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[MayauMiao]

You got any hard evidence to back that up, or ?

This is an example that could give Nintendo a strong case on banning Switch emulators.



Not only its a thinly veil in piracy but he is actually saying it can "murder" the Switch.

 

[Guilty_AI]

This is an example that could give Nintendo a strong case on banning Switch emulators.



Not only its a thinly veil in piracy but he is actually saying it can "murder" the Switch.

How is saying one hardware is better than the other something that can give nintendo a "strong case"? And guy barely talks about emulation here.

 

[digital_ghost]

You got any hard evidence to back that up, or ?

Today on The People's Court

Arsic says he has photographic evidence of millions of people using emulators for piracy.

The evidence in question? Photos of the number of downloads from rom websites.

Photos show that Breath of The Wild has been downloaded 350 million times by 350 million people.

For reference the The United States has a population of about 350 million.

In light of this new evidence what will Pejo say? Will he acuse Arsic of photoshopping the evidence?

The People's Court will return after a word from our Sponsor.

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[MayauMiao]

How is saying one hardware is better than the other something that can give nintendo a "strong case"? And guy barely talks about emulation here.

Come on, we all know what he is implying here. Even if you "think" he doesn't say it, the Nintendo's lawyers can easily explain it in a way that will get the court to agree with them.

Nintendo knows they have a strong case and every Switch emulator creators know this.

 

[Pejo]

This is an example that could give Nintendo a strong case on banning Switch emulators.



Not only its a thinly veil in piracy but he is actually saying it can "murder" the Switch.

Damn, so not only does this prove 99% of emulator users are performing piracy, but also MURDER??

I wasn't ready for this information...

 

[Hoddi]

It's disappointing but this is just a delay. There will be other emulators in 5-10 years so the preservation aspect won't be an issue once Nintendo has newer systems out.

But I just want to play games at high res/framerate. Switch 2 genuinely needs to support DLSS because their current games look dreadful on modern TVs and I can't keep my 1080p set forever.

 

[Digital-Aftertaste]

I nabbed Ryujinx as soon as I saw the news on the other emulator that got taken down

 

[rodrigolfp]

Like said at end of the day Nintendo are company of making money and to them people using emulation to steal games is losing money so they gonna do what it takes to stop it.

Nobody can use an emulator to steal games.

 

[nkarafo]

This only shows how fucked up the justice system is. Doesn't matter if you are on the right, what matters is that you have enough money and the mental strength/patience to go through a ridiculously expensive, nerve racking, time wasting lawsuit that may even take years to resolve.

Nintendo knows this and they also know small homebrew developers and hobbyists are not like the Bleem company who had the money to defend their case and win.

I lost all the remaining respect i had for Nintendo at this point. No more money of mine will ever go their way.

using emulation to steal games

Some people also use computers to develop these emulators. Heck, they don't even need emulators, they can still "steal" other games via piracy.

People also use knives to hurt other people.

I guess we have to ban computers and kitchen knives then.

 

[CGNoire]

Nintendo is also on the verge of killing Retro Game Corps, a YouTube channel focused on handhelds and emulation, just because he puts out videos under fair use where he shows off some Nintendo games and characters running on different handhelds. He doesn't talk about piracy or how to find games, and always shows off in the video that he owns the particular game he is showcasing, yet Nintendo copyright strikes him. He draws huge attention to Nintendo and a lot of that interest probably results in a lot of game sales, but Nintendo doesn't give a flying fuck about the potential uptick and positive buzz and word of mouth regarding their brand, if it's about emulation you can count on getting royally fucked.

That sucks. Retro Game Corps is an awesome channel. Got my Powkiddy X55 cause of his review. For $95 shipped its an amazing deal. Guy put together extensive guide on his website just forr that one handheld. Fuck Nintendo.

 

[Digital-Aftertaste]

Nobody can use an emulator to steal games.

yeah its a loophole type thing cuz it facilitates it even tho emulation does not equal piracy but that won't stop nintendo from sinking the emu devs in legal battles. Makes me wonder if the reason for this now is backwards compatibility for their next console

 

[Moses85]

Dolphin is still alive though.



lol, yeah, all'em MVG fans.

Yes, because Dolphin is emulating Games , so old, Nintendo doesnt give a fuck about these. As soon as Nintendo is offering these games in the E-Shop, they will release their Ninjas!

 

[Dr.D00p]

They're a bunch of bullying corporate cunts and anyone on here who defends them is an even bigger cunt.

 

[HL3.exe]

I would really like it if Nintendo released their games on PC even they depended on special hardware like having to buy a controller so they can be played like in the console with no difference

Custom hardware sound neat for experimental game-design, I agree. But that hasn't been necessary for awhile, as you play every game (when emulated) with a third-party controller, it turns out.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Today on The People's Court

Arsic says he has photographic evidence of millions of people using emulators for piracy.

The evidence in question? Photos of the number of downloads from rom websites.

Photos show that Breath of The Wild has been downloaded 350 million times by 350 million people.

For reference the The United States has a population of about 350 million.

In light of this new evidence what will Pejo say? Will he acuse Arsic of photoshopping the evidence?

The People's Court will return after a word from our Sponsor.

Concord tears. Buy 100% authentic tears cried by Sony executives after learning they lost $400 million.

 

[CS Lurker]

and before you say "its just used for piracy"

I would change this to "it's mostly used for piracy", as it paints an accurate picture.

 

[VGEsoterica]

I would change this to "it's mostly used for piracy", as it paints an accurate picture.

But again just because something can be used for X doesn’t make it not allowed. Only a court case would

 

[BlackTron]

You got any hard evidence to back that up, or ?

To be fair, common sense is a thing. Anecdotal white-knight gaffers who take a picture of their stack of physical games they've made backups up is the 1%.

I'm not saying this means common sense is adequate proof to take legal action, but we should still have it.

Nintendo is also on the verge of killing Retro Game Corps, a YouTube channel focused on handhelds and emulation, just because he puts out videos under fair use where he shows off some Nintendo games and characters running on different handhelds. He doesn't talk about piracy or how to find games, and always shows off in the video that he owns the particular game he is showcasing, yet Nintendo copyright strikes him. He draws huge attention to Nintendo and a lot of that interest probably results in a lot of game sales, but Nintendo doesn't give a flying fuck about the potential uptick and positive buzz and word of mouth regarding their brand, if it's about emulation you can count on getting royally fucked.

This is what pisses me off. I think they have a reason to attack Palworld but not this guy. He hasn't done a single thing neither illegal nor harming to their business, and is just a guy. Come on Nintendo. I would love for someone they perceive as weak to bite back and make them think twice about how it will go next time.

 

[Dr.D00p]

I would change this to "it's mostly used for piracy", as it paints an accurate picture.

Rom dumps are used for piracy, jail broken Switches with flash carts are used for piracy.

Emulators are not used for piracy.

I have downloaded Switch roms for use with emulators.

Do you know how much money Nintendo has lost from me, for doing that?

Not a single fucking penny because if the emulator didn't exist I simply wouldn't bother buying a Switch console & its games.

Their games are curiosity for me, getting emulators up and running is a bit of fun, nothing more.


...and Nintendo has incurred no financial loss from me.

If Nintendo want to stop emulation being so easy on their platforms they should stop being a bunch of cheap cunts, using outdated, off the shelf components only fit for running a fucking smart fridge, that present very little technical challenge to the coders.

I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, it's a self inflicted problem.

 

[BlackTron]

Rom dumps are used for piracy, jail broken Switches with flash carts are used for piracy.

Emulators are not used for piracy.

I have downloaded Switch roms for use with emulators.

What the fuck is this?

 

[Dr.D00p]

What the fuck is this?

Obviously a difference of opinion on the definition of 'piracy'.

I don't consider it piracy if Nintendo doesn't lose out on $60 by me playing one of their games on my PC for a few hours, because like I said, without an emulator, that wouldn't make me go out and buy a Switch Console to buy and play their games.

 

[BlackTron]

Obviously a difference of opinion on the definition of 'piracy'.

I don't consider it piracy if Nintendo doesn't lose out on $60 by me playing one of their games on my PC for a few hours, because like I said, without an emulator, that wouldn't make me go out and buy a Switch Console to buy and play their games.

Piracy isn't causing financial loss through pirating a game. Piracy is just...pirating a game. Whether you think that makes it acceptable is a different story.

"Your honor, no violation took place because at the moment it occurred, I was operating under my own definition of it."

I mean you literally said emulators are not used for piracy and then immediately stated you use emulators to play downloaded ROMs. The thing is you also said that ROM dumps or broken switches are used for piracy, but under your own definition using the ROM dump was not piracy so long as you were never going to buy the game.

What a self massaging word salad.

 

[SweetTooth]

Sadly I am aware. I’ve chatted with Retro Game Corps about it. Super nice dude who does everything right. I didn’t mention it in a vid as it just draws more attention to the target on him and I’d hate to see him lose his channel when he’s wholly in the right

Nintendo Ninjas:

 

[CS Lurker]

What the fuck is this?

Hypocrisy.

 

[Porcile]

I'm banking on there being an emulator and an easy way (I believe there might already be a piece of hardware that does it) of ripping physical Switch carts to a PC in the future.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I'm so glad to have downloaded it literally a few days ago before it went down.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Piracy isn't causing financial loss through pirating a game. Piracy is just...pirating a game. Whether you think that makes it acceptable is a different story.

"Your honor, no violation took place because at the moment it occurred, I was operating under my own definition of it."

I mean you literally said emulators are not used for piracy and then immediately stated you use emulators to play downloaded ROMs. The thing is you also said that ROM dumps or broken switches are used for piracy, but under your own definition using the ROM dump was not piracy so long as you were never going to buy the game.

What a self massaging word salad.

A lot of these guys have a Robinhood Complex. Helps them reconcile their entitlement.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Hypocrisy.

Let's see how many ROMs have been on your hard drives, shall we.

Then we'll see the definition of 'hypocrisy'.

 

[SaintALia]

Piracy isn't causing financial loss through pirating a game. Piracy is just...pirating a game. Whether you think that makes it acceptable is a different story.

"Your honor, no violation took place because at the moment it occurred, I was operating under my own definition of it."

I mean you literally said emulators are not used for piracy and then immediately stated you use emulators to play downloaded ROMs. The thing is you also said that ROM dumps or broken switches are used for piracy, but under your own definition using the ROM dump was not piracy so long as you were never going to buy the game.

What a self massaging word salad.

Yeah, as much as I support game preservation and emulation in general, there is a sort of dishonesty about it that I don't like.

Games should be preserved and emulation should be pursued and roms dumped. NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO THAT EMULATION OR ROMSET. People like to just dance around the fact that the majority of people who emulate and use roms are using it for piracy. It's just a sad fact about the emulation scene. Most people don't give a rat's ass about game preservatio, they just want to play those games and some even think they're owed it because they can't get it otherwise.

But game preservation still needs to be pursued.

 

[Jibran#one]

Explain to me how is dolphin still alive ??? Because Wii and wi u are too old they let it slide ?

 

[rodrigolfp]

yeah its a loophole type thing cuz it facilitates it

Emulators don't facilitate anything. Piracy = downloading a illegal copy of a game. Emulators have nothing to do with downloading illegal copies of games.

 

[BlackTron]

If you're gonna pirate either own it or keep it to yourself. Imagine Jack Sparrow being such a pussy he went out of his way to explain an alternate definition.

 

[CS Lurker]

Let's see how many ROMs have been on your hard drives, shall we.

According to you, even if I had 1000 ROMs of games that I don't actually own in any way, it wouldn't be piracy as long as I would come here and affirm that Nintendo didn't lose a penny from me downloading their games, as I didn't have any intention to buy anything from them anyway.

You can pirate games as much as you want, just don't try to come here and change its definitions.

 

[Dr.D00p]

According to you, even if I had 1000 ROMs of games that I don't actually own in any way, it wouldn't be piracy as long as I would come here and affirm that Nintendo didn't lose a penny from me downloading their games, as I didn't have any intention to buy anything from them anyway.

You can pirate games as much as you want, just don't try to come here and change its definitions.

So, lots then.

Thought so.

 

[CS Lurker]

So, lots then.

Thought so.

Now your posts make sense, coming from someone who doesn't understand a conditional sentence.

 

[BlackTron]

Now your posts make sense, coming from someone who doesn't understand a conditional sentence.

His understanding of the sentence is conditional just like the conditional definition of pirating. No inconsistency detected.

 

[hyperbertha]

I don't support emulation of systems that are currently being sold and I think the preservation argument is bogus. It's used for piracy, full stop, we saw it with Yuzu.

It's also used to play switch games at playable framerates

 

[SoraNoKuni]

Well it's existential for Nintendo since their consoles are low powered, meaning if the switch 2 is pretty much based on existing architectures(arm) sdks then soon enough ryujinx/yuzu could emulate their games on android phones and steam deck like devices.

Which is almost like having a switch, and better.

 

[Three]

They're a bunch of bullying corporate cunts and anyone on here who defends them is an even bigger cunt.

I've seen a lot of people trying to comfort themselves by separating Nintendo lawyers from Nintendo. As if they're separate entities.

 

[Dural]

Explain to me how is dolphin still alive ??? Because Wii and wi u are too old they let it slide ?

The video that Nintendo had Youtube take down from Retro Game Corps was because of WiiU emulation, so I don't know.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Come on, we all know what he is implying here. Even if you "think" he doesn't say it, the Nintendo's lawyers can easily explain it in a way that will get the court to agree with them.

Nintendo knows they have a strong case and every Switch emulator creators know this.

No? He explicitly says he isn't interested in retro gaming and doesn't know much about it, he also uses different libraries as points of comparison. He's just comparing handheld devices.

 

[Business]

The fact they can thrive being such assholes has to be a testament of how good their games are

 

[ReyBrujo]

it wouldn't be piracy

You would just be an "archivist", an MVG hero.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I remember when Princess Peach Showtime got preserved a week before it even launched on Switch.

 

[VGEsoterica]

Well it's existential for Nintendo since their consoles are low powered, meaning if the switch 2 is pretty much based on existing architectures(arm) sdks then soon enough ryujinx/yuzu could emulate their games on android phones and steam deck like devices.

Which is almost like having a switch, and better.

Yes in essence Nintendo knows that with the Switch 2 being advanced but still derivative architecture compared to OG Switch it gives software emulation coders a leg up day 1. Still wouldn't be easy but the work they've already done would be foundational

 

[chakadave]

I used to think Disney was hard as fuck on its IPs but Nintendo makes them look like amateurs

Disney started this. Mickey should be in the public domain. IP control was never supposed to be forever.

 

[Ponderling]

First yuzu now ryujinx, this whole thing sucks.
They were pure electric for the emulation community, imagine playing current gen releases of Zelda, Mario and Metroid games within days at higher res and fps! it was amazing.
Put the source code on ice and be patient my friends, for these emulators will be back in some form I guarantee it.
Emulation is a retrospective hobby after all and this has been a curiously awesome anomaly.

 

[rodrigolfp]

First yuzu now ryujinx, this whole thing sucks.
They were pure electric for the emulation community, imagine playing current gen releases of Zelda, Mario and Metroid games within days at higher res and fps! it was amazing.
Put the source code on ice and be patient my friends, for these emulators will be back in some form I guarantee it.
Emulation is a retrospective hobby after all and this has been a curiously awesome anomaly.

Yuzu went nowhere. It's called Suyu and has its own site and open development.

 

[Ponderling]

Yuzu went nowhere. It's called Suyu and has its own site and open development.

 

[ReyBrujo]

Yuzu went nowhere. It's called Suyu and has its own site and open development.

Amazing progress they are doing, they almost took property of all code by replacing links and names. All with a broken pipeline and useful commit messages.