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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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Mobius and pet octopus
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It's sort of a sea giant role, except instead of requiring board you need discards to hit it. I think that won't be hard to do.
I think jeweled mccaw is a good card. I thought webspinner was good when people were talking it down too. But top in this set? I doubt it.
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mccaw is a 4 to me. So i fall along the median of the gaf review. I just don't think it's a 5.
I think jeweled mccaw is a good card. I thought webspinner was good when people were talking it down too. But top in this set? I doubt it.
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mccaw is a 4 to me. So i fall along the median of the gaf review. I just don't think it's a 5.
Karsticles
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Does anyone know if the Amazon App Store updated their Hearthstone version so I can preorder? :-/
IMO these are the desirable Epics of the set:
Primordial Drake (1 of inclusion in some control decks)
Blazecaller (potentially up to 2 inclusions in Elemental decks)
Stone Sentinel (competes with Blazecaller but you can still slot one of these in)
Meteor (powerhouse Mage board clear/removal but you probably only need one of these)
Bittertide Hydra (aggressive Beast decks, could potentially use two of these)
Vilespine Slayer (strong card for Rogue decks)
Gentle Megasaur (strong card for Murloc decks)
Gluttonous Ooze (strong one of tech option against Pirates)
Dinomancy (potential card in Midrange Hunter)
Primordial Glyph (usable in Quest Mage)
Stampede (beast draw engine for Hunter)
Around 10ish Epics, some you need two of. About 5000-6000 Dust right there if all of them end up being usable.
Compare with MSG:
Dragonfire Potion
Burgly Bully
Dirty Rat
Sleep with the Fishes
Rat Pack
Manic Soulcaster
That's it.. .LMAO!
Old Gods:
Call of the Wild
Whispers of the Old Gods
Hammer of Twilight
Cabalist's Tome
Faceless Shambler
Forbidden Healing
Forbidden Flame
Twilight Summoner
Primordial Drake (1 of inclusion in some control decks)
Blazecaller (potentially up to 2 inclusions in Elemental decks)
Stone Sentinel (competes with Blazecaller but you can still slot one of these in)
Meteor (powerhouse Mage board clear/removal but you probably only need one of these)
Bittertide Hydra (aggressive Beast decks, could potentially use two of these)
Vilespine Slayer (strong card for Rogue decks)
Gentle Megasaur (strong card for Murloc decks)
Gluttonous Ooze (strong one of tech option against Pirates)
Dinomancy (potential card in Midrange Hunter)
Primordial Glyph (usable in Quest Mage)
Stampede (beast draw engine for Hunter)
Around 10ish Epics, some you need two of. About 5000-6000 Dust right there if all of them end up being usable.
Compare with MSG:
Dragonfire Potion
Burgly Bully
Dirty Rat
Sleep with the Fishes
Rat Pack
Manic Soulcaster
That's it.. .LMAO!
Old Gods:
Call of the Wild
Whispers of the Old Gods
Hammer of Twilight
Cabalist's Tome
Faceless Shambler
Forbidden Healing
Forbidden Flame
Twilight Summoner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfoVQTrd6g
I mean even without the Brann, Volcanosaur seems like a pretty nice minion here.
I mean even without the Brann, Volcanosaur seems like a pretty nice minion here.
I think the deck I'm most looking forward to when release hits is Elemental... something. Shaman will probably be most powerful but I'm curious of mage with it too. Although Tar Creeper into Stoneshaper is so damn good against aggro I think that might be the 'pirate package' answer for midrange and control decks this expac.
The neutral 'elemental package' that can make any deck much better vs aggro.
The neutral 'elemental package' that can make any deck much better vs aggro.
Karsticles
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I want to experiment with Dreadsteed in a Discard deck - bring it back with that Dinomancer.
I always buy each set until I get a legendary so I can max out my value.
I use a spell that is basically "RNG Spell Mage" with some tempo stuff mixed in, and I have a positive winrate against most decks. I'm going to try making it "RNG Reno Spell Mage" to increase my survivability even more. I feel like Mage needs some new draw cards though.
In my experience, randomly generated spells are almost always great. Ice Lance and Shatter are the only two I grumble about. Everything else is solid.
No, I will continue to get Gadgetzan packs because my pity timer is SO close I feel. I must have gotten 30 packs without anything.
I always buy each set until I get a legendary so I can max out my value.That seems even worse than the Arcane Giant combo.
List? I don't see how Handlock will work with no Molten Giant. Especially in Wild, I feel like we're at the point where Reno is in everything.
Thank you!
Why use that combo when you can Spiritsinger Umbra play that into Dreadsteed for a full board of Dreadsteeds?Karsticles said:
I posted the list a few pages back, this is for Standard though.Karsticles said:
Classic Handlock Standard
Basically the new plant that can't attack as the replacement and go double Sunfury/DoA. You don't have heals but there is less burn in the game in Standard and you have a ton of taunts.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Spirit umbra or whatever is easily the most overrated card in review's I've looked at. Like gaf + reddit reviews iirc. I guess it's not that high on gaf review tho. Oh it was the hearthpwn one.
I think Reno priest is the only deck that runs it. N'zoth priest in wild probably won't.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I'm sure it's stronger in wild, but in standard it's just not good. Long stretch maybe it's okay in quest priest but I think that is a stretch.
Might be good in a midrange hunter deck. Hold a 3 drop to hero + deathrattle trigger on 5 if Umbra sticks. Lots of work to protect such weak combos though.
given that it is strictly from another class, I don't think so, the coin seems like a neutral spell
Beast Druid is losing:
Druid of the Saber, Mounted Raptor, Living Roots, Darnassus Aspirant, Druid of the Flame and Savage Combatant.
It's not that easy to fill in all those slots in the early game which means Beast Druid has to go slower/later.
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thepotatoman
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Golakka Crawler, Tar Creeper, Earthan Scales, and Shellshifter helps their survivability to replace Living Roots.
Tortollian Forger seems like a pretty good draw card a lot of the time. Lots of plusses and minuses over azure drake, but having less of a stat penalty with it seems pretty good.
BananasWithGuns
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Alright, 55 packs and 4500 gold waiting. 100 packs should be a nice start.
J4ckiechan decks? You have links to them?
RumblingRosco
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Y'all rated Unite the Murlocs a 3.45 (average) and I gave it a 1. I'm looking forward to telling you all how shitty Shamurloc is in a few weeks/months!
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hunter might not have the best 4 drops but that is worse.
BananasWithGuns
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Kind of bold considering you don't have to fully commit to murlocs to run it.
He did it on stream 2 days ago. Hopefully he'll post in on twitter because I can't either right now.
Murloc Shaman is my pick as a meta-breaker deck. It's got a huge list of upsides.
1.) Quest condition is easy to meet. Call in the Finishers is a huge help here.
2.) Rockpool Hunter is a very powerful early game minion.
3.) Gentle Megasaur and Bloodlust make a board full of murlocs super scary.
4.) Finja is a known quantity in terms of power and accelerates the quest.
5.) It's likely to be the most aggressive Shaman deck in the meta.
A zipgunner at 7/7 total power would be okay in my book.
Takes more cards but it can't be stopped by taunts and armor.
All these Mage quest decks are extremely weak to dirty rat, though.
RumblingRosco
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To be honest, I have no rational reason to not trust Shamurloc. I just know it's been "around" for basically every expansion since GvG but has never made even a minor dent in the meta. I'm just skeptical, still.
Side note: Anyone else have trouble loading and closing Hearthstone recently? Seems like the last day or so the program literally just hangs at the loading screen when I try to open it or crashes when I try to close it. On Windows 10. I'm wondering if it's patch related.
Have the timing/logistics details for tomorrow's expansion launch been announced?
- Time? (guessing 10am PT / 1pm ET?)
- Do we need to relog? (iirc, you don't need to anymore for WoW expansion launches, but you still did for Hearthstone...?)
- Can we buy additional Un'goro packs in advance, right at launch, or need to wait till afterward? (iirc, the shop went down for a bit to smooth out the launch for one of the last few expansions)
- Time? (guessing 10am PT / 1pm ET?)
- Do we need to relog? (iirc, you don't need to anymore for WoW expansion launches, but you still did for Hearthstone...?)
- Can we buy additional Un'goro packs in advance, right at launch, or need to wait till afterward? (iirc, the shop went down for a bit to smooth out the launch for one of the last few expansions)
When Blizzard started doing preorders on packs, it drastically lowered the strain on their authentication servers at launch for the expansions. If I were a betting man I would actually say that's the primary reason that Blizzard does preordering on packs. It spreads out the server load across the weeks leading up to the launch rather than everybody buying a bunch of packs at launch. So even though launch will still be a popular time to buy packs, the shop should still be open for business if recent history is anything to go by.
After batting around the idea of a tempo-ish Mage quest deck with Burgly Bully and Antonidas, I decided a freeze shell is probably stronger, so I'm thinking of trying something like this version.
I didn't go all in on random spell generation; I feel like there's enough of that in the deck without taking every available option. My main concerns are limited card draw and not having a consistent win condition beyond Alex/giants if the random spell cards are unkind. Thoughts?
I didn't go all in on random spell generation; I feel like there's enough of that in the deck without taking every available option. My main concerns are limited card draw and not having a consistent win condition beyond Alex/giants if the random spell cards are unkind. Thoughts?
nope
Andriod? yes. Amazon Marketplace? no.
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thepotatoman
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6 single spell generation cards plus 2 Cabalist Tomes seems quite rough when you're all in on the quest win condition by having molten giants and Alexstraza without Fireball. I think you can only get away with that few spell generation cards if you are planning on winning fairly often without completing the quest.
It seems to me that you have to look into Mukkla, Kabal Courier, Kabal Chemist, or Mana Bind if going all in on quest.
Yeah having it hang a bit too on windows 10. It started happening after the last update. Hope they fix it.
Yeah mine updated a few hours ago. I had to try to open it though.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Friendly asshole tip: if you want to get easy legend, expansion time is the perfect time to do so.
Play pirate warrior. Shouldn't take more than 12h of grinding.
1: People are experimenting
2: New players show up for new expansions
Negatives: you'll probably end up missing out the fun of "being there" during the extremely experimental stages. However, if you do achieve legend quickly, you'll have plenty of time to enjoy it as well.
Play pirate warrior. Shouldn't take more than 12h of grinding.
1: People are experimenting
2: New players show up for new expansions
Negatives: you'll probably end up missing out the fun of "being there" during the extremely experimental stages. However, if you do achieve legend quickly, you'll have plenty of time to enjoy it as well.
FieryBalrog
Member
Jade is not a fast deck at all
Jeez people, not everything that wins games is "fast", Jade is either solidly midrange (Shaman) or one of the slowest decks in the game (Druid). Also shaman jade is going to slow down further due to losing Tunnel Trogg *and* Totem Gilem with zero replacements
SonicXtreme
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Man i'm moving dragon priest to wild but i have no idea what to swap for the only card i feel is worth adding (velen's chosen, and a lightbomb probly), my deck has a lot of low drops but u need that in wild bc patches , i guess i need to sacrifice some late game but damn.
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