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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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This renolock throws away his ooze the turn before I can play doomhammer then has to Brann + Sewer Ooze to take off 2 uses.
It has some ridiculous burst that doesn't require you to be at 12 life.
According to the Data Reaper LIVE, looks like Pirate Warrior numbers are dwindling at higher ranks. Getting pushed out by the superior aggro deck... Aggro Shaman.
Those 4 mana 7/7 memes are relevant again!
It has some ridiculous burst that doesn't require you to be at 12 life.
Yeah, I ran into that one time a couple days ago. Turns out Red Mana Wyrm is actually pretty dangerous in Rogue.Two things I just learned:
1. Red Mana Wyrm Rogue is bullshit.
. . .2. With Fengdral out, you can't cast Starfall against a board of stealthed minions.
Huh. I hadn't thought about that.
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Calling ooze a dead play is harsh. A 2 mana 3/2 isn't useless.
Ok. Might have been harsh by me, but that's more about how good the other decks are currently.
Plus while a 2 mana 3/2 body in an of itself isn't bad it means you used up a card slot or two vs running something that has better deck synergy.
Peléo;226174693 said:Just played against a Jade Druid who went Turn 1: Jade Idol - Shuffle 3 copies into your deck. Turn 2: Jade Idol - Shuffle 3 copies into your hand.
He lost the game. Rank 15.
These are the people who put Prince Malchezaar into all of their decks.
The Wizard
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I've been finding giant helpful in pressuring jade idol druid early. If I give them space they'll grow too quickly for me to deal with them but if their turn is focused on responding to me I usually win. I don't have Leeroy though so I'm sure that would help that match up too.I usually feel there isn't a good enough reason for including Mountain Giant outside of legacy reasons.
Peléo;226174693 said:Just played against a Jade Druid who went Turn 1: Jade Idol - Shuffle 3 copies into your deck. Turn 2: Jade Idol - Shuffle 3 copies into your hand.
He lost the game. Rank 15.
Yep. That is a straight up bonehead move. Shuffling into your deck is the thing that has the potential when you draw it late to be game breaking, but before turn 10? You slam that thing down as a 1/1 or 2/2 or whatever unless you have Auctioneer out and can expect to draw a ton of cards this turn.
Yep. That is a straight up bonehead move. Shuffling into your deck is the thing that has the potential when you draw it late to be game breaking, but before turn 10? You slam that thing down as a 1/1 or 2/2 or whatever unless you have Auctioneer out and can expect to draw a ton of cards this turn.
I always play the first card and shuffle the second.
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thepotatoman
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Tried out Anyfin Paladin.
Pros:
- Finja is a really strong turn that also activates anyfin very quickly.
- Grimstreet Informant gives another chance for additional anyfins
- Burnbristle is great anti aggro
Cons:
- Getting multiple equality combos is essential against all the Jade Golems and Dragon Priests
- Finja dilutes the pool of charge damage quite a bit for the 2nd and 3rd anyfins.
Sadly, I think there's too much powercreep and not enough upgrades for anyfin to be viable anymore.
Pros:
- Finja is a really strong turn that also activates anyfin very quickly.
- Grimstreet Informant gives another chance for additional anyfins
- Burnbristle is great anti aggro
Cons:
- Getting multiple equality combos is essential against all the Jade Golems and Dragon Priests
- Finja dilutes the pool of charge damage quite a bit for the 2nd and 3rd anyfins.
Sadly, I think there's too much powercreep and not enough upgrades for anyfin to be viable anymore.
I always play the first card and shuffle the second.
It's fine to shuffle the second against control but you don't want to do that too early, either. Better to do that in the late game when your jade idols are much larger and the difference between a single Jade Idol and a larger effect like a Jade Spirit or Jade Behemoth is not great.
If you're up against an aggressive deck, it's probably better to play both of them and never shuffle. Tempo too important in aggressive matchups to pray for extended value into the late game.
Brawl is deathrattles activate twice.
Egg druid and tempo rogue seem op in this.
It's all about that Dreadsteed.
Also, Hunter would be pretty good. Kindly Grandmother, Rat Pack, Infested Wolf. Hunter didn't really have these options the last time we did this brawl I think.
Edit: Also Shaky Zipgunner.
These are the people who put Prince Malchezaar into all of their decks.
Yep. That is a straight up bonehead move. Shuffling into your deck is the thing that has the potential when you draw it late to be game breaking, but before turn 10? You slam that thing down as a 1/1 or 2/2 or whatever unless you have Auctioneer out and can expect to draw a ton of cards this turn.
Yes, it's essentially a combo card with Auctioneer or sometimes Fandral if you really need the board presence. Late game it starts getting better, but early to mid you don't want to be drawing (1) 2/2 instead of Swipe of Drake.
I always play the first card and shuffle the second.
I normally only play the first on turn 1 against Aggro or if I need to buff my Jade Blossom or Jade Behemoth against other mid-range decks. But I haven't played a lot yet with the deck, probably around 40 matches so I'm still discovering the best to play.
slightconfuse
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You need to get the Jade 1/1 and 2/2 out as fast as you cN that way spirt N's behemoth get better .
Then you shuffle for late game
Then you shuffle for late game
What do you guys think about the arena tiers after the expansion? Seems worrier gets a lot stronger with weapon buffs.
HearthArena have put out some stats recently and Warlock and Priest got huge buffs. Warlock was #1 and Priest was tied for #2 with Mage and Rogue. Otherwise the rankings stayed mostly the same.
All the Kabal classes are top 3.What do you guys think about the arena tiers after the expansion? Seems worrier gets a lot stronger with weapon buffs.
Rogue, Paladin and Shaman in the middle.
Druid, Warrior and Hunter bottom 3.
Those Warrior buffs don't matter that much as they lose you tempo the turn you play them and tempo is everything for Warriors in Arena. And the good weapon buff card is a rare. Warrior got an abysmal common card for Arena.
HearthArena have put out some stats recently and Warlock and Priest got huge buffs. Warlock was #1 and Priest was tied for #2 with Mage and Rogue. Otherwise the rankings stayed mostly the same.
Interesting, have the link? Warlock gets two aoe (Abyssal Enforcer and Felfire), but is it really that good now?
Still need to finish two runs from before the expansion, hehe, fun time ahead.
Interesting, have the link? Warlock gets two aoe (Abyssal Enforcer and Felfire), but is it really that good now?
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthston...a_an_msg_arena_class/?st=iwf7ag2o&sh=9494c896
Abyssal Enforcer is opieopie in arena. HearthArena's pre-release tierscore was probably too low for this card and they will need to adjust. Rares and above are usually negligible in the arena meta, Commons have much, much more impact.
Warlock also got a single target removal in Blastcrystal Potion which they never really had in the Arena before. Combined with the two AOEs, it's a paradigm shift on how you play Warlock in the Arena.Interesting, have the link? Warlock gets two aoe (Abyssal Enforcer and Felfire), but is it really that good now?
Still need to finish two runs from before the expansion, hehe, fun time ahead.
You use to win against Warlocks by presenting a big threat and hedging against Siphon Soul which was a rare. Nowadays they can remove that as well as your small stuff with Abyssal Enforcer.
Warlock also got a single target removal in Blastcrystal Potion which they never really had in the Arena before. Combined with the two AOEs, it's a paradigm shift on how you play Warlock in the Arena.
Forgot that one, one rare removal is always good. On the other note, poor hunter, when can they get a break? Also, I am still waiting for the arena patch Blizzard promised. Hope we can hear something before the meta settles to endless "I greet you..."
Hopefully Hunter will never be the best in Hearthstone because that's when Hearthstone will be at its worst.
FTFY
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Undertaker?
slightconfuse
Banned
Been trying out Jade rouge. It's a wierd deck that will probably be folded into miracle dome how
Warlock also got a single target removal in Blastcrystal Potion which they never really had in the Arena before. Combined with the two AOEs, it's a paradigm shift on how you play Warlock in the Arena.
You use to win against Warlocks by presenting a big threat and hedging against Siphon Soul which was a rare. Nowadays they can remove that as well as your small stuff with Abyssal Enforcer.
I hadn't thought about this but you're right. Abyssal Enforcer being the common makes warlock quite scary in Arena. And with the bonus occurences for Blastcrystal anf Enforcer giving them hard removal and late game threats, they are really scary in arena atm.
Remember: Muster for Battle had the highest win rate when played on curve out of any card in the history of Hearthstone according to Blizzard.you play n'zoth first mate turn 1, it's essentially a better muster for battle on turn 1 with patches. How they thought this is ok to print.
Lone_Prodigy
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Had one game with Pirate Warrior where the opposing Shaman Hexed his own minions to save himself. It almost worked too.
BananasWithGuns
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Had one game with Pirate Warrior where the opposing Shaman Hexed his own minions to save himself. It almost worked too.
It's the best use of Hex in the matchup honestly. It's won me a few games getting them to burn weapon charges on frogs.
I queued up for a random game of Wild... Rank 25 mind you...
Opponent on turn 1 coins out Mind Blast.
Oh boy.
Well, I've been there. (the Mind Blast side)
I queued up for a random game of Wild... Rank 25 mind you...
Opponent on turn 1 coins out Mind Blast.
Oh boy.
I love games like that. I find it so fun. Make silly plays to make for a good fun game in response to their ridiculous plays.
LyleLanley
Banned
I hate playing against Jade decks.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Does Reno Lock ever not have Reno on 6 and AoE on 7? Then kill you with Leroy at 10
The effect is already active (before playing Baron) and does not stack. Same as playing a second Brann.edit: FYI, Baron Rivendare doesn't do shit.
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thepotatoman
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Remember: Muster for Battle had the highest win rate when played on curve out of any card in the history of Hearthstone according to Blizzard.
At least the deck as a whole is not as good as some of those decks with muster for battle.
I just hope Blizzard is done printing good pirate cards.
Gipsy Danger
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Any EU players on just now that I can spectate for a daily? Just need to spectate a friend winning.
Battle tag is Launchpad#21810
Battle tag is Launchpad#21810
Karsticles
Member
I hated the mechanic the day it was revealed, but for some reason a lot of folks think it's really interesting. I expect their tunes to change within the next month.I hate playing against Jade decks.
I hated the mechanic the day it was revealed, but for some reason a lot of folks think it's really interesting. I expect their tunes to change within the next month.
I love it... and I got wrecked by them too.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Jade decks are fun and we need a strong counter to control, especially control decks that never actually try to contest the board with their own minions or sometimes even try to win the game except in fatigue. But as we've seen, control still thrives regardless so it's not like jade makes control extinct and it's not even close to that.
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