TerryLee81
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Some pics of my rig
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Looks very nice.
What case is this? Can you post a picture of the whole thing?
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Looks very nice.
What case is this? Can you post a picture of the whole thing?
Cymbal Head
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Ok, PC guys, I've been waiting for this moment. My taxes are filed, and I officially have a budget for my long overdue first build ever. My current computer is an aging laptop running Ubuntu, and I'm sorely in need of a Windows desktop. I'm starting from scratch and looking to keep it under $900. It'll be for gaming as well as a digital audio workstation. I don't want to overclock.
My monitor's got a native resolution of 1366 X 900. I don't mind having to dial down graphical details on demanding games, I just want something that will allow me to play them for a few years before I need to upgrade. I won't be pushing the DAW aspect to an extreme or anything, and I already have an external sound card I'll be using.
Here's what I'm looking at:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 (Newegg, $200)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 (Newegg, $110)
Graphics: HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB (Newegg, $190)
Memory: G.SKILL Value 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (Newegg, $45)
Storage: WD Blue 1TB (Newegg, $85)
Power supply: Antec VP-450 (Newegg, $39)
Case: Bitfenix Shinobi (Newegg, $66)
Together with around $110 of other parts and accessories (wireless adapter, 360 pad, mouse/keyboard, optical drive, bluetooth adapter), I'm sitting at pretty much $845.
My main concern with this is ease of assembly. It's going to be my first build ever, so I don't want to have to deal with anything too intimidating. Because it's to be used for recording, please tell if I picked an especially loud part. Finally, is there a ~$50 addition or substitution I could make to improve overall performance?
Thanks for the fantastic thread.
My monitor's got a native resolution of 1366 X 900. I don't mind having to dial down graphical details on demanding games, I just want something that will allow me to play them for a few years before I need to upgrade. I won't be pushing the DAW aspect to an extreme or anything, and I already have an external sound card I'll be using.
Here's what I'm looking at:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 (Newegg, $200)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 (Newegg, $110)
Graphics: HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB (Newegg, $190)
Memory: G.SKILL Value 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (Newegg, $45)
Storage: WD Blue 1TB (Newegg, $85)
Power supply: Antec VP-450 (Newegg, $39)
Case: Bitfenix Shinobi (Newegg, $66)
Together with around $110 of other parts and accessories (wireless adapter, 360 pad, mouse/keyboard, optical drive, bluetooth adapter), I'm sitting at pretty much $845.
My main concern with this is ease of assembly. It's going to be my first build ever, so I don't want to have to deal with anything too intimidating. Because it's to be used for recording, please tell if I picked an especially loud part. Finally, is there a ~$50 addition or substitution I could make to improve overall performance?
Thanks for the fantastic thread.
Koroviev
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Spend an extra $20 to get the 3570K. Go for low-profile Samsung RAM. Consider a 128GB SSD.
electricpirate
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SquiddyCracker
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I am pretty sure that is a tiny bit overkill if you're playing at 900p.
You could probably shave off $100-200 by downgrading the CPU and GPU, and still be able to play maxed out games.
Does someone have a couple of direct links to the Samsung 30nm RAM btw?
All I can find is laptop RAM, so some product name/number would be kinda useful.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£49.81 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard (£141.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£43.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.60 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card (£161.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case (£64.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£85.42 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £819.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-01 23:31 GMT+0000)
Is the above RAM the good stuff?
I've been playing around with Mkenyon's mini-PC builds, and think I got something reasonable balanced. I think I can downgrade the PSU to a 420-520W version, but I'm not sure about what alternatives would fit the Bitfenix Prodigy without too much difficulty. Similarly, the mobo looks a tiny bit overpriced, but I read some reviews and found it to fit the case and be pretty decent when it comes to overclocking.
SquiddyCracker
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Looks nice and tidy!
How's the sound levels on the BeQuiet?
Also, it looks modular - is it?
Did it come with a UK/EU plug?
I am kinda considering the 420W BeQuiet PSU.
How's the sound levels on the BeQuiet?
Also, it looks modular - is it?
Did it come with a UK/EU plug?
I am kinda considering the 420W BeQuiet PSU.
It's as tidy as I can get it with this case tbh, might try a bit more work at it tomorrow.
The Be Quiet! lives up to it's name, I couldn't hear any noise off it. It's a semi-modular one, I got the 430w L8 version although not through Amazon as it wasn't available for immediate dispatch when I was buying it. Yeah it did come with a UK plug despite what the Amazon reviews say, maybe it's just a batch that they had that didn't have it but my one from Ebuyer had it.
Good review on the unit here http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/bequiet-pure-power-l8-430w-cm-psu-review/
Need some help here, I originally followed the Enthusiast build but since showed it to some coworkers etc and now my build has changed. Although the guys I got advice off are in IT, they're not as involved with this stuff so I trust the judgement more here.
Cheers
Your Current Specs: Intel Quad Core / 4GB DDR2 / GIGABYTE EP43 / GEFORCE 9600GT 1GB / 500W P4 ATX HUNTKEY
Budget: $2000 or less + Australia
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 5, Gaming 5. Emulation (PS2/Wii) 3, Video Editing 5, HD Streaming 5, 3D/Model work 3, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback) 5.
Monitor Resolution: Will be buying new monitors later on. Probably in the 23" range.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120? Will you use CUDA accelerated software? Would just like to run games comfortable for a few years without trouble. However the money I've set aside if it will allow me to up the quality I'm all for it. My current build dies when playing certain games after random amounts of time.
Looking to reuse any parts?: 1 x 2TB Western Digital HDD.
When will you build?: What time frames are doable? Are you building this weekend? Do you need it in a week or so? Can you wait a month or two? Would like to start soon but no serious rush.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe...
So the current build I have is:
PSU: Corsair HX-650 V2 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply
RAM: Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SSD Retail Box
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Overclocked 2GB
Still haven't settled on a case either.
I'm sure this might be overkill in a lot of areas, but I have the cash aside so why not?
I tend to do a bit of everything, animating, video editing, modelling, design work, coding etc, and lots of multitasking.
If there's any part I should swap please let me know (and why).
Thanks for any help!
Cheers
Your Current Specs: Intel Quad Core / 4GB DDR2 / GIGABYTE EP43 / GEFORCE 9600GT 1GB / 500W P4 ATX HUNTKEY
Budget: $2000 or less + Australia
Main Use: Rate 1-5. 5 being Highest: Light Gaming 5, Gaming 5. Emulation (PS2/Wii) 3, Video Editing 5, HD Streaming 5, 3D/Model work 3, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback) 5.
Monitor Resolution: Will be buying new monitors later on. Probably in the 23" range.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Is 30FPS acceptable? 60? 120? Will you use CUDA accelerated software? Would just like to run games comfortable for a few years without trouble. However the money I've set aside if it will allow me to up the quality I'm all for it. My current build dies when playing certain games after random amounts of time.
Looking to reuse any parts?: 1 x 2TB Western Digital HDD.
When will you build?: What time frames are doable? Are you building this weekend? Do you need it in a week or so? Can you wait a month or two? Would like to start soon but no serious rush.
Will you be overclocking?: Maybe...
So the current build I have is:
PSU: Corsair HX-650 V2 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply
RAM: Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SSD Retail Box
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Overclocked 2GB
Still haven't settled on a case either.
I'm sure this might be overkill in a lot of areas, but I have the cash aside so why not?
I tend to do a bit of everything, animating, video editing, modelling, design work, coding etc, and lots of multitasking.
If there's any part I should swap please let me know (and why).
Thanks for any help!
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Does anyone know if 16GB of ram would be a significant improvement over 8GB if you don't do video editing or 3D-stuff?
Multitasking wise, I only see myself having twenty-odd tabs open, maybe running winamp in the background, while playing some game at high-max settings at a rez from 1336x768 to 1920x1080.
8GB would be enough for that right?
Multitasking wise, I only see myself having twenty-odd tabs open, maybe running winamp in the background, while playing some game at high-max settings at a rez from 1336x768 to 1920x1080.
8GB would be enough for that right?
Are those scratch marks on the window?
8GB is probably enough. I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure video editing and 3D modelling will use as much RAM as you throw at it. Gaming makes no difference.
Also remove all HDDs from OP. They suck. God damn WDD Black can't handle downloading movies to it while copying movies to it while watching movies from it.
Koroviev
Member
Sarcasm? But I really don't like HDDs. Dinosaur technology.
Gunmetal Gray NZXT Switch 810
Oh God, it's beautiful (TT_TT)
I knew you'd come around.
If I came across a large pool of money, I'd seriously consider building a NAS/Fileserver out of nothing but 500GB SSDs.
Wow that would be impressive. Or a RAM Disk with 1.2TB
Its not preferred and read OP
what do you mean its not preferred?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Your bang for buck will still be better with even the "lower" tier Intel CPU's. Unless you're looking for an APU style setup.
oh... err do you have a suggestion for a intel cpu good for gaming?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
A 2500k even to this date, is great for gaming. I still use it to run everything to this day.
Tallshortman
Member
You're using different currency, both the cpu and gpu you quoted are more expensive than he ones he has listed.
Koroviev
Member
Probably either a Rosewill board or a CM QuickFire Rapid/Pro.
Good. Fast. Cheap. Pick two.
'Maxed out' and '$600 or less' do not belong together. Even going AMD. Price to performance even low end intel beats them with better upgrade options.
Edit: I also forgot "when you buy cheap you buy twice"
Koroviev
Member
Yep. When it comes to PC parts, if the better part is within $20 of your budget, man up and get it. Otherwise, you will get it later. (Seriously, you will.)
I'm already contemplating cards $100+ above my original "budget" of $200 (with which I bought the 2GB TF 7850). And I'm looking at my case (Enermax Ostrog), too...
In what games is the 7850 going to struggle @1080p?
Solid as hell.
If you want to maximize $
erformance, I'd swap out the motherboard for an ASRock Extreme 4, and the HX650 for Seasonic whatever, or even the Antec BP550. HX650 is good though, don't get me wrong. Super super solid.MarshMellow96
Member
Any reason why audio via HDMI would cut out?
kutthoat5150
Member
any advice on a good program to transfer my os into another ssd? my 40 gig is almost out of space and can barely handle Windows updates and now I'm looking to put Windows on another sdd I bought. all my other programs are already on my data drive so it's just Windows I'm looking to migrate over.
Koroviev
Member
I would just do a fresh install...transferring data files is cake, but program files usually give me issues. And it helps me weed out the programs I actually use. But then, I'm partial to spartan storage...I have a 1TB HDD + 256gb SSD and the inferiority of the HDD bothers me.
See for yourself. They measure how much time it takes for the rig to calculate a frame, 16.7ms is 1/60 (60fps) and 33.3ms is 1/30 (30fps).
The reason has to do with threaded performance because a CPU with eight cores is great when they all have something to do. Unfortunately it is hard to make games threaded, many are barely threaded and lot's of slightly older or indie games are just running on one thread which will only tax one CPU. That's why it is important with beefy cores that can provide great single threaded performance, but even though AMD intended for this the Bulldozer architecture was rushed and even performed slightly worse then the outgoing Phenom II CPUs in single threaded performance.
With Intel their naming for desktops with 1155 (consumer socket) usually means this:
Pentium - Dual core
i3 - Dual core with hyper threading*
i5 - Quad core (K can be overclocked to 4+Ghz)
i7 - Quad core with hyper threading* (K can be overclocked to 4+Ghz)
*hyper threading means each core can handle two threads at once, increases threaded performance by 20-40%.
For gaming the i5 3570k (or 2500k, weaker per clock, but overclocks better) is in most games as good as a 1000$ six core i7, but if you plan on building a budget rig and won't play the most CPU intensive games an i3 will do great. Remember that the cores are all the same so a dual threaded game will run just as good on a 3.4Ghz Pentium as a 3.4Ghz i7 (not counting turbo).
Not if you don't mind playing on high or medium instead of very high in some games. I'm pretty impressed at how well my 7870 is doing maxing out Skyrim and Planetside 2 with PS2 being surprisingly smooth at 40-60fps (capped). In the Crysis 3 beta I can play at a mix of very high and high with some SMAA and get 30-60 fps. At high it was pretty smooth keeping itself above 60fps most of the time. It was even (kinda) playable at very high with higest SMAA at like 20fps
Think this was either very high with no AA or the mix I talked about.
Hey guys I was hoping someone could help me with a small problem.
I just installed a Saphire Radeon HD 5450 card. I was wondering why I can't set my resolution to 1920 x 1080? When I try I'm getting the "analog out of range, 67.5 Khz/60 Khz" screen. My monitor is a LG Flatron W2242TQ.
I just installed a Saphire Radeon HD 5450 card. I was wondering why I can't set my resolution to 1920 x 1080? When I try I'm getting the "analog out of range, 67.5 Khz/60 Khz" screen. My monitor is a LG Flatron W2242TQ.
piratepwnsninja
Member
I'm building a MAME cabinet and have been looking at this case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811237026
Think a GTX650 would fit in there OK? I know it's overkill for MAME, but I'm actually going to be using Hyperspin to run some of my Steam games like SFIV and Rayman Origins (or anything else that will work well with just a joystick and buttons) on it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811237026
Think a GTX650 would fit in there OK? I know it's overkill for MAME, but I'm actually going to be using Hyperspin to run some of my Steam games like SFIV and Rayman Origins (or anything else that will work well with just a joystick and buttons) on it.
kutthoat5150
Member
Thanks I thought of this to but would I have to save a backup of my files to my HDD first then just restore them after windows is installed? Not exactly sure how to go about it. I'm assuming windows would recognize all my installed programs on my HDD so I don't have to install them again but I'm not entirely sure.
You have a really large budget, check the OP, go with one of the higher teir builds. I suggest the fractal R4 as a case, GTX 680 with kind of money.
Get a SSD 128 or 256.
Your gonna love your PC.
Post additional questions.
Arlecchino
Member
If the $/gb is similar enough between 2TB and 3TB WD Greens, is there any reason not to get the 3TB? Or does shit get weird over 2TB? And if not, is the 3TB WD Green the best option for upgrading mass storage?
memecomplex
Member
Hooked up my old Viewsonic (Trinitron tech) to test out some stuff and wow... CRT is still king!
1600 x 1200 @ 99Hz and I'm an FPS GOD
Seem to notice more microstutter in SLI tho... :-(
1600 x 1200 @ 99Hz and I'm an FPS GOD
Seem to notice more microstutter in SLI tho... :-(
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Can more people take photos of their rigs?
Great idea. I should dig up my 19" crtHooked up my old Viewsonic (Trinitron tech) to test out some stuff and wow... CRT is still king!
1600 x 1200 @ 99Hz and I'm an FPS GOD
Seem to notice more microstutter in SLI tho... :-(
I will be soon. Before then after. Heh.
BAH! That pic trying to disprove the TITAN benchmark looks fake.
http://i.imgur.com/oGPVPHY.jpg
Why didn't it do the same for the date?
I'm still hanging on to hope and am still willing to part with $1800 for 2.
http://i.imgur.com/oGPVPHY.jpg
Why didn't it do the same for the date?
I'm still hanging on to hope and am still willing to part with $1800 for 2.
I did play Saint's Row The Third maxed out and it ran well. Of course, it's no Skyrim but I was very happy with the performance.
Basically, I really doubt hazaro would recommend a build that would not run games well, regardless of budget. Also using a MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GB.
VincitOmnis
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I'm holding out. I don't want to drop $499 on a GTX 680 then the Titan comes out and destroys all competition.
I saw a article benchmarking an i3 3225 or 3220 I don't remember which with a 7970 in various games and it really just depended what game you were playing as to whether the i3 would hold you back or not. Some games like Skyrim saw as much as 30FPS difference between an i3 3225 with a 7970 v an i7 3770k with 7970 and other game saw as little as 2FPS difference between the two processors. Different games use your processor differently, most games don't require much of it, but then there are a few game that will.
I been trying to find the article but have yet to find it again.
I been trying to find the article but have yet to find it again.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
I didn't know the processor affects fps
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