck, which Blizard keeps pushing, but I don't think is strong enough yet. What would make this go from decent to amazing is if you had some way to set the top card of your deck (Or better yet, the order of the next 3 cards)
Xamtheking
Member
Thistle Tea could bring Leeroy Rogue back
Acerac
Banned
It's why I am expecting the nerf, honestly. I feel that prep has been the strongest contributing factor in making rogues tough to balance.
Sounds like we're on the same page.
Also, historically Rogue cards have been just "short" of efficient, but they're cheap and cycling happens often so we get around it by chaining cards together, or by triggering combos.
This triplication of my below-average-efficiency cards is not appealing at all.
This triplication of my below-average-efficiency cards is not appealing at all.
Oh yeah, there should be another card shown in about 90 minutes:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthston..._wog_card_to_be_revealed_next_monday_11_1200/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthston..._wog_card_to_be_revealed_next_monday_11_1200/
Dat Prep tax.
Hey, imagine in a world where Rogue could order their next 3 cards. Then Thistle Tea will be amazing!
Sadly we don't currently live in that world. You need some way to cheat in order to make this card good though. Right now the best thing you can do is wait till you hit fatigue, gang up, then play Thistle Tea to get another 2 copies of the card you copied for a total of 5. At the very least, this card should find a home in a Reno deck.
Or play a deck where regardless of what you tea, it'll provide some benefit to you. Easier said than done, but if every card is worth having 3 of in your hand, then it'll work.
Yeah I would like that myself. Right now Tracking is the closest. It is also the kind of mechanic that fits with Rogue thematically, since it is kind of like a sneaky cheating thing.
Super Nothing
Member
Shadowstep is better since it reduces the cost of playing multiple Leeroys. I guess you could copy Shadowstep, but that's too dependent on RNG.
If we had scry, my evaluation of Thistle Tea would be completely different, but we don't.
Scry is a very miserly, competitive-oriented mechanic intended to reduce variance and create incremental advantage, which is exactly what Blizzard doesn't like. Explosiveness, flashy upsets, soul crushing whiffs, that's the game that we play.
I watched Dog's video and he basically goes into how it doesn't work with any current Rogue deck, but fits a Control Rogue much better than Sprint because you don't want to get into fatigue.
Pretty much the same viewpoint as in here.
In the current meta he doesn't see it as competitive since Control Rogue is not functional and this won't do it by itself, so probably not a great Wild choice.
Pretty much the same viewpoint as in here.
In the current meta he doesn't see it as competitive since Control Rogue is not functional and this won't do it by itself, so probably not a great Wild choice.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
At least it isn't an epic.
I agree with the arguments for control... still pretty expensive to get card draw that can whiff pretty hard.
I agree with the arguments for control... still pretty expensive to get card draw that can whiff pretty hard.
He did mention Thistle Tea into C'Thun, which is kind of hilarious.
Blade Flurry is a pretty good board wipe. And Skulker can be clutch sometimes. But the hero power pushes it towards tempo and using health as a resource, and the combo mechanic pushes it towards explosive turns and finishers enabled by drawing a ton of cards, neither of which fit a control shell.
Super Nothing
Member
I feel like Gang Up would be more reliable for that since you can target it rather than just hoping you draw it when you play Thistletea. Or you could Shadowstep C'thun and play him for cheap the next turn. Both would probably give more consistent results.
Karsticles
Member
Rogue really needs Duelyst's Lantern Fox to become a fair class.
I am ready for the new Triple Van Cleef meta.