Looks like a great deck; aoe, removal, draw, nice taunts, that said most of my decks hit 5 or 6 wins before the real decks show up. I think it can go the distance though.
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Looks like a great deck; aoe, removal, draw, nice taunts, that said most of my decks hit 5 or 6 wins before the real decks show up. I think it can go the distance though.
How are you looking to use it mostly?
On curve against aggressive and with a board wipe late against control? Saving brann for it?
And right after we had a game winning Dirty Rat...
We now had a GAME LOSING Dirty Rat!
There's no easy catch all way to use Dirty Rat. It's match up and situation dependent along with how the game has progressing.
We now had a GAME LOSING Dirty Rat!
Always situation dependent based on opponent's hand. So you have to have the read on the opponent.
There's no easy catch all way to use Dirty Rat. It's match up and situation dependent along with how the game has progressing.
Kabal Talonpriest is insane an arena. Anytime you can curve a 2 drop into Kabal Talonpriest and kill an opposing minion without losing your 2-drop, you've probably won that game. You've got Potion of Madness and SW
to potentially lock down the board after winning that early game as well.slightconfuse
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Omg VLPS is missing lethal
Hahaha
Hahaha
Mobius and pet octopus
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Would have been pretty dumb to see the game determined by RNG like that. I am glad he missed lethal.
e:lmao what a stream
e:lmao what a stream
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Lololol it was reversed
JJ missed lethal
JJ missed lethal
Ben Brode has been promoted to game director of Hearthstone:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-brode-8819411
https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/806047911997894656
This happened in November shortly before Blizzard's jobs for their new first person game went up, so I suspect Eric Dodds went over to that, though it's possible he left the company.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-brode-8819411
https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/806047911997894656
This happened in November shortly before Blizzard's jobs for their new first person game went up, so I suspect Eric Dodds went over to that, though it's possible he left the company.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Should I put doomsayers in Taunt Warrior
I don't have any 1-2 mana minions with taunt in it besides dirty rat and I like living extra turns
I don't have any 1-2 mana minions with taunt in it besides dirty rat and I like living extra turns
Public defender could work if you have some buffs.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It's basically the best defensive 2 drop in the game, so... probably. The 2 mana taunt might work too. Or acidic ooze if not armorsmith. I think acidic ooze > public defender. Gotta figure out what works best for what you aim to beat.
A few personal thoughts based on the live reaper report.
These numbers only represent a 24 hour overview across all ranks.
Shaman still the king, but only by a few points.
Warrior definitely going to be tier 1.
Warlock potential Tier 1 or top of Tier 2.
Priest not looking Tier 1 material based on this, but certainly a great meta call if you aren't seeing a lot of warlock and druid.
Druid looking surprisingly weak despite all the Jade idol concerns (which are valid btw). I was expecting it to be over 0.51
Paladin is garbage tier. I was hoping this wouldn't be the case, but there it is.
Rogue struggling, but has some great match-ups vs. Druid and Priest. Explains why I had some great winstreaks, but hit a brick wall on aggro warrior and shamans. Although pirate rogue can actually outrace warrior in some cases.
These numbers only represent a 24 hour overview across all ranks.
Shaman still the king, but only by a few points.
Warrior definitely going to be tier 1.
Warlock potential Tier 1 or top of Tier 2.
Priest not looking Tier 1 material based on this, but certainly a great meta call if you aren't seeing a lot of warlock and druid.
Druid looking surprisingly weak despite all the Jade idol concerns (which are valid btw). I was expecting it to be over 0.51
Paladin is garbage tier. I was hoping this wouldn't be the case, but there it is.
Rogue struggling, but has some great match-ups vs. Druid and Priest. Explains why I had some great winstreaks, but hit a brick wall on aggro warrior and shamans. Although pirate rogue can actually outrace warrior in some cases.
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Reno Dragon Preist has been a lot of fun. I took one of Thijs's decks and tweaked it a bit to take out card draw and add win conditions. Each game is wildly different. Probably the most broken win I've had so far was against a Jade druid that I alexstrasza'd on turn 6 after picking up 2 intervates.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I've been testing an alternative to the miracle rogue style jade golem deck. Dunno how it compares since I haven't actually tried miracle rogue jade golem, but this seems to be doing okay so far.
Renolock of course. Hardly any Zoo on ladder.
LUL bringing demon package Renolock. Krul sucks boys. Get punished.
The vast majority of warlocks I face or see on streams are Reno Warlocks. I always mulligan for the Reno match-up these days, which means I'd be on the backfoot if I ever do queue into zoo.
Renolock. With a lot of streamers including Reynad hitting #1 legend with Reno and having a positive winrate vs. Shaman and decent match-ups across the field should make it a popular choice.
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Combining Token Druid with Jade Golem Druid is really, really good. Violet Teacher/Power of the Wild/Mark of the Lotus adds a lot to the early game, and Jade Golems do happen to be token cards.
I think Raven Idol + Arcane Giant puts a little too much into the late game when you're good on late game as it is. And Feral Rage is kinda weak in general. Those cards can make room for the token cards.
Here's the decklist I'm currently working with:
Decklist
Would want to make room for heals if there's more aggro than what I'm seeing.
I think Raven Idol + Arcane Giant puts a little too much into the late game when you're good on late game as it is. And Feral Rage is kinda weak in general. Those cards can make room for the token cards.
Here's the decklist I'm currently working with:
Decklist
Would want to make room for heals if there's more aggro than what I'm seeing.
More like playing Krul means you have to play some mediocre, anti synergy demon cards instead of solid anti aggro/tempo cards. And then if you play Krul for tempo and it gets answered you lose the game.
I was making a comparison to the other Reno decks. Reno Priest has Raza and Reno Mage has Inkmaster Solia. So Reno Priest and Reno Mage have three Highlander legendaries while Renolock only plays two and skips Krul. Despite that, Renolock actually seems to be doing better than the other two because Renolock more consistently draws into Reno. The fact that it has fewer cards that synergize with the highlander mechanic does not weaken the deck compared to Reno Priest or Reno Mage.
It's because the other Warlock cards are so good for Renolock and the neutral tech options help out Renolock the most.
Mistress of Mixtures helps Renolock the most.
Same for Dirty Rat and Second Rate Bruiser.
The Courier/Chemist are great for Renolock too because you can get single target removals and heal which you generally lacks.
Blastcrystal Potion allows Warlock to tempo out in the late game with a removal which they never really had before.
Felfire Potion allows them to win against Midrange.
Abyssal Enforcer is just an all around powerful card.
I think with a Renolock meta, Paladins have to start running Divine Favor decks and other decks have to start looking at that 6/6 charger. Freeze Mage still a solid option against Renolocks.
Not to dispute the idea that Renolock doesn't have powerful cards in it, but in terms of board clears and single target removals, Mage and Priest generally have it better. So I don't think the reason that Renolock can be called better than Mage or Priest is because of cards like Blastcrystal Potion or Felfire Potion. Priest and Mage can already do these things, and they arguably do them better. So I feel the power is more likely to come from the consistency of the Warlock hero power, which is sort of why Renolock became the original default Reno deck in the first place.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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what boarclears does priest have? The potion is so funny in the mirror.
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hard to get Solia to work when you hardly have any spells as a renomage. And worse- the casino spells can award you a dupe such as a torch and cause reno to fail. Had this happen in a friendly match with a buddy
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
This ended with me getting swiped and ded
If I had a second bolster I would have won.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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even worse than consecrateHoly nova
oh yeah forgot that one but aren't priests scared to run this in case of a mirror?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Don't underestimate holy nova. That card can be incredibly strong tempo push and even combos with NSC to draw a lot of cards which can be tough for priest to do.
platypotamus
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That doesn't seem possible. How did the dupe spells end up in your deck rather than in your hand?
There was a Torch I never pulled out my deck. Casino tome gives me another torch. I didnt think- I used that second 3/3 torch or what might've happen I already used the 3/3 torch. And when i used the 2nd 3/3 torch I got 2 identical 3/6 torches
need to go back review replay
[edit] speaking of solia just had a nice long match where I got a chance to Brann + Kazakus to get 2 pots. Next Solia + Manic caster to dupe her. Used Solia to cast 2 x 10 mana pots. that was fun. probably not competitive just testing in Casual before bringing it to ranked.
need to go back review replay
[edit] speaking of solia just had a nice long match where I got a chance to Brann + Kazakus to get 2 pots. Next Solia + Manic caster to dupe her. Used Solia to cast 2 x 10 mana pots. that was fun. probably not competitive just testing in Casual before bringing it to ranked.
platypotamus
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Ah, forgotten torches. Fitting that I forgot about that possibility. That was probably it.
Matchmaking is rigged everyday.
(Actually I had a string of favorable match-ups this morning but that doesn't feed into my confirmation bias so lets ignore those.)
As of this moment the only three classes with an overall positive win-rate on ladder (via VSS data reaper live over the last 24 hours) are Shaman, Warrior, and Warlock (in that order). Paladin is by far the worst class in the sample.
I wish we knew if that was Aggro or the new midrange list that is getting Shaman its wins.
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