Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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That seems pretty good for the taunt shaman with ancestral spirit, n'zoth things like that.
taunts with deathrattle are very valuable right now.
It helps with fatigue too against other control decks, you draw it the card is nuts.
N'zoth shaman new meta, instead of playing stuff like chillmaw, this is way better, you can always play both.
Shaman keeps winning.
taunts with deathrattle are very valuable right now.
It helps with fatigue too against other control decks, you draw it the card is nuts.
N'zoth shaman new meta, instead of playing stuff like chillmaw, this is way better, you can always play both.
Shaman keeps winning.
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Lol at 10 from below
BananasWithGuns
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The card gives some serious credence to N'Zoth Shaman I think.
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thepotatoman
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Most Control Shamans should definitely run White Eyes.
Not sure about midrange.
Not sure about midrange.
I don't think so.
A 5/5 taunt for 5 is already pretty good and the 10/10 is obviously insane.
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Why not run one you get a 10/10 for the late game. Imagine getting brawled then dropping a 10/10
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Just when we thought we were done with shaman
Mobius and pet octopus
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Seems extremely slow, even for control shaman. Helps to thicken your deck in control mirrors at least.
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thepotatoman
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It's definitely good against control warrior. I'm just wondering about the other match ups that usually play out faster.
Yeah I'm not even convinced that this is a Control Shaman only card. A 5 mana 5/5 taunt is not even a big tempo loss. That's comparable to DotC. Combine that with the possible upside of slamming down a 5 mana 10/10 taunt? Why wouldn't a midrange shaman play that? It's sort of like, you know how even some tempo mages are playing Forgotten Torch? This is better.
True. It's just the current midrange list is so refined. Not sure what you would cut for this. And when you already have two 0 mana taunts in your deck, a 5 mana one seems expensive. Even with that insane upside.
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Mobius and pet octopus
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Jade idol could be a 1 mana 30/30.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It also has to compete against overload. You won't always be able to drop this on turn 5 and the longer you wait, it gets significantly weaker imo. Later you want to be playing ragnaros, TBV, or your finishers.
Maybe midrange cuts harrison jones for it though. And I don't think it's that common for overload to be active exactly on turn 5, but it could still be an issue.
Maybe midrange cuts harrison jones for it though. And I don't think it's that common for overload to be active exactly on turn 5, but it could still be an issue.
Still loses to Unicorn Priest. That deck plays mass dispel.
Listen, if you play a Rogue, don't feel jealous. This is literally the first class Deathrattle card Shaman has gotten (ignoring Aya). And it's a legend so there's only one!
Shaman is the big, beefy Taunt class if you ask me. This just adds to it. If you run N'Zoth, White Eyes, Aya, Sylvanas, and Cairne are all prime Ancestral Spirit targets.
Or, if you feel fancy, trade in for Barnes and/or Madam Goya. Then use your Hero Power or Call in the Finishers for a an easy 1/1 or 0/2 target, with nothing but BIG BOYS in your deck.
Honestly... I was hoping for something Jade Golem related. But it's clear Blizz wants to try something original. If ONLY Kel'Thuzad and Reincarnate were legal.
As a matter of fact, with the new Tri-Class Discover card, it may well be possible to use Journey Below or Raptor.
Shaman is the big, beefy Taunt class if you ask me. This just adds to it. If you run N'Zoth, White Eyes, Aya, Sylvanas, and Cairne are all prime Ancestral Spirit targets.
Or, if you feel fancy, trade in for Barnes and/or Madam Goya. Then use your Hero Power or Call in the Finishers for a an easy 1/1 or 0/2 target, with nothing but BIG BOYS in your deck.
Honestly... I was hoping for something Jade Golem related. But it's clear Blizz wants to try something original. If ONLY Kel'Thuzad and Reincarnate were legal.
As a matter of fact, with the new Tri-Class Discover card, it may well be possible to use Journey Below or Raptor.
That is some big ass late game for Shaman.
If you just use a few of the known Deathrattles is it enough to run N'Zoth?
This guy, and who else?
Would you try to run this in a Golem deck also or are those separate decks? I kinda think combining them might be a bit too much atm. You'd get the usual suspects Infested Taurens & Loot Hoarders, but do you want to run Aya and all the Golem cards too? Seems a bit too crowded. Maybe I'm wrong tho. It would be obvious I think if I had the cards in front of me instead of needing to go off memory.
If you just use a few of the known Deathrattles is it enough to run N'Zoth?
This guy, and who else?
Would you try to run this in a Golem deck also or are those separate decks? I kinda think combining them might be a bit too much atm. You'd get the usual suspects Infested Taurens & Loot Hoarders, but do you want to run Aya and all the Golem cards too? Seems a bit too crowded. Maybe I'm wrong tho. It would be obvious I think if I had the cards in front of me instead of needing to go off memory.
BananasWithGuns
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White Eyes, Cairne, Sylvanas and maybe Chillmaw are likely to be the N'Zoth package for Shaman if the deck proves worthwhile. I'm not sure if you try to fit in anything else really.
Portugeezer
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True.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It looks like a good fit in n'zoth shaman but will the deck be better than other n'zoth decks? I mean, paladin has tirion which is clearly stronger than that and still doesn't make it. If we're looking at a priest meta, it just gets entombed or even stolen outright.
I think it's a good card, will see play, but perhaps the flashiness of a 5 mana 10/10 is going to cause people to over-evaluate the card.
I think it's a good card, will see play, but perhaps the flashiness of a 5 mana 10/10 is going to cause people to over-evaluate the card.
Shaman has quite a few advantages in control over paladin.
Hex is a card, paladin has no real single target removal, you can't Aldor Rag or Sylvanas.
Shaman has multiple single card board sweepers, paladin is all in on drawing equality combo.
Shaman might not have as good heals, but they have more than enough.
Shaman's hero power has much more value and relevance to control than recruits. Having taunt and spelldamage is pretty good.
It's unlikely to be some tier 1 deck but it doesn't mean it's necessary worse than N'Zoth paladin. It already destroys mid shaman when paladin doesn't. It's not good against other control decks which this card helps.
As for entomb, this being a 5 drop instead of a 8 one, it enables you to do some combo wombos with it and don't give much entomb value. Play Emperor, then play it, ancestral it, play faceless. can't entomb both. There are some moat lurker shenanigans too.
Hex is a card, paladin has no real single target removal, you can't Aldor Rag or Sylvanas.
Shaman has multiple single card board sweepers, paladin is all in on drawing equality combo.
Shaman might not have as good heals, but they have more than enough.
Shaman's hero power has much more value and relevance to control than recruits. Having taunt and spelldamage is pretty good.
It's unlikely to be some tier 1 deck but it doesn't mean it's necessary worse than N'Zoth paladin. It already destroys mid shaman when paladin doesn't. It's not good against other control decks which this card helps.
As for entomb, this being a 5 drop instead of a 8 one, it enables you to do some combo wombos with it and don't give much entomb value. Play Emperor, then play it, ancestral it, play faceless. can't entomb both. There are some moat lurker shenanigans too.
There can be more than 1 taunt class.
Ancestral Healing, Feral Spirit, Earth Elemental, Al'Akir. There was precedent for Shaman to have taunts even before The Thing From Below.
BananasWithGuns
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Shaman also has both epics to be revealed and from what I can tell neither of them should be a Jade Golem card.
Wouldn't be surprised if one or both are control oriented.
Wouldn't be surprised if one or both are control oriented.
Professor Lich
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Speaking of Control Shaman, it'll be sad to see Healing Wave go. Hopefully one of cards that hasn't been revealed yet has a heal to it.
I think that 3 6 is all they'll get for heal, but its strong with no healbot in the game anymore
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