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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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thepotatoman
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Pretty crazy to put AoE on a neutral like that. Plenty of opportunities for 2 card combos to enable AoE in classes that are limited from AoE for a reason. Don't know which 2 card combos are good enough, but certainly something.
Prepare for the Mark of Nature meta.
Screw Mark of Nature, its all about the Blessing of Might. Turn 4, a 4/1 that does 4 damage to all enemies when it dies.
Then you got your Cold Blood. It's like the Paladin version, except now you have a turn 4 5/1 that does 5 damage to all enemies when it dies.
Sadly it will leave Sally unbuffed when she comes out. But maybe you could just buff her up a second time.
Blizard really trying to push a lot of board control options, lets see how this all pans out.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Unstable ghoul was 1 mana less but this one is asymmetric soo... probably better than unstable ghoul. And probably much much better than chillmaw.
It's going into my paladin deck 100%.
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilde...62:2;49667:1;49677:2;49683:1;49712:2;49728:1;
The card will force awkward trades and sometimes just outright win games imo. It's also a card that is good to hold onto and buff up longer than others, for the highest impact.
It's going into my paladin deck 100%.
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilde...62:2;49667:1;49677:2;49683:1;49712:2;49728:1;
The card will force awkward trades and sometimes just outright win games imo. It's also a card that is good to hold onto and buff up longer than others, for the highest impact.
Yeah, instant triggers can be important, especially since this doesn't have taunt to direct trades.
Power Overwhelming is amazing with this but on her own I dunno if that makes it into a renolock since it needs that combo and is otherwise pretty dead. But the swing that can cause while developing something like Emperor late in the game is huge, her effect only hitting enemies is amazing for that.
I actually think a lot of these neutrals are helping Grimy Goons a lot. Assuming Fight Promoter procs off of itself(it reads as if it would), this is another possible contender to the hand buffing stuff. Too hard to ignore this if it's a bigger body with a ridiculously strong deathrattle.
Keyser Soze
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Hopefully more that 1 Legandary please Blizzard.
That or the hand buffing decks we're sure to see.
While it will likely be decent in handbuff decks, it's still an aoe that allows the opponent to set up a favourable board position and also doesn't stop a board full of low health minions from cashing in that extra face damage like Explosive Trap does. If it can regularly reach 4 or higher, it might still be strong enough even if the clear itself doesn't get massive value but that's going to be the challenge of the entire Grimy Goons theme.
Sally really isn't that good. If you can't buff her, she is way worse than Twilight Flamecaller, which already isn't a great card.
Your oppnent will not give enough time to buff it either if at all possible and buffing a minion that can't attack at the same turn isn't very effective.
Not to mention that most buff card only work until the end of the turn.
The combo with Power Overwhelming sounds great, but it doesn't work well in reno and I'm not sure if zoo cares that much about an aoe combo.
You want to buff her in the same turn you play her,which means you can't go face with her.
She could work well with goons, they have yet to prove themself.
Your oppnent will not give enough time to buff it either if at all possible and buffing a minion that can't attack at the same turn isn't very effective.
Not to mention that most buff card only work until the end of the turn.
The combo with Power Overwhelming sounds great, but it doesn't work well in reno and I'm not sure if zoo cares that much about an aoe combo.
You want to buff her in the same turn you play her,which means you can't go face with her.
She could work well with goons, they have yet to prove themself.
Not really, she is harldy the first neutral minion with aoe effect.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I kind of want to try sally in wild secret paladin. Avenge makes her 4 power, Spirit 2, If I run wickerflame and her, there's a case to be made for blessing of kings as well.
I don't think any deck would want that card. Sure, it's good with PO, but why play that when you can play shadowflame and it's far more flexible.
This ONLY works with PO pretty much, shadowflame works with any minion, big difference.
It's bad in every other class that could use it. No warrior deck that would want 3 dmg aoe wants to play inner rage, patron is rip and definitely not coming with this many aoe in the game. Rogue? please...
Paladin I think is probably the most realistic use of it, because consec is too slow and you have nothing better and even here it's iffy. It's not that good.
This ONLY works with PO pretty much, shadowflame works with any minion, big difference.
It's bad in every other class that could use it. No warrior deck that would want 3 dmg aoe wants to play inner rage, patron is rip and definitely not coming with this many aoe in the game. Rogue? please...
Paladin I think is probably the most realistic use of it, because consec is too slow and you have nothing better and even here it's iffy. It's not that good.
Against only the enemy board and more than 1 damage (potentially)?
But I agree, it's hard to evaluate whether she's playable, since cards that need activators tend to be bad.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Wickerflame Burnbristle is gonna be super busted in wild. A 3rd minibot with taunt and lifelink, sign me up.
The card with the most similarities to Sally is Explosive Sheep. It was only run in mage, which doesn't have any way to buff attack (unless it gets Bloodfury Potion).
I think it has potential to be a key part of Goon decks. Imagine putting that down against shaman or zoo on turn 3 as a 2/2 or 3/3. It's enough to carry your early lost tempo.
edit: well on second though Paladin is the only class that can buff it before turn 3, though that does seem to be the most fleshed out goon class.
I think it has potential to be a key part of Goon decks. Imagine putting that down against shaman or zoo on turn 3 as a 2/2 or 3/3. It's enough to carry your early lost tempo.
edit: well on second though Paladin is the only class that can buff it before turn 3, though that does seem to be the most fleshed out goon class.
Portugeezer
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It is basically a Warlock legendary.
He's not a 3rd minibot anymore than Silent Knight is like a 3rd minibot. 3 mana is a big difference. I wouldn't be so sure he's any better than Muster, Coghammer, or Aldor Peacekeeper.
Control Warriors have run Inner Rage and/or Cruel Taskmaster in the past as Grom activators.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
That's not the card he'd replace except peacekeeper, don't run that card in wild.
He offers incremental heals and that's pretty important considering there's still a significant amount of hunters in wild.
I've run death lord in the past.
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
Aggro Shaman and Zoo is going to destroy this new meta.
New AOE may be enough to deal with Midrange Shaman.
New AOE may be enough to deal with Midrange Shaman.
I think a 3 mana 2/2 taunt with divine shield is already a little more playable than a fair card like Squirming Tentacle. Add a bit of healing and it's pretty good. I don't know if I would call it busted but it's solid enough.
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no they do not
no they do not
It seems too fair to be called busted. Something like a 0 mana 5/5 with taunt is what I would call busted. Gotta agree that it's a good card though. Although I would still prefer a Coghammer or Muster when going against aggro if it was available in standard.
Randomizer123454444
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https://twitter.com/Frodan/status/803153869224062977
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
In standard it won't do shit for paladin, buffadin won't need heals and control paladin does and will continue to suck regardless.
In wild I needed something more for early aggression and he fills that hole entirely. I'm not sure if you played MTG before but lifelink means you're gonna win the race.
The stream date was announced last week. He's just trying to hype it. Can't wait for his reaction to Purify 2.0
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
They are comparable but I wouldn't weigh them against each other. Coghammer is a card that's best at getting you further ahead while wickerflame stabilises your position.
How often does Secret Paladin actually play from behind?
Oh shit, fantastic! I'm surprised this isn't all over Hearthstone news sites like Hearthpwn.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Depends against how many paladin you're playing.
Mech Mage and Hunter can both race you.
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