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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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What a rebut!
The rat has been very unkind to me. Pulled a Jade Behemoth and then an opponent pulled one of my minions on their turn after I played Doomsayer. Good tech card, but can be risky!
The Luck of the Eyerish.
Lagspike_exe
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Crafted Patches and Hobart. No regrets, the deck is stronger than mid range shaman.
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thepotatoman
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So, is Taunt Warrior now the slowest viable version of Warrior?
HearthArena's tier list based on 250,000 games.
Turns out Abyssal Enforcer, Kabal Talonpriest, and Potion of Madness are pretty good in arena.
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/...t-i-know-a-guy-stolen-goods-alley-armorsmith/
Gained 45 armor in a deck that doesn't run Justicar. I had two 5/7 Alley Armorsmiths that attacked multiple times each for 5 armor gain each time. It's an Nzoth control warrior with a few Taunt synergy cards thrown in, so I don't know if you classify that as Control or Taunt, but it seems viable and shits on aggro if you can get a good mulligan.
Yeah Priest definitely got some of the better tools this expansion. Will be interesting to see if it can remain that high after 2 weeks.
BananasWithGuns
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I really, really wonder how Jade Idol ever made it out of the concept phase.
How can we be 3 years into Hearthstone and Blizzard is still completely inept? It's mind blowing.
How can we be 3 years into Hearthstone and Blizzard is still completely inept? It's mind blowing.
HearthArena's tier list based on 250,000 games.
Surprised to see Warlock that high. I mean yeah Abyssal Enforcer is kinda broken in Arena but I would've expected Priest to be in that slot.
Beardo, Raza, Shadow form works well together...
Just won a game against Druid with board golems,
0 mana hero power (shadowform)
3 mana Beardo
0 mana hero
1 mana Powerword shield
0 mana hero
1 mana jade idol
0 mana hero
0 mana freeze potion
0 mana hero
Could have done more but, won game by then
Just won a game against Druid with board golems,
0 mana hero power (shadowform)
3 mana Beardo
0 mana hero
1 mana Powerword shield
0 mana hero
1 mana jade idol
0 mana hero
0 mana freeze potion
0 mana hero
Could have done more but, won game by then
jade idol should at least 2-3 mana imo
Abyssal Enforcer is situationally Dr. Boom levels of crazy. And in arena, that situation happens a lot. If you made Dr. Boom a common in one class I'd imagine you'd see similar results.
Priest was also bottom tier before. Warlock was higher up to start with. As good as Talonpriest and Potion of Madness are, I don't think you can expect them to carry the class from last to first.
BananasWithGuns
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Do you think Jade Druid is weak or something? It shits all over control decks.
They already did, it's Firelands Portal for Mage.
I think Abyssal Enforcer is even better than that in most cases but the damage to face is relevant when playing Warlock. People always rush you down in Arena.
In Constructed, I am very much liking Abyssal Enforcer, I think it's a keeper in Renolock. It's not that broken though but it's nice. Right now I am feeling it as a 4.5 / 5.
not my deck and its just a simple jade n'zoth shaman. nothing fancy or worth listing
BananasWithGuns
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Then either the ones you played sucked or drew poorly.
You're going to come around and give it 5/5 eventually. =)
Maybe but 5/5 is like Patches, Jade Idol, Darkonid type broken. Abyssal Enforcer doesn't feel as broken, just a very good card.
At least I wouldn't be on blast for it though. I always knew it would be good but I think with so many AOEs in Warlock it's possible to cut in certain metas. If this Pirate Warrior thing becomes super dominant then you might put Demonwrath back in.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Every expansion it seems like control warriors complain. Then some talented control warrior player makes a list and it just shows how bad people are at deck building or perhaps how difficult deck building is.
I think alley armorsmith is a really powerful card. It might not make a better deck than c'thun warrior though.
It's also not terribly difficult to play around a 7 mana 3 damage aoe and aggressive decks can take advantage of the self damage it causes. With hellfire you can even reno in the same turn. I think it's still a 4/5.
Mobius and pet octopus
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This is why pirate warrior is a strong deck. The more you warp your deck the worse it actually becomes in the overall meta.
Which is why I am playing dragon priest. You need to warp your deck the least there imo and you can still go the distance with control. I mean, between drakonid operative and netherspite historian you may actually end up with more late game bombs than they do.
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thepotatoman
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Ok, I'm liking hand buff warrior way better than hand buff paladin, at least for my playstyle.
You're actually rewarded for having a bunch of spells and weapons because it allows you to aim your buffs, unlike paladin where you want as many minions in hand as possible.
You're actually rewarded for having a bunch of spells and weapons because it allows you to aim your buffs, unlike paladin where you want as many minions in hand as possible.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I tried warrior. I will try more. I want to make a more midrange list, but I don't think it'll be better than dragon warrior so maybe it won't be relevant til next expansion.
I think between alley armorsmith and doppelgangster it has a lot of potential though. Maybe there is a list that can compete alongside dragon warrior. The other aspect is warrior's buffing weapons in hand, which is something paladin doesn't have access to.
Also the taunt buff is particularly powerful +3/+3. Pirate warrior can't beat that on alley I think!
Lagspike_exe
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10-4 with aggro pirate. Mid range shaman has been nerfed to oblivion.
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Rank 15. This is the most unbalanced deck ever.
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Rank 15. This is the most unbalanced deck ever.
Ah. Good to see them finally shaking in their boots. I had to fight a load of them back-to-back last season and this was just to get into rank 15 last season
(even more then freakin' shaman I thought by far)
Didnt see them for a little while after whenb I push up to 14 but I got distracted by other games like usual so stopped playing
Ah yes I am finding it much easier to get wins on my slightly modified tempo mage. only had 1 option slot that I could fit a Manic soulcaster. I'll eventually rotate it out and toss in something else (like volcanic potion)
nice!
Lagspike_exe
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Hobart has great potential for Control Warrior. It's a 2 mana card that perfectly fits the curve and most CWs are already running 2x Fiery Axes and Gorehowl, which would provide amazing value for those fatigue games.
Mobius and pet octopus
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First match of the day with taunt goons, vs pirate warrior huehue
It's probably not better than anyfin even though anyfin requires more cards. That's just my reaction to seeing a combo like that.
It's sorta like a combo with ET but I guess it's a bit better than that.
It could be okay but it does require you to have 3 specific legendary cards and basically an empty hand of minions to pull it off... and then even a bad card to pair with it all.
It's probably not better than anyfin even though anyfin requires more cards. That's just my reaction to seeing a combo like that.
It's sorta like a combo with ET but I guess it's a bit better than that.
It could be okay but it does require you to have 3 specific legendary cards and basically an empty hand of minions to pull it off... and then even a bad card to pair with it all.
ended up having to netdeck a jade miracle rogue. Really have to work on my deckbuilding skills... People had these decks developed before expansion released for goodness sakes
Granted the choices are obvious. Still not sure how good this deck is... I have my doubts. just beat a buff paladin.l I dunno.
man I could probably climb so much better if I just stuck with my high win rate decks but I get bored and want to exp[eriment all the time.
Granted the choices are obvious. Still not sure how good this deck is... I have my doubts. just beat a buff paladin.l I dunno.
man I could probably climb so much better if I just stuck with my high win rate decks but I get bored and want to exp[eriment all the time.
Nope, the card is very appropriately costed/stated. Should've been 10 mana in fact.
This card can break the game. Like imagine a Mage which has Flamestrike/Freezes/Blizzard type spells and combines with Greater Arcane Missiles to hit face with. That would be the most unfun deck to play against.
Sounds more fun and silly than freeze mage. At least then you can still get lucky and nail naggerstinker. And aoe still gets it. 5 mana 3/2 or 3/3 nogglefinkle would have been more fun.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I kinda wish mistress of mixtures was a 1/3 instead of 2/2. Would probably be a legitimate anti-aggro card.
At 5 mana you play it in a lot decks. If you're far behind on turn 5 that card seems like it could be the best thing to play.
At 5 mana you play it in a lot decks. If you're far behind on turn 5 that card seems like it could be the best thing to play.
Nah you don't want that. You don't want that at all.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think your PTSD is triggering you
Noggen isn't a yogg even at 5 mana. Would be way too common for the card effect though. It probably doesn't single handed turn a game at least. I think it's more of a defensive card to buy time than anything.
If you're far behind i don't see how mayor brings you back. Playing it as a sole minion against a big board is pointless. The first swing might miss him, still goes face. Second swing might miss him, still goes face. Third swing likely gets him.
Play it into an empty board and any minion specific spell kills him.
I dunno, I still think he is way weaker than loatheb at 5 mana.
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