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Hi-Fi Rush Was a "Break Out Hit" For Xbox, Says Aaron Greenberg
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Mr Moose
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Why would a MS first party game be on other platforms?
Minecraft Legends
Raise your banner high and inspire your allies! Call on familiar mobs and new friends to defeat the ravenous piglins and save the Overworld from their destructive greed.
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I agree with this game though, doesn't need to be on Switch/PS.
DenchDeckard
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Im gonna fire up Hi Fi rush and give it another blast... Love the game.
Kvally
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So Sony should release God of War on Xbox and Nintendo and Nintendo should release Mario on Xbox and PlayStation?
Lucifers Beard
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Who actually gives a shit about this stuff except for console warriors?
Why would they do this? If you think they should've because more consoles equals more sales, then by that logic each company would release their first-party games on every console. At that point, why not just partner up on a single console and distribute all first-party games to it instead of having individual console spaces?
DeepEnigma
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The boss thought so at one time... at one time... at... one... time...
Phil Spencer Says Generation Exclusives Are "Completely Counter To What Gaming Is About"
In a recent interview, Xbox Executive Phil Spencer claimed console exclusives were counter to what gaming is meant to be about.
www.thegamer.com
Nail on the head.
A large chunk of platform warring comes from managing opportunity cost.
That’s not a relevant metric for success. There’s Forspoken DLC on the way, for example. And that didn’t ‘overperform’.
If you guys handwaved away Greenberg’s tweet and the fact that John Johanas and Spencer ‘liked’ it, the internal Tango email celebrating Hi-Fi Rush launch reception and the job postings showing Tango’s expansion, I’m not sure how announcing DLC would have moved the needle.
feynoob
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The expectation was different.So when the expectations are that low, all measurements would be a success.
They are using it as gamepass attraction.
They want young get audience to sub to gamepass, which is a success measurement for them.
These type of games usually nets around $50m lifetime. So it's better for them to get 100k-500k gamepass users, who will sub for longer than 3 years.
FrankWza
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What?Their entire business model now revolves around game pass.Imagine asking about ticket sales from Netflix....
Again, if the entire business model revolves around gamepass what does that have to do with asking Netflix about ticket sales. Unless xbox stops selling games and makes all of their titles exclusive to gp there's no comparison. They can follow whatever model they want, but they're still selling games. Show the subs or show the sales. Easy.
Topher
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I don't think the lack of marketing for this one game is an indication of anything considering marketing has been largely non-existent for Xbox across the board.
Either way, folks need to stop this "MS doesn't care about sales" fiction. They are a money-making mega-corporation. Of course they care about sales.
Exactly. If you have to read into something then it isn't directly refuting anything. The correct response, if GRUBB is saying HFR wasn't a sales success, and AG even wants to wade into discussing sales figures is to say "No, in fact it was successful commercially."
Chukhopops
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Microsoft is just keeping their 2014 promise to the players:Minecraft Legends
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I agree with this game though, doesn't need to be on Switch/PS.
Can’t believe people still doubt them after such a show of trust over 8 years…
FrankWza
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No such thing. You mean xbox paid for by microsoft.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The boss thought so at one time... at one time... at... one... time...
Phil Spencer Says Generation Exclusives Are "Completely Counter To What Gaming Is About"
In a recent interview, Xbox Executive Phil Spencer claimed console exclusives were counter to what gaming is meant to be about.
That interview was talking about cross-gen games and not locking games at launch to the new consoles to force people to upgrade.
Pretty sure you already knew this.
Topher
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StealthGoblin
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They’ll be doing it with COD and Blizzard. It’s clear they are moving to a service model.
Why would a MS first party game be on other platforms?
They can have their games on Gamepass to entice people to the service and still make cash from Switch and PlayStation versions.
Of the big three, Xbox seems less focused on the actual box.
MisterXDTV
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The focus changes based on what happens... It's always moving...
If the sales of Xbox consoles were amazing, they would push a completely different narrative...
Instead they suck, so console sales don't matter.....
Kataploom
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"Oh no no, I just said my uncle that happens to work at Xbox finances told me, don't come at me guys"
feynoob
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MS is going after office route, which is why they are sacrificing current sales in order to get that done.
40M copies of 60$ price tag games, with day 1 sales cost around $2.4b, around gamepass 1 year revenue.
IF MS can get gamepass around 40m sub, cancels the 1$ promotion(they stopped as of now), cancels the stack 3 year one(they will in the future), increase the price to 18$ for console, and 12$ for pc, they will be able to generate 7.2b.
$3.5b is the cost of operating gamepass at that stage, that will leave us with $3.7b for their first party pool. To get that revenue, MS will need to sell 61.6m copies at 60$(no drop in price). Plus their game sales on top of that revenue.
That is what MS is after. These NPD/UK chart dont see this passive income, because it doesnt involve sales. Its pure sub cost, which MS can generate yearly, by maintaining 40m sub on average of $15 price tag (($18 console+12$ pc)/2 for average).
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Mr Reasonable
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DeepEnigma
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Xbox boss expects there to be ‘less and less’ platform exclusive games in future | VGC
Microsoft’s gaming chief thinks products being multiplatform is better for the industry…
www.videogameschronicle.com
He can get right on it and lead by example. But, he is doing oppo with buying up storied 3rd party pubs and IPs.
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Topher
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Again, Phil Spencer has flatly said that they do not expect Game Pass to grow beyond 15% of their game revenue. So however Game Pass grows, the other revenue streams such as actual games sales will be the dominant revenue producer. Sales still matter. That's just a fact.
FrankWza
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Phil should be a banned source here for port beggingThe boss thought so at one time... at one time... at... one... time...
Phil Spencer Says Generation Exclusives Are "Completely Counter To What Gaming Is About"
In a recent interview, Xbox Executive Phil Spencer claimed console exclusives were counter to what gaming is meant to be about.
DeepEnigma
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Sales will always matter to companies that makes products. I don't get what kind of mental gymnastic knots one has to tie themselves into to argue otherwise.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My man my man, have *you* seen his post history? Especially all the recent one visible from his profile?
They put out DLC for the game last week.
How many games do you know where they announced a sequel weeks after releasing the first one? Legitimately curious how focused your over critical lens goes here
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That's not a great example as its entirely possible for additional content production to be baked into the production pipeline in advance.
Generally speaking the timing of release/announcement for such product is the key.
If its all close to release window (e.g. RE4R) then chances are it was pre-planned as an adjunct to the primary offer; if its announced soon after but the additional content takes months to actually become publicly available (e.g. REVIII) then it says that performance likely exceeded expectation because its evident that their ability to capitalize was delayed due to production limitations.
If however neither is announced, then its evidence that post-release a decision was made to apportion production resources elsewhere.
feynoob
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It will grow. Gamepass isnt going to stay at 25m forever.
DeepEnigma
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My man my man, yes we have. He used to start threads criticizing as well as posting criticism for the entire first 2+ years of going into this gen about Sony. He has not started to criticize MS in the same way until the past year or so.
His writing style has been consistent, I will give him that.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's either an outside influence or the check being cleared cause his last year or thereabout post history is pretty blatant.
MisterXDTV
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It depends on the price of the subscription...
I wouldn't pay 3x the annual price I pay right now for GamePass...
I would go back to buying single games that I care about
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SmokedMeat
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Who says there will be PlayStation versions? They need to get out of third place.
DeepEnigma
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Or MS checks started bouncing. They did heavily cut back on their marketing budget. He's noIt's either an outside influence or the check being cleared cause his last year or thereabout post history is pretty blatant.
DarkMage619
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SenjutsuSage
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feynoob
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One thing for sure, he needs chatGPT.Or MS checks started bouncing. They did heavily cut back on their marketing budget. He's no
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Amen.
feynoob
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People like you and me are the minority.
DeepEnigma
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They're not in third place if revenue is the new metric. Since console sales are no longer the litmus, right?
They produce far more revenue than Nintendo.
StealthGoblin
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I didn’t say there would be. But this game wouldn’t move the needle for GamePass or the charts on its current platforms. Best to take in as much cash as possible and get praise on all platforms.
Microsoft won’t dig themself out of third place. That ship has sailed.
Their moves into becoming a service through cloud and other means seems the wisest thing for them, it plays into their strength.
They are having to spend over $70b on assets just to be competing with PlayStation on revenue. Playing Sony at their game hasn’t worked for them. That’s why we are seeing the drastic moves. It’s far less drastic to release the smaller games from their purchased publishers on lots of platforms and make more money.
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Topher
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While the ratio will remain the same according to Phil Spencer and sales will continue to be a huge part of Microsoft's gaming revenue.
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Daneel Elijah
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Why do you hate long posts? And he is not hard to read, and often back up what he said with data.
feynoob
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DeepEnigma
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Massive investments into gatcha games.
The hell is tencent doing to make that much money. Its double of Sony.
ResilientBanana
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Another game of pick apart the statements between someone that works at Microsoft, and this fat fuck. Get a life people.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The hell is tencent doing to make that much money. Its double of Sony.
we need to contact our local congressman to fight against this threat.
feynoob
Banned
I think you mean 3rd party sales, which MS gets a cut. That sale in included in overall revenue.
First party revenue is tied to how much console they sell.
PS4 game ratio sale was less than 1/5th of the lifetime console.
DeepEnigma
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Ironic, eh?we need to contact our local congressman to fight against this threat.
feynoob
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he has our back.we need to contact our local congressman to fight against this threat.
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