How much dust do you have? I'd say wait if you're low, but if you're over 3k go for it. It's super fun.
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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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How much dust do you have? I'd say wait if you're low, but if you're over 3k go for it. It's super fun.
This is what I'm doubting... I don't even know if the reno type decks can survive without him...
I have... over 9000... but I still watch carefully in what I spend
for me it is the opposite, the warlock legendary is pretty bad, while Kun is really good, you can basically play him for free, and it fits very well the ramp druid archetype
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thepotatoman
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Maybe, but I think Dirty Rat is still pretty good exactly because of things like that. Either it's an aggro deck that Dirty Rat can be played turn 2 for defence, or it's a control deck where Dirty Rat can ruin combos.
I still believe that card's legit, at least until people start doing things like holding ragnoros in their opening hand.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Losing in Heroes then losing while in queue in HS too, not a good day.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Getting really frustrated tonight with pirate warrior. I played 5+ aggro pirate decks in a row. Switch to control warrior and queue into midrange hunter the first time today and maybe this expansion, twice in a row.
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I played like 4 non-pirate decks before I said fuck it... back to rogue... first up? Pirate warrior.
Also turn 1 finley hunter hero power. This happened 3 times in a row before I stopped playing rogue before to trade for warrior.
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I played like 4 non-pirate decks before I said fuck it... back to rogue... first up? Pirate warrior.
Also turn 1 finley hunter hero power. This happened 3 times in a row before I stopped playing rogue before to trade for warrior.
what problem does it have?
The order of the 2 effects is inconsistent. And it could cost you the game.
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thepotatoman
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There isn't a resolution phase in between the casting of the two effects, so if something like a damage spell and a transform spell is done on the same minion, it will always survive as the transformation, because the damage is always done to the minion pre-transformation, and there's no death check before it gets transformed.
I don't know where it's that meaningful though, other than having some 1/1 sheep survive when they maybe shouldn't.
Mobius and pet octopus
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From what I've seen is that it always orders to benefit your board side. Summon a minion and deal damage to all minions? Always deals damage then summons the minion. But when it's the opponent's side, it might freeze an already dead minion. Could be intentional, I haven't played enough with the card.
They said when it was revealed that ordering would happen in the most beneficial way. But who knows if they want the rng to exist like it does.
Freezing the minion you just killed stinks, and so does polymorphing it. Makes those choices much worse.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I don't recall them saying the ordering would be the most beneficial. Even in the reveal the freeze hit minions that had already died.
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thepotatoman
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The summoning of minions doesn't resolve until the damage is done because they're being done in the same phase. Likewise, the death of the minion doesn't resolve until after the random freeze is cast because it's done in the same phase.
I do remember them saying it'll always be ordered to benefit the caster of the spell, but I don't think that's how it works.
SodiumBenzoate
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Quite frankly I feel guilty even going into details, but I have been blessed with the most amazing RNG I have ever seen for my Pack openings for this expansion. I have gotten enough dust to craft every card with less than 240 packs purchased. The last legendary I needed, the final pack I opened had it in a golden version (Shaku the collector!). I don't know whose dick I sucked for that, but whatever Karma Debt I was owed definitely paid off this week.
BananasWithGuns
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I mean this from the bottom of my heart.
To the person who designed Drakonid Operative, I despise you.
To the person who designed Drakonid Operative, I despise you.
Could be the case for sure, I haven't actually used either of them yet. I'm also horrible at deck building and don't follow the meta or anything.
oh I think I saw something like that, at first the damage kills some minions, but if the second effect is freeze then it can freeze the death minions...
didn't know it was so widespread, I'm not sure if blizzard thinks this is something that needs to be fixed
They does say that, the aoe damage won't damage your summoned minion ever, the order always the best
and everyone already prove that
BananasWithGuns
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Guess my prediction about Jade Druid came true. Just build defensive with a ton of draw and that's all you need to do. A single card is enough to carry your late game.
Jade Druid is going to be tier 1 for a long, long time.
Jade Druid is going to be tier 1 for a long, long time.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think reynad's anyfin deck actually works pretty well against pirate warrior. It basically cuts the card draw to add all anti-aggro stuff. I beat 3 pirate warriors in a row pretty convincingly with it.
But now that I am against druid, I probably lose.
If you read what I said previously, I already acknowledged that it doesn't damage the minion you summon. That doesn't mean you're going to get the best results off RNG effects.
But now that I am against druid, I probably lose.
If you read what I said previously, I already acknowledged that it doesn't damage the minion you summon. That doesn't mean you're going to get the best results off RNG effects.
A lot of weird interactions that don't happen the way they should.
It's obvious that every combination of the potion was not tested. I hope they bug fix some of these interactions because they can decide games.
The only consistent thing is that AOE damage always seems to happen first.
BananasWithGuns
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Ah, dropping the Jinyu Waterspeaker and watching the Pirate Warrior concede.
No better feeling.
No better feeling.
I had a pirate warrior waste all his stuff killing my wickerflame 5 times, due to redemption and kodo escape secrets. Went from 4 hp back to full from it
Mobius and pet octopus
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So anyfin with mistress of mixtures, acidic swamp ooze, doomsayer, wickerflame... actually pretty good counter to pirate warrior I think. I haven't lost a game with it yet, but once matchmaking saw that I could win against pirate warrior it stopped queueing me against them. Excuse me while I adjust my tinfoil, seems to be a little ineffective. But not having the card draw makes most other match ups pretty painful. And I played a stupid mirror ffs, and he drew both anyfins before I drew my first one. And he even played his knowing that I could clear his board and play mine if I had one, guaranteeing me a win....
LyleLanley
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Mirror entity plus the new polymorph secret can be such a backbreaker.
Just watched Kripps jade Rogue video. I noticed something, that I have noticed in Kibblers videos as well.
It seems their animations play out a lot faster.
Something that bothers me the most about HS is how drawn out the animations are. Even playing a card seems slow. (And I am talking about lag)
Anyone know a way to boost the client speed? I have my settings on high so it's not that. (And my Pc is quiet good so not that either).
It seems their animations play out a lot faster.
Something that bothers me the most about HS is how drawn out the animations are. Even playing a card seems slow. (And I am talking about lag)
Anyone know a way to boost the client speed? I have my settings on high so it's not that. (And my Pc is quiet good so not that either).
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Discover bias is such bullshit with the priest dragon. Opponent plays brann netherspite historian drakonid operative in a single turn of course finds my tirion after previously having found Rag Lightlord. I lost the game with him at 5 and not having drawn either of mine
Well he look into the fucking deck, meanwhile you had to draw it
broken card bois
Welp got my easy rank 5 farming Pirate Warriors. The deck I was earlier mentioning that was good in the meta was Discard Zoolock because early minions like Voidwalker and taunters like Argus make it easy to contest the early board of Pirate Warrior, and you just throw in a Swamp Ooze for good measure. Plus it's also favored against Druid, and there are hardly any midrange Shamans on ladder.
However I also recently found that ye'olde Midrange Shaman is even easier winnings against Pirate Warrior and Druid, just replace Fire Elemental with Jinyu Waterspeaker and Harrison with Swamp Ooze.
However I also recently found that ye'olde Midrange Shaman is even easier winnings against Pirate Warrior and Druid, just replace Fire Elemental with Jinyu Waterspeaker and Harrison with Swamp Ooze.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/5gdhzx/kazakus_needs_to_be_fixed/darl4de/
Kazakus is getting fixed.
They already do.
Kazakus is getting fixed.
They already do.
Hey man, the Meta is moving fast, its hard to keep up with everything.
BananasWithGuns
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I think every deck in existence is running Ooze at this point.
How can you not?
How can you not?
best card get even better, aw yiss
Brian Griffin
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Been trying out Jade Druid and either I'm getting complete shit luck or I really suck at this game. I was at rank 16 and fell all the way to 20. Feels bad man.
I know the deck is powerful but it really feels like "get ramp on curve or die."
I know the deck is powerful but it really feels like "get ramp on curve or die."
MrPing1000
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Had some gold saved up thought I'd try some arenas.
Priest 0 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 61.7 tierscore * Mid-Rang
Shaman 4 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 64.6 tierscore * Mid-Range
Hunter 0 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 66.3 tierscore * Aggro-Control
Priest 3 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 70.1 tierscore * Mid-Range
Priest 2 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 65.8 tierscore * Attrition
Ugh I suck at this game. Maybe I should just stick to mage arena and turn my brain off.
First 11 packs of gadgetzan, 1 epic 11 rares. 9 cards (1 rare) to dust, joy.
Priest 0 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 61.7 tierscore * Mid-Rang
Shaman 4 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 64.6 tierscore * Mid-Range
Hunter 0 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 66.3 tierscore * Aggro-Control
Priest 3 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 70.1 tierscore * Mid-Range
Priest 2 - 3 Dec 4, 2016 65.8 tierscore * Attrition
Ugh I suck at this game. Maybe I should just stick to mage arena and turn my brain off.
First 11 packs of gadgetzan, 1 epic 11 rares. 9 cards (1 rare) to dust, joy.
You might want to try running a lower curve list, that's what a lot of streamers seem to be leaning towards at the moment.
The Wizard
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Priest arena is silly fun. I'm currently 8-2. MSG standouts include four Talonpriests, a Potion of Madness, a Drakonid OP (though with only one other dragon, he's mostly a pit fighter), and a Mistress of Mixtures (good fun even in the midgame thanks to Holy Champion). Also got an Entomb, an Excavated Evil, and a generally decent curve.
Edit: Spoke too soon. And so it ends, at 8-3. Turns out having Applesauce as two of your only four two-drops hurts sometimes.
Got 180 gold and a pack containing a Madam Goya. 400 dust, I suppose. Still a long ways off from Kazakus and Raza, but it's a start.
Edit: Spoke too soon. And so it ends, at 8-3. Turns out having Applesauce as two of your only four two-drops hurts sometimes.
Got 180 gold and a pack containing a Madam Goya. 400 dust, I suppose. Still a long ways off from Kazakus and Raza, but it's a start.
Just look at this guy's turn 1. This keeps happening.
He kept all in mulligan too, Yes, he shuffled it in the deck of course and drew all that instead of swipe and lost.
Druid isn't exactly complicated to play. It's probably closer to simpler ones actually... No wonder so many people in this game just band wagon on the dumbest decks like pirate warrior this quickly.
I'm guessing if you someone makes a Jade Druid guide or whatever it would be quite popular. lol
He kept all in mulligan too, Yes, he shuffled it in the deck of course and drew all that instead of swipe and lost.
Druid isn't exactly complicated to play. It's probably closer to simpler ones actually... No wonder so many people in this game just band wagon on the dumbest decks like pirate warrior this quickly.
I'm guessing if you someone makes a Jade Druid guide or whatever it would be quite popular. lol
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