Yeah seems like that is the case, thanks! He will be returning them both in the next couple of days
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Yeah seems like that is the case, thanks! He will be returning them both in the next couple of days
sazabirules
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DVI also did not work.
I have a question, that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to.
I have 4 slots for ram, I originally had 4x2gb ddr3s in there.
I just bought 2x8gb, and installed them. I now have 20gb ram(i plan on getting the another 2x8gb in the future)
I'm fine with leaving it at 20gb right? Nothing terrible is going to happen? I always see 2gb/4gb/8gb/16gb/32gb in people's machines, so I was just hoping I'm correct with my odd ball RAM amount
I have 4 slots for ram, I originally had 4x2gb ddr3s in there.
I just bought 2x8gb, and installed them. I now have 20gb ram(i plan on getting the another 2x8gb in the future)
I'm fine with leaving it at 20gb right? Nothing terrible is going to happen? I always see 2gb/4gb/8gb/16gb/32gb in people's machines, so I was just hoping I'm correct with my odd ball RAM amount
I'd guess that if they're paired correctly (slots 1 and 3 for the 2x4 and 2 and 4 for the 2x16) you wouldn't have a problem.
The timing difference between them would be more of a problem than the actual number, i'd think. Some mobos are more sensitive than others in that regard. I don't know if in that configuration your entire system is bottlenecked by the slower ram of the two, but I'd guess yes.
There's an old saying that no motherboard likes to have all their memory banks filled.
Unless you're running some heavily Database Servers or Video editing, the difference between 16 and 20 is minimal.
I'd probably run at 40, but at any sign of problem, removing those 2 4 sticks would be the first thing I'd do.
Also, do a double check on the timings of the ram modules (try downloading CPUz if you don't want to crack open your case again, as CPUz will show the SPD mode your ram is running at and the SPD speeds the ram support per slot). Depending on the speeds, the 8 gig could be bringing your overall memory access down.
Noisy Ninj4
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Unless you really need that 4GB, you should go with 2x8GB. Doing that should improve your overall reliability by easing the load on your memory controller and may improve your bandwidth/memory latency.
Both in the same color coded ram slots, usually 1/3 or 2/4, assuming it's a dual channel MB.
Noisy Ninj4
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Depends on the board. 1/3 or 1/2 is best depending on which slots are set up together for dual channeling. Check your motherboard's manual if you have it.
Most of the time, they'll be the same color slot. I've seen a couple boards that didn't do that, though.
Check your motherboard manual to see if you have DualChannel support.
Dual Channel means that your system can both read and write to the ram at the same time. Usually, the ram sticks need to be installed in specific slots for that.
That's usually why there's two color slots on the ram banks. You're supposed to match the colors with the ram sticks you're putting into them. USe this image as an example:
The 2x8 sticks should go on the Blue slots while the 2x4 sticks should go on the black slots (or vice-versa).
however, some motherboards are the opposite and you're supposed to put them on DIFFERENT colors (those are older motherboards and that's no longer a thing, afaik). That's why you really should check your motherboard manual.
For gaming and stuff, I wouldn't bother with the extra 4 gigs - they'll just stress the memory controller and most certainly one of those sets of RAM will run at a slower pace (as I doubt they're the same specs).
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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Is the 500$ build in the OP still pretty good? My room mate wants to get into PC gaming after the abysmal Xbone announcement (he's hardcore 360 guy). Currently he's juggling buying a pre built from Cyberpower and sticking with that until he can guy a beefier GPU around Christmas time.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Wait a couple weeks. New stuff is coming out.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
I can't speak to the SoundBlaster Z, but depending on what you need your sound card for, the Xonar DG is a nice little card for cheap. I got one maybe a year ago and for 2.1 setups or for headphones its been fantastic for the price.
Live Free or Die
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I have another question. I built my PC about 5 or so years ago, and I'm thinking of upgrading the CPU, right now I have an Intel Core i5 650 3.20GHz and my motherboard is an ASUS P7P55D. Do you guys think my cpu is good for awhile yet?
Are you overclocked? You could find a Socket 1156 i7 and drop it in there for probably 100-150. Might give you a little bit of a boost. What do you have a for a GPU and are you satisfied with the performance you're getting? Your CPU is right on the edge of keep/replace. If you're happy with it you can probably keep it for a while. If you aren't, Haswell and it's new socket would be a good upgrade.
Live Free or Die
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No, I haven't overclocked. My graphics card is a GeForce GTX 460, I do plan on upgrading that in the next few months. I can run most of the older games on high/max settings, but I'm starting to notice that some of the newer games I can't run on max anymore. Another thing I'm planning on doing is getting into livestreaming, so I want to have enough power for doing that as well.
Infinite Justice
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Another day of hardly turning on my PC...
Feels bad man
Feels bad man
sazabirules
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Is it possible my PC isn't working because I didn't use the standoffs when putting my motherboard in the case? Some were already in the case where I screwed it in but not all of them. I hope I didn't fry everything.
Yes, open it up and line up the stand offs that are needed and the ones that are needed only (The holes that line up). The motherboard will short out if it is not placed properly.
Manp
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you have to arrange them to match the holes on the motherboard. if you left some there where they're not supposed to be yes you can fry the motherboard.
just take it out and start all over.
sazabirules
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Manp
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doesn't mean anything.
Celcius
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Today is a good day.
I just got an offer for a straight trade, Titan for my 690.
I also put an offer on this, my future back yard.
It goes to that treeline in the distance
Congrats, sounds like an awesome day.
sazabirules
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Alright thanks. My friend who loves messing with computers is going to help me figure out what I did wrong. I'm probably one of the few people who is dumb enough to possibly fry my brand new parts.
Today is a good day.
I just got an offer for a straight trade, Titan for my 690.
I also put an offer on this, my future back yard.
It goes to that treeline in the distance
congrats
and about that backyard..NOPE id be paranoid as fuck
Wife has okay'd building a 24x24 LAN/project building. Awwwww yissss
That's what Border Collies and a nightvision scope on my rifle are for.
I wouldn't go 1080p at that size.
Could you be tempted by 120Hz? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00A2KZ2XS/
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Today is a good day.
I just got an offer for a straight trade, Titan for my 690.
I also put an offer on this, my future back yard.
It goes to that treeline in the distance
Congratulations, man! That's a freaking killer backyard. Awesome.
Sure dwarfs my exciting delivery
But that's okay, a house should be more exciting. Hope it works out for ya!
I actually just purchased this earlier, I looked at previous posts and saw this suggested, for a bit more than my budget I thought it was worth it. Thanks for the recommendation though, makes me feel better about my purchase lol.
Ha that worked out well then!
I really hate EVGA.
They are making me open the package, then register the Titan, in order for me to get a refund and I have to pay $60 to ship it back. On top of that I have to wait 2 weeks for a refund.
This whole thing has been a nightmare. This is why I hate ordering parts online. Nothing but trouble and a money sink.
Never ordering from EVGA again, never ordering Online again. I hate this.
They are making me open the package, then register the Titan, in order for me to get a refund and I have to pay $60 to ship it back. On top of that I have to wait 2 weeks for a refund.
This whole thing has been a nightmare. This is why I hate ordering parts online. Nothing but trouble and a money sink.
Never ordering from EVGA again, never ordering Online again. I hate this.
Wait a week for Haswell. Don't buy a dead socket.
On GPU, a 660/660Ti is a great card. Also look at a 7950 for much better performance/$.
I like the Gigabyte 670 a lot.
It is, and unless any information changes regarding Haswell i3 launch it'll stay there.
This is why Amazon is first on the list of US part sellers.
eVGA does have a good warranty policy, but will try and sort out everything before hand which can be frustrating. You shouldn't have to pay back shipping fees, I'd have asked for a higher up.
PC GAF i need some help
I have some files and folders in my pc in my libraries that i can share.
Is it possible for people outside my wifi to connect to my files and view them? Or only people that are connected trough my modem or wifi?
Same goes for my mybook live. I have it hooked on to my modem and can view said external hdd on my ps3 and ipad etc. Is it possible for people outside my wifi and modem to view what is on my mybook live?
I have some files and folders in my pc in my libraries that i can share.
Is it possible for people outside my wifi to connect to my files and view them? Or only people that are connected trough my modem or wifi?
Same goes for my mybook live. I have it hooked on to my modem and can view said external hdd on my ps3 and ipad etc. Is it possible for people outside my wifi and modem to view what is on my mybook live?
Congratulations, man! That's a freaking killer backyard. Awesome.
Sure dwarfs my exciting delivery
But that's okay, a house should be more exciting. Hope it works out for ya!
Those are some familiar looking boxes
. I remember thinking I got shafted with a 10yo refurb unit, when I first saw that VP655 box. Turns out alphacool hasn't learned the magic of nice packaging. Have fun!
Sorry dude. This one is all on you. Everyone has been talking about new cards soon for weeks but you go ahead and buy a thousand dollar card anyway? It's a lesson.
bryan12112
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Horse Detective
Why the long case?
That's unbelievably stupid.
I know it's on me, but I never figured the there would be a difference of ~5fps between the Titan and GTX 780. It's absurd that that even exists. I figured the Titan would at least be ~15-20fps better, but this is ridiculous. Oh well, lesson learnt.
What even?
What do you mean what even? The difference in frames between a GTX 780 and Titan is roughly 5fps in multiple games. The Titan of course being the superior card.
I was never expecting the GTX 780 to literally be on par in some games or lacking by barely 5fps in multiple games. There is no point in buying a Titan now.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Yodel surely is the worst courier company I have ever come across.
Delivery was supposed to be on monday, I get a notification that I was supposed to have received my package at 10am friday but apparently I was not in. Except I was. So fuck that firstly. Then I go to the depot today (saturday) to collect it, but the guy at the reception tells me that they went out to be dispatched again today, but they will try to deliver it twice. I wont get back in time for the first one because the van would be there soon, but no worries the guy would try again later. If it does not arrive by 5 to call them. So 5 goes buy and I call them, guy tells me no worries they deliver up to 10 o clock. It is quarter past 12 and fucking nothing. Not even a little card to say they missed me again or something.
So now I have my computer fixed and ready to go, but no RAM. Cannot not even use my old stuff because thats ddr2. So basically fuck Ebuyer for using Yodel, and especially fuck them for not using the policy of allowing that shit to be dropped off with the neighbour.
Bank holiday weekend as well. Will have to wait till tuesday. GG.
Anyone else ever had experience with this courier company?
Delivery was supposed to be on monday, I get a notification that I was supposed to have received my package at 10am friday but apparently I was not in. Except I was. So fuck that firstly. Then I go to the depot today (saturday) to collect it, but the guy at the reception tells me that they went out to be dispatched again today, but they will try to deliver it twice. I wont get back in time for the first one because the van would be there soon, but no worries the guy would try again later. If it does not arrive by 5 to call them. So 5 goes buy and I call them, guy tells me no worries they deliver up to 10 o clock. It is quarter past 12 and fucking nothing. Not even a little card to say they missed me again or something.
So now I have my computer fixed and ready to go, but no RAM. Cannot not even use my old stuff because thats ddr2. So basically fuck Ebuyer for using Yodel, and especially fuck them for not using the policy of allowing that shit to be dropped off with the neighbour.
Bank holiday weekend as well. Will have to wait till tuesday. GG.
Anyone else ever had experience with this courier company?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Eh, I got my Titan for $750. I'm happy spending an extra $100 for the better performance, more VRAM, better computational performance, and knowing I have "the best."
But I agree - I did expect the Titan to beat the 780 by AT LEAST 10% across the board; not 3-8%.
But I agree - I did expect the Titan to beat the 780 by AT LEAST 10% across the board; not 3-8%.
I forgot to mention that I had a limited budget. That's the issue, the Gigabyte card looks nice but it's even more than the 670 EVGA that I was looking into.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130802
Yeah Yodel can be a bunch of useless fucks, and City Link too. If there is ever the option for DPD I always take it.
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