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Snuggler said:
That's a Micro ATX motherboard. Your probably better off going with just a regular ATX motherboard
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That's a Micro ATX motherboard. Your probably better off going with just a regular ATX motherboard
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Varna said:
well I went from an gtx 260 SLI to a gtx 580 set-up and I had a lot gains on games like just cause 2, mafia 2 and metro 2033 not to mention crysis (90 frames with 16x AA @ 1920x1200)
thats just to give you an idea.
however, you are on a single card and already have a card thats is a much better performer (460) than my old 260 so unless you plan to upgrade your monitor further (1920x1080 and beyond) i don't see the point. although you'd be set with that 580 for a good long while.
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TheExodu5 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...186038&cm_re=arctic_mx-_-35-186-038-_-Product
This stuff right? Hrm, locally at Microcenter they only have MX3. I guess I'll order this and put the 212+ on with the stock stuff then swap it out later. That sound alright?
I wouldn't pay more than $8 for paste. The stuff the 212 comes with is fine.DrBaalzamon said:
If you want more in case of backup thats fine though.
For a normal build I'd get an ASUS / MSI / ASRock with x6 support (most have this), and USB 3.0Snuggler said:
If you want a SSD later SATA6gbps is also a plus.
But honestly you are only $50 from an i5 and I'd just get an i5-760 + a UD3 or ASUS board.
Hazaro said:
Appreciate the advice. Without GAF, I would be so lost with this stuff.
Looks like I can choose the Core i5 Quad-Core instead as well as this ASRock motherboard and it'll only cost me an extra 5 dollars.
So excited to put this fucker together.
Hazaro said:
To look at it the other way though 50$ is a very large price jump for a PC component and one where most average users and gamers won't notice any difference at all. That being said the 750/760 are beauties and until SNB hit were the defacto choice at that price point expect for the few who wanted AMDs hex cores for transcoding type tasks. So don't feel like they are a bad choice but be aware that for those on tight budgets moving down to a 110$ Phenom II X4 is a great choice as well, and those who have extra money on hand can feel free to jump into the i5's.
This might be a bit unrelated to the general discussions here, but seeing that I can't open a thread yet, this is the most appropriate place to ask.
I want to install an Nvidia card (gt 430) on my windows 7 x64 system which already has a Radeon card (5870, might be relevant), because I want to program in CUDA. I believe this is possible as I have seen hints about it on the web, but no clear instructions/guides as to how to do it.
Can anybody give me a clear step by step guide on the order of things to do? Like say, removing drivers first, installing first hardware, second hardware... and what versions of the drivers ATI/AMD side and Nvidia side support this... I want to know all about it.
So if anybody has tried and succeeded, please let me know how you did it, any help would be appreciated.
I want to install an Nvidia card (gt 430) on my windows 7 x64 system which already has a Radeon card (5870, might be relevant), because I want to program in CUDA. I believe this is possible as I have seen hints about it on the web, but no clear instructions/guides as to how to do it.
Can anybody give me a clear step by step guide on the order of things to do? Like say, removing drivers first, installing first hardware, second hardware... and what versions of the drivers ATI/AMD side and Nvidia side support this... I want to know all about it.
So if anybody has tried and succeeded, please let me know how you did it, any help would be appreciated.
Pain I can't help you on CUDA but I'm sure some people on anandtech or [H] or guru3d can help you.
x4 is in budget for op
SB replaced the i5
x6 isn't even always faster in some encoding applications. It's a niche chip for people who want AMD or bought a board that can use a hexa-core. I've gone back and forth on this and soundly settled on the i5 as the better overall/gaming/emulation chip for the price.
His budget easily lets him get the i5 so it's not a big deal.Shambles said:
x4 is in budget for op
SB replaced the i5
x6 isn't even always faster in some encoding applications. It's a niche chip for people who want AMD or bought a board that can use a hexa-core. I've gone back and forth on this and soundly settled on the i5 as the better overall/gaming/emulation chip for the price.
Hazaro said:
I'd agree with this. My board is an AM2+ limited to 95W CPUs so when I upgraded to the x6 1055T it was a great bridging upgrade for me, it means I can wait for Ivy Bridge.
However if I was building afresh now I'd wait for the fixed sandy bridge. It'll be well worth it.
My brother has a stock e6600 with a 8800 GTS and 2gb ram. What would be his cheapest upgrade road? I'm thinking Hyper 212+ to overclock, 2 gb more ram and a 5770 or 5850, but the latter would maybe be over kill especially since he plays on a 1600x1050 resolution.
Hyper costs something like $25, 5770 is $93 and ram is around $50 so an upgrade for $168 total would be pretty good no?
Hyper costs something like $25, 5770 is $93 and ram is around $50 so an upgrade for $168 total would be pretty good no?
DenogginizerOS
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For Battlefield 3, is it worth upgrading from a GTX260 to a GTX560 Ti now, or should I wait until closer to its release? I am not really having performance issues with BC2 or any other game, but I know things could be better.
DenogginizerOS said:
isn't it coming out in May? I think only the new 6990 is planned before then. There might be price adjustments as stock becomes more readily available, but personally I wouldn't want to wait until the last moment - I'd want it installed and bedded down nicely (and perhaps overclocked) ready for when the game hits. So you could probably wait a couple of months to see if prices soften
DenogginizerOS
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I am guessing the Beta will be out in the Spring so yeah, sooner is better. I will probably wait to see what the SSC and FTW cards from EVGA look like before I jump in.mrklaw said:
We can talk about simple upgrade jobs in this thread too right?
Within a month here I think I'll be making the final decision on getting a new GPU to replace my 8800GT.
Specs:
Dell XPS 420 (store-bought, need to find case dimensions)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
GeForce 8800GT 512
3GB RAM
1440 x 900 screen
425w PSU
Windows Vista 32bit (Will upgrade to Win7 64bit soon)
I can't overclock this system. Upgrading the CPU would basically mean getting a new system entirely.
Price Range: sub-$300 if possible for the GPU and PSU combined. United States.
Need to Run:
Crysis 2
Witcher 2
(Possibly) Dragon Age 2
Portal 2
Deux Ex Human Revolution
(Possibly) Battlefield 3
Need Better Performance On:
Crysis
ArmA II
Bad Company 2
GTA IV
The two candidates I'm looking at are the GTX 460 and the Radeon HD 6850 (which I heard was more powerful than the 460 but required less power).
I probably won't be able to upgrade to anything like a 1080p screen until later in the year, so how much of an improvement would I see on a 1440 x 900 screen? How much will the CPU hold it back if I can't upgrade or overclock it at all? My other main concern is figuring out which cards would actually fit in my current case. How can I look up case dimensions for the XPS 420?
According to my measurements, my space has room for a video card in about the following dimensions:
Length: 10"
Width: 4.5"
Thickness: either 1.75" or 4" depending.
I could be wrong though. Some areas are thicker than others and I don't know if other cards maintain the same shape throughout.
My current 8800gt is 9" long, around 4.5" wide, and half and inch thick.
Within a month here I think I'll be making the final decision on getting a new GPU to replace my 8800GT.
Specs:
Dell XPS 420 (store-bought, need to find case dimensions)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
GeForce 8800GT 512
3GB RAM
1440 x 900 screen
425w PSU
Windows Vista 32bit (Will upgrade to Win7 64bit soon)
I can't overclock this system. Upgrading the CPU would basically mean getting a new system entirely.
Price Range: sub-$300 if possible for the GPU and PSU combined. United States.
Need to Run:
Crysis 2
Witcher 2
(Possibly) Dragon Age 2
Portal 2
Deux Ex Human Revolution
(Possibly) Battlefield 3
Need Better Performance On:
Crysis
ArmA II
Bad Company 2
GTA IV
The two candidates I'm looking at are the GTX 460 and the Radeon HD 6850 (which I heard was more powerful than the 460 but required less power).
I probably won't be able to upgrade to anything like a 1080p screen until later in the year, so how much of an improvement would I see on a 1440 x 900 screen? How much will the CPU hold it back if I can't upgrade or overclock it at all? My other main concern is figuring out which cards would actually fit in my current case. How can I look up case dimensions for the XPS 420?
According to my measurements, my space has room for a video card in about the following dimensions:
Length: 10"
Width: 4.5"
Thickness: either 1.75" or 4" depending.
I could be wrong though. Some areas are thicker than others and I don't know if other cards maintain the same shape throughout.
My current 8800gt is 9" long, around 4.5" wide, and half and inch thick.
Sniper McBlaze
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I know some of you guys tried to talk me out getting SLI, but the amount of performance per dollar is awesome according to an article I read.
How does this rig look: http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/177184/ultimate-kop ?
Are all the parts gonna work? I'm aware of the SB troubles, but I get a guaranty that I can exchange it if I experience any troubles.
Is the cooling enough?
How does this rig look: http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/177184/ultimate-kop ?
Are all the parts gonna work? I'm aware of the SB troubles, but I get a guaranty that I can exchange it if I experience any troubles.
Is the cooling enough?
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iNvidious01 said:
You sure? I'm getting two of those babies and they are already overclocked as hell.
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Shambles said:
I never made it to the boot menu, I would never even get a video signal. The videocard wasn't broken because it worked in another machine. I never got any beeps either, maybe because I had no speakers plugged in yet? I'm pretty sure all the power connectors were attached as all the fans came on (case fan, heatsink, GPU) and I got the steady green light on the motherboard.
I've sent the RAM back and am going to buy a different brand to see what happens.
RedSwirl said:
MSI Hawk GTX 460
and
Seasonic 520w 80+ bronze 41amp
or
Corsair 650TX
Since you can't OC your CPU there's really no reason to go any higher imo.
I am in the same case.
I am looking for an efficient way to replace my stuff with new elements and I am wondering if changing my CPU, my GPU and my mother board (and having the rest untouched) would be a wise move. I change those three essentially because I don't wanna spend much money but I wonder if changing the rest would be obligatory.
Specs
Aspire M3641
Intel Dual Core E5200
GeForce 9800GT 512
4GB RAM
1680 x 1050 screen
240v Max PSU
Win7 64bit
And I am having a good price for a Sandy Bridge 2500k processor, a Motherboard ASUS P7H55D-M EVO and a eVGA GeForce GTX460 SuperClocked EE - 1 GB.
My motherboard is supposedly a Socket 1156 and should accept the CPU. Is it smart from me to focus solely on those three components and leave the rest as it is ? Thanks much in advance.
I am looking for an efficient way to replace my stuff with new elements and I am wondering if changing my CPU, my GPU and my mother board (and having the rest untouched) would be a wise move. I change those three essentially because I don't wanna spend much money but I wonder if changing the rest would be obligatory.
Specs
Aspire M3641
Intel Dual Core E5200
GeForce 9800GT 512
4GB RAM
1680 x 1050 screen
240v Max PSU
Win7 64bit
And I am having a good price for a Sandy Bridge 2500k processor, a Motherboard ASUS P7H55D-M EVO and a eVGA GeForce GTX460 SuperClocked EE - 1 GB.
My motherboard is supposedly a Socket 1156 and should accept the CPU. Is it smart from me to focus solely on those three components and leave the rest as it is ? Thanks much in advance.
PjotrStroganov
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RedSwirl said:
Lol!
For SLI maybe
Sniper McBlaze
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TheExodu5 said:
There you are, man! I put together a new computer for myself after I read about the 560 cards. I know you don't recommend SLI, but I get alot of bang for the buck and want to try it out.
Is my package looking ok?
WyndhamPrice said:
Just to double check I want to make sure that you plugged in both both power connections on the motherboard. Sometimes people only notice the large 24 pin connection that you plug into the motherboard but forget there is a 2nd place you have to plug in power on the motherboard for the CPU. The CPU power connection is either a 4 or 8 pin smaller connection usually near the CPU socket. As far as motherboard beeps go the beeps come from the motherboard itself not speakers so if you didn't hear any it didn't even make it far enough to report any errors while trying to power on which makes me suspicious about the CPU power connection.
RedSwirl said:
Either way a 240W PSU probably isn't going to cut it which means a PSU replacement. And since it's a Dell you're going to have to check if you can even use a standard ATX PSU with it since it may not work. The physical size could be different or the pinouts could be non-standard as well. They used to even run the voltage on the wiring wrong about 10 years ago but I don't think they've gone back to that since then after so many people started burning out computers. Trying to upgrade an OEM machine tends to be a pain in the ass because the manufacturer doesn't want you to upgrade, they want you to buy a whole new machine from them. This is why we're usually so anal about getting people to build for themselves in here. That being said it's been a while since I've dug around in a Dell machine so I don't know how they do things now, only how they did things 5 years ago. I'll be passing off my parts to the woman later this year but she wants to still use her Dell case so i'm looking forward to ripping everything out and then finding out they're usuing something non-standard after I started putting components back in
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TheExodu5 said:
Cool!
Well, it's a 120hz monitor and I from what I heard it would be better for me since I'm buying a powerful computer and a 60hz monitor can only show 60 fps.
WyndhamPrice
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Shambles said:
Do you mean where it says 140W CPU Support? That's where I plugged in the heatsink fan. Or perhaps you mean the square power connection above that one? I think that's just an ATX thing.
For as low as $130 after rebate, it's hard to ignore these GTX460 cards.
My system right now is:
E6600 core2duo
6 gigs ram
GTX260
I run a 1680x1050 resolution. I don't really have many issues with current games but again, $130 is really really low.
What's the opinion? Is it worth the upgrade? I'll move to a sandy bridge setup eventually but as kind of an impulse quick upgrade is that a decent step?
My system right now is:
E6600 core2duo
6 gigs ram
GTX260
I run a 1680x1050 resolution. I don't really have many issues with current games but again, $130 is really really low.
What's the opinion? Is it worth the upgrade? I'll move to a sandy bridge setup eventually but as kind of an impulse quick upgrade is that a decent step?
There should be connections from the power supply to these two locations:
I like to wait until it hurts if I don't upgrade. If you can get by alright with what you have now you'll end up getting more for your money when you move to SB. Of course you can wait endlessly and always get something better but personally I like to wait until I get annoyed with my performance to the point where I don't care about spending the money. Right now i'm running a 4870 and starting to get to the same point as you where an upgrade would be nice but really I'm doing just fine for the time being so I'm waiting until I do a full system upgrade. Up to you though, some people have the money to upgrade as soon as every new GPU hits the market that beats the old leader.
garath said:
I like to wait until it hurts if I don't upgrade. If you can get by alright with what you have now you'll end up getting more for your money when you move to SB. Of course you can wait endlessly and always get something better but personally I like to wait until I get annoyed with my performance to the point where I don't care about spending the money. Right now i'm running a 4870 and starting to get to the same point as you where an upgrade would be nice but really I'm doing just fine for the time being so I'm waiting until I do a full system upgrade. Up to you though, some people have the money to upgrade as soon as every new GPU hits the market that beats the old leader.
Shambles said:Either way a 240W PSU probably isn't going to cut it which means a PSU replacement. And since it's a Dell you're going to have to check if you can even use a standard ATX PSU with it since it may not work. The physical size could be different or the pinouts could be non-standard as well. They used to even run the voltage on the wiring wrong about 10 years ago but I don't think they've gone back to that since then after so many people started burning out computers. Trying to upgrade an OEM machine tends to be a pain in the ass because the manufacturer doesn't want you to upgrade, they want you to buy a whole new machine from them. This is why we're usually so anal about getting people to build for themselves in here. That being said it's been a while since I've dug around in a Dell machine so I don't know how they do things now, only how they did things 5 years ago. I'll be passing off my parts to the woman later this year but she wants to still use her Dell case so i'm looking forward to ripping everything out and then finding out they're usuing something non-standard after I started putting components back in
I just checked again at a photo I took a while ago. My PSU is actually 425w. If I show you guys the photo how much would you be able to tell from the registration stickers?
Is there a way to look up what PSU comes standard with the XPS 420?
Krauser Kat
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has anyone posted the microcenter email yet?
"Please be assured that Micro Center will stand behind every customer who
purchased a system or a motherboard from us that features this chipset.
Intel has already made the necessary change in the manufacturing process
to correct the error, and properly functioning replacements will be available
in approximately 8 weeks.
To minimize the disruption to you, we suggest that you continue to use your
system until replacement parts are available. At that time, we will contact
you with instructions regarding how to get your motherboard replaced or your
system repaired"
Pretty great, i really dont want put it all back together though.
"Please be assured that Micro Center will stand behind every customer who
purchased a system or a motherboard from us that features this chipset.
Intel has already made the necessary change in the manufacturing process
to correct the error, and properly functioning replacements will be available
in approximately 8 weeks.
To minimize the disruption to you, we suggest that you continue to use your
system until replacement parts are available. At that time, we will contact
you with instructions regarding how to get your motherboard replaced or your
system repaired"
Pretty great, i really dont want put it all back together though.
LiquidMetal14
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Alright, Radeon 6950 or GTX 570? I'm buying the parts now.
The Gaming Gamer
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Anyone see this Slickdeals NewEgg combo deal:
AMD Athlon II X4/ASUS mobo/4GB ram/1TB HD/DVD drive/case+PS for $279 MIR
How does it compare to my current gaming PC (ignoring the GPU):
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor
-GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P Motherboard
-CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
-Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
-LITE-ON 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS122-04
-GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
-Thermaltake W0093RU 500W Power Supply and NZXT Black Computer Case
AMD Athlon II X4/ASUS mobo/4GB ram/1TB HD/DVD drive/case+PS for $279 MIR
How does it compare to my current gaming PC (ignoring the GPU):
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor
-GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P Motherboard
-CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
-Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
-LITE-ON 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS122-04
-GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
-Thermaltake W0093RU 500W Power Supply and NZXT Black Computer Case
Krauser Kat
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I like ati, i would go with it, but its a long ass card.LiquidMetal14 said:
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hide your water-based mammals
I haven't put the MB in but it fits in almost any case no?Krauser Kat said:
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