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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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I should just quit now
*Imnotevenmad.gif*
Amazing, this is what gives me hope even when I'm opening just a single pack. Anything is possible.
Rogues had 2 Jade Commons plus all the Jade classes had Jade Spirit which had the same occurrence for them as class cards. So Rogue essentially had 3 COMMON Jade cards that if they had an occurrence bonus of 100% you could expect to draft 4-5 of them in a deck. And Jade Golems when buffed are really powerful in Arena.
So I could definitely see where they were coming from especially for Rogue. They expected Rogue to be really high in Arena because of the Jade mechanic but I guess it's a wash now.
But having 4-5 in a deck isn't good enough. You need to play 4-5 in an entire game for the mechanic to be good. You can only expect to get through a little over half your deck in arena.
I was not lucky enough to open one, so I crafted a golden one! Raza is well worth it I think
Mobius and pet octopus
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My only disappointment with aya compared to the other triclass legends is that aya absolutely must be played in the theme decks. While kazakus doesn't require any of the mechanics of the theme, and to a lesser extent don hancho. Can just run them in any deck.
RumblingRosco
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I see the same four decks on ladder at rank 12-17 in Standard: Jade Rogue, Jade Druid, Pirate Warrior, or Dragon Priest. I mean that has seriously been it over my last 10-20 games. I'm running Reno Mage so I guess that counts as a fifth. Maybe that's actually not so bad, but to me, it seems stale already, especially since Jade Rogue and Jade Druid have a lot of overlap.
I faced a Shaman in arena that had at least 2 Jade Claws, 4 Jade Chieftains, 3 Jade Lightnings and 1 Jade Spirit. The Jade bonus is ridiculous.
I have actually cut both Azure Drakes in my deck at the moment. Not sure if it's good yet, but in Reno dragon, I don't think you have a choice. You need slots. For regular, maybe you don't include Wrathion. Hard to justify that spot when you already have another Operative and Historian.
The Wizard
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Why the hell does 5 damage + polymorph a random enemy potion transform the minion I was targeting then do no damage to it? Feels bad to lose a game to a bug.
Blizzard's QA department on Hearthstone is either understaffed or terrible. Broken interactions seem to happen with every expansion. I mean, they aren't Bethesda levels of terrible, but it feels like bugs seem to affect Hearthstone more than any other Blizzard game I've played.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Seems like proper sequencing. The minion doesn't die until the spell fully resolves which transform the X/0 into a 1/1.
Midrange Jade Shaman is insane, loving it.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/686583-midrange-jade-lotus
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/686583-midrange-jade-lotus
Broke my break from Hearthstone after a day because I wanted to try stuff. Found a Netdeck Midrange Druid without the Jade crap and said farewell to my beloved tokens until someone figures something out.
In the one game I played I won against a Buffadin. Through pure luck though. Rag was smart. 25% to smorc and he did it. And he did good. My opponent topdecked Tirion which wasn't enough because I had enough burn in my hand. Sometimes one gets lucky.
In the one game I played I won against a Buffadin. Through pure luck though. Rag was smart. 25% to smorc and he did it. And he did good. My opponent topdecked Tirion which wasn't enough because I had enough burn in my hand. Sometimes one gets lucky.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I played a dragon priest mirror and my opp drakonid operative into drakonid operative two turns in a row
Keyser Soze
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Played 3 games with OTK Priest Combo - Sit Finley, Garrison Commander, Shadowform, Spawn of Shadows + Raza Effect.
Won 2 out of 3. The two I won resulted in angry friend request and insults. Yay.
That deck is annoying, so for once I dont blame them.
Gonna be sad when Garrison goes when TGT leaves Standard now.
Won 2 out of 3. The two I won resulted in angry friend request and insults. Yay.
That deck is annoying, so for once I dont blame them.
Gonna be sad when Garrison goes when TGT leaves Standard now.
RumblingRosco
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Hell, by the time you play it, you're probably seeing at least 13% of their deck. Late game you might be seeing 30%+.
Operative is more op tbh
That should probably be banned too.
thekillermuffin
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I shouldn't buy a ton more packs... buy I want Raza and Patches...
I guess Operatives is card that people like to see/watch
No one spam brokebacķ emote or crying broken to operative than like patches or jade druid
Too bad, it's Firebat's tournament and he's gonna do what he wants.
Drakonid Operative doesn't push out deck archetypes by itself. Patches and Jade Idol do. That's the main reasoning here. You can't play classic Control/Fatigue with Jade Idol in the meta and you can't play any deck that requires some time set up due to Patches Pirates.
I mean... okay. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have an opinion about it. It's not like I said he shouldn't do it or anything.
I don't like finger banning cards just because "I don't like them," but I guess he does whatever he wants.
I'm considering crafting patches now... is he too necessary in the pirate decks?
Well, the idea is to differentiate BatStone from its streaming competition, and Patches is over represented on Twitch at the moment. I don't think he's saying it's OP, just that he wants his tournament to be different.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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sure but unless you want to see zero rogue and everyone playing ooze, early taunts and such patches has to go.
I'm gonna bite to what Dahbomb said about Jade Idol.
I'm not sure what difference about Jade Idol to card like Jaraxxus and Doomcaller.. card that ensure you always win against control deck is always exist.. and Jade Idol is nothing special in this kind of regard.. shit Jarraxxus is better than ever now for killing particular style of deck thanks to how consistent reno deck with current card pool.. but you love jarraxxus but really dislike jade idol.
I'm not sure what difference about Jade Idol to card like Jaraxxus and Doomcaller.. card that ensure you always win against control deck is always exist.. and Jade Idol is nothing special in this kind of regard.. shit Jarraxxus is better than ever now for killing particular style of deck thanks to how consistent reno deck with current card pool.. but you love jarraxxus but really dislike jade idol.
Jaraxxus has a massive draw back.
You put yourself at 15 HP when you play it and it costs god damn 9 mana. In addition, Jaraxxus doesn't single handedly prevent you from dying to fatigue, it doesn't add cards to your deck. In addition, the Infernos cost 2 mana and are capped at 6/6 stats.
There's a massive skill requirement to playing Jaraxxus as well. Not everyone knows when and how to use the card. Though to be fair, a lot of people don't know how to use Jade Idol either.
In addition, you are comparing a 9 MANA LEGENDARY card to a 1 MANA RARE card. Shame on you son... shame on you!
On the issue of Doomcaller. Doomcaller alone doesn't do anything. You have to pair Doomcaller with Cthun and that means playing a bunch of mediocre/ok minions in your deck as well. And you need Brann and Emperor. That's a full combo right there. Cthun decks play like Combo Control. Jade Idol is a one card combo that beats out control/fatigue decks. Again... this comparison is terrible.
He said in stream that the ban list is generated by the players and not his personal choice.
Had 900 gold saved up before the expansion, so I picked up 9 packs + the 6 free ones. Gotta say I'm pretty happy with these pulls.
Golden Aya is like pulling a Golden Rag back in vanilla, congrats.
Conor_Fool
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Hoping for a quick response...
Say I use a Potion of Madness and then Recombobulator on the minion I'm taking control of. Would I keep the minion not that is was recombobulated (lol) or would it still go back to my opponent?
Say I use a Potion of Madness and then Recombobulator on the minion I'm taking control of. Would I keep the minion not that is was recombobulated (lol) or would it still go back to my opponent?
It's almost as if they knew it was a bad card that would never see play, so they didn't bother playtesting it.
Conor_Fool
Banned
Badass! Thanks!
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