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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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It depends on how you feel about them. Are you missing any absolutely essential rares from Classic? Stuff like Azure Drake? If so, I'd continue to buy classic packs. If not, then I'd continue to buy from the set that has the least percentage chance of pulling duplicates, so in your case GAD.
Edit: Just want to make clear that this is just my methodology, and it's thoughtful but I didn't mathematically prove it to be sound or anything. It's just my approach, having a similar viewpoint of trying to be a good all-arounder.
Hopefully not. I have crafted a ton of cards like Cairne, Malygos, and Ysera that are fairly niche and only occasionally used just because I expected them to stay in play.
Against pirate warrior just play it early and hope the minion it pulls is small or able to be dealt with. Against control or shaman play it when you have a way to deal with the worst case scenario.
Lagspike_exe
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You trigger it when you think your opponent has something good in his hand.
If the board is clear, dirty rat --> doomsayer.
If the board is full, add frost nova after doomsayer. Also, it's good having a fireball in your hand as a hedge if your opponent kills the doomsayer.
Do Reno Mages run MCT?
MCT/Fireball/Doomsayer/Polymorph/Flamestrike
Frequently I will play it when I have board control and some removal. That was I can ensure whatever drops, dies.
yesterday I was against a player which played dirty rat on turn 2, instantly concedes after the Dirty Rat pulls my Ragnaros..
now I made a better play today with a good board and pulled my Dirty Rat on turn 8, pulled the opponents rogue Reno and then I killed it, then the rogue concedes.
now I made a better play today with a good board and pulled my Dirty Rat on turn 8, pulled the opponents rogue Reno and then I killed it, then the rogue concedes.
I really don't think Rag or Sylvanas would get changed or moved at this point. I could easily see Alexstrasza move over to Wild only though, the card makes uninteractive 2 turn kills a thing Blizard has to constantly worry about when printing new cards.
Has Alex really been played much besides in Freeze/Reno Mage? That's not a card I started seeing on a regular basis until recently. Granted I have only played since WOTOG released.
Lone_Prodigy
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I just keep running into Reno decks on ladder. I should just concede if I'm not using an aggro deck.
Although, I did manage to barely beat a Reno Dragon Priest because Ivory Knight gave me a third Anyfin.
Although, I did manage to barely beat a Reno Dragon Priest because Ivory Knight gave me a third Anyfin.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Issue is freeze mage plays almost exclusively classic cards. Losing emperor might finally make the deck less BS.
what can you tech when u gonna lose on turn 5 lol
they already tech ships cannon for more power too lol
turn two with coin
ship cannon nzoth mate with patches coming. That's 6 damage incoming
turn 4 death spike so no need to play arcanite too
good luck with your tech cards
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Ship's cannon is stupid incarnate with Patches.
Is freeze mage still competitive?
Yeah anyone who thinks Pirate Warrior or Pirates in general are bad, needs to come to Wild and see how it really goes. Ship's Cannon is NUTS with Patches & co. Lots of fun to play though, IMO. Its a strong Aggro deck that isn't going face 100% of the time (though if your Ship's Cannon shots are on point that is what you'll be doing), but will want to mostly. Remove important minions in the first turn or two and build up your board. Then dump your pirates with the cannon and watch the flames. Good times.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Up till Gadgetzan it was and once Doomsayer can't be killed on turn 2 and Reno rotates it might just make a return.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I just remembered I got into smite tactics. Gonna give it a shot.
I think it's a postive thing for the game. It's one of the most skillful cards in the game at the moment. It has interesting decisions for when to use it, when to keep it in mulligans and what to do after you play it. It's definitely one of my favorite cards in the game atm. If only it was worth running outside of Reno decks. I just can't ever justify it in stuff like Dragon Priest (already crushing Renos most of the time, thanks DrakOP), or faster decks since you can't afford to give your opponent anything even if it's small or important.
They've sort of been toying with the idea before, like Curse of Rafaam or Ancestor's Call.
Also, this may sort of be a weird idea, but I think the flavor of the card being called "Dirty Rat" kinda helps as well. It's sort of like the game is giving a wink and a nod to how mean it can be and so you can direct your anger at the card's avatar (you dirty rat!) rather than your opponent.
I'm playing pre gadgetzan maly druid without a single new card, I'm pretty sure it's better than Kun/Aviana meme deck. Almost rank 5, very painless climbing. Turns out arcane giants and raven idols are still pretty good. I'm playing 2x druid of the claws, 2x war. I don't have much problem against aggro, it's very manageable. Rogue is hard. Reno or priest any kind, free win.
I think tempo mage is also really good, it was always extremely good against renolock and arcane missiles should be against pirates. Another deck people just stopped playing because lol new cards. Meta changes are dumb, it's not all that much about power level rather than what's the flavor of the month.
I think tempo mage is also really good, it was always extremely good against renolock and arcane missiles should be against pirates. Another deck people just stopped playing because lol new cards. Meta changes are dumb, it's not all that much about power level rather than what's the flavor of the month.
This phase in the game is really weird because we don't have a lot of big tournaments coming up and people are already looking towards the 2017 rotation. There has been very little experimentation in general, people kinda just chose sides with Pirates and Reno with the occasional Jade.
I also believe those decks are very strong, been saying that since Renolock became popular but I also think you are over selling their efficiency against Patches deck a bit. Patches decks still are favored against Combo Druid and Tempo Mage no matter the tech.
Lone_Prodigy
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What's Hunter like in Standard nowadays? Bottom tier? I got Knuckles from a pack.
tempo mage is great against rogue, you just burn them down. why people don't play it lol. It has so many good match ups right now.
According to vicious syndicate it has a lot of absolutely horrible matchups including most of the meta.
Because you still lose to Aggro Shaman and Aggro Warrior. And the more you tech against Patches deck the more you give up your edge against Reno decks (and vice versa).
Still a good deck overall to ladder with.
Interfectum
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It's awesome if you have it in your hand when your opponent plays Doomsayer.
Problem with Knuckles is that he is too slow for the current meta. He was pretty useful when I Burgled and reduced him and a tundra rhino though. Used that + Bestial wrath to destroy a highmane and did 6 in the process.
But he is designed as an aggressive card. Like an aggro version of the 2/7 warrior armor card.
Problem is he is so so slow and will often not have any impact beyond a vanilla 3/7 minion.
He isn't costed very well either.
It should have been any damage he deals goes to face. Not only when he attacks.
Not really. He's designed to stick to the board for several turns and kill small things. He splits the difference between aggression and board control. That makes him more like a midrange card. So he's too slow to deal with decks running PPP but he's not aggressive enough against Reno decks because Reno decks usually aren't plopping down wienies to get traded against in the mid-game. So he's a very poor fit in the current meta.
A card with Knuckles text would need to have charge, otherwise it is just a badly distributed pile of stats. They have a card like that in shadowverse, it's very good in midrange decks. It cost 8 though, can't hit face on the turn he's played and has the poison effect, it kills everything it hits.
That sounds like Maexxna with Charge?
I love Dirty Rat, I'm just surprised at its existence.
Dirty Rat plays are my favorite part of the game right now.
BannedEpisode
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This game has issues but pulling a golden legendary makes it worth it. Pulled a golden Rag yesterday (already bragged about it) and I'm still pretty pumped about it, first pack I ever opened was a golden Leeroy.
What are the odds on a golden legend in general?
What are the odds on a golden legend in general?
Very low. I think it's around 0.1%?
Reno would not enter classic set
Glad they clarified it now, i guess they have plans for aggro.
I wish they add/swap some class cards into certain classes like priest (Worst classic set in the game).
Glad they clarified it now, i guess they have plans for aggro.
I wish they add/swap some class cards into certain classes like priest (Worst classic set in the game).
Mobius and pet octopus
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wants reno permanently
then asks for molten giant back
It wasn't even a question whether reno would rotate or not tbh.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think it would be great if they brought some cards back temporarily, even shorter than a year, and made them free to use during those periods.
kind of sad to me... reno style decks are a lot weaker withouth Reno inside.
May be on next expansions we will see a different kind of reno
Lone_Prodigy
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Lowest cost is probably Zoolock: requires no legendaries (Leeroy is debatable).
Easy to play? No such thing. You need to think about your hand, your opponents' hand, the board, HP, mana, remaining cards in your deck, etc.
I think, though, if you can get a win rate over 50% with a deck, it is possible to grind your way to a high rank by sheer volume, because you're rewarded for winning streaks and not punished for losing streaks.
cards like Reno are exactly what you don't want to have in core set. It just dictates the meta game.
yeah but it hits face too like Knuckles.
yeah but it hits face too like Knuckles.
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