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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Dont get a OCZ PSU they re not very good, get a Seasonic S12II-520 520W instead (i know, its twice the price...)
Also do not get a WD Green, its the slow ones, get a WD caviar black or a Seagate Barracuda.
U can get cheaper RAM here : http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006YG94Y2/
chickdigger802
Banned
preordered a ps4... but am quite curious how multiplat games will compare to my current pc rig
(3570k, 16gb ram, 7870xt)
(3570k, 16gb ram, 7870xt)
Pretty similar, though your system will be able to run most of thost E3 multiplat games at 1080p with 16.7ms frame times fairly easily. Comparing raw power versus raw power, your system definitely had the edge, especially in the CPU department.
Change that mobo to the UD3H or GD55. Go for low profile RAM.
840 Pro is faster with a longer lifespan. The speed you won't notice in day to day work. What I'd do is get the 250GB 840, same price as a 128GB Pro roughly.
Swap to 8GB of RAM instead. Consider swapping to this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119
If it's cheaper then go for it. As for the 7950 vs 660 Ti, have a read over this http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-GeForce-GTX-660-Ti-and-Radeon-HD-7950
Change that mobo to the MSI GD55. About £10 more but a lot, lot better. That OCZ PSU isn't great either, you'd be better off with this 450w XFX http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...tm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker Maplin do them for £35 if your local has stock http://www.maplin.co.uk/450w-xfx-pr...echnology-587552?c=AffilWin127079&t=216430611
Don't get a WD Green as your main drive, they're slow as fuck. Change to this http://www.dabs.com/products/wd-1tb...4_1371075688_6275373c063bbcdab7bdfdd73f6e9e86
I'd change that monitor to this LG IPS too http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008F7GW2K/ It's an IPS rather than a TN. Would only go TN if you're going 120/144Hz.
EatinOlives
Member
OK, false alarm! I instead called customer support by phone and they're issuing a refund, without a restocking fee either.
So heart attack averted. Whew.
Just a reminder for the UK people ordering from Dabs, using the code PAYPAL20 will take £20 off any order over £200. Also, the combination of getting product links from WAE and putting them on Flubit has been a great combo. Saved me quite a bit so far.
I've had my 650w OCZ for quite a while now, and it had worked really well for me. So much so, I'm keeping it for my next build.
I've had my 650w OCZ for quite a while now, and it had worked really well for me. So much so, I'm keeping it for my next build.
Ally1987
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Just ordered my new gaming-pc. What do you guys think?
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX TITAN 6GB PhysX
- Fractal Design Define XL R2 Black Pearl
- Silver Power SP-S750 750W PSU
- Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor
- Corsair H60 Hydro Series CPU Cooler
- ASUS P9X79 LE, Socket-2011
- Crucial 16GB RAM DDR3 (8GBx2), Sport,1600MHz, 1.5V, CL9-9-9-24
- Samsung SSD 840 Series 250GB 2.5"
- WD Desktop Blue 500GB HDD
- Samsung DVD Writer, SH-224BB
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX TITAN 6GB PhysX
- Fractal Design Define XL R2 Black Pearl
- Silver Power SP-S750 750W PSU
- Intel® Core i7-3930K Processor
- Corsair H60 Hydro Series CPU Cooler
- ASUS P9X79 LE, Socket-2011
- Crucial 16GB RAM DDR3 (8GBx2), Sport,1600MHz, 1.5V, CL9-9-9-24
- Samsung SSD 840 Series 250GB 2.5"
- WD Desktop Blue 500GB HDD
- Samsung DVD Writer, SH-224BB
Haha jesus, could employ that fucking driver as a digital weapon of mass destruction.
Regret Truth
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Thanks for input on the PSU! I'll also grab the 250GB SSD.
I bit the bullet and purchased my new PC parts. A combination of amazon and newegg:
SeaSonic G Series 550-Watt ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply SSR-550RM
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (OEM) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
DVD-ROM
Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 128 SATA_6_0_gb Solid State Drive MZ-7PD128BW
Fractal Design Define R4 Cases, Black Pearl (FD-CA-DEF-R4-BL-W)
MSI Gaming N770 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card $399.99
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K $249.99
MSI Z87 MPOWER LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Extreme OC Flagship High Performance Triple CFX/ SLI Platform Intel Motherboard $234.99
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609ES2LX0 (This came free with the motherboard)
This is my first pc in a few years. A big step up from, my now dead, old computer which was a Q6600 and a 8800 GTS.
SeaSonic G Series 550-Watt ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply SSR-550RM
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (OEM) System Builder DVD 1 Pack
DVD-ROM
Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 128 SATA_6_0_gb Solid State Drive MZ-7PD128BW
Fractal Design Define R4 Cases, Black Pearl (FD-CA-DEF-R4-BL-W)
MSI Gaming N770 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card $399.99
Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K $249.99
MSI Z87 MPOWER LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Extreme OC Flagship High Performance Triple CFX/ SLI Platform Intel Motherboard $234.99
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609ES2LX0 (This came free with the motherboard)
This is my first pc in a few years. A big step up from, my now dead, old computer which was a Q6600 and a 8800 GTS.
All quality components. Have fun putting it together and report back here with some photos for us to ogle at!
Pretty solid, but you will want 4 sticks of ram for that Quad Channel motherboard.
Otherwise that is one serious powerhouse.
All quality components. Have fun putting it together and report back here with some photos for us to ogle at!
I will. I hope it's smooth sailing. I hope the 120GB SSD is big enough. I was regretting it but I am installing Win 7 and only a couple of other things on it. If a game, I will uninstall after finishing it.
This should be OK, 8GB what you're looking for?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00AZMDROE/
Edit - It's 1.65v, probably could undervolt it to 1.5v.
That it is, thanks again as always!
Just in case you don't see my edit, it's 1.65v according to Amazon. Probably could undervolt it to 1.5v, but it seems doing that drops you to 1333MHz :\ http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX18C9X3K2_8X.pdf
I'll see what else I can find.
Edit - There is this 1600MHz stuff at 1.5v http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004Y4X9GK/
How do you know what's good and bad RAM. That's one thing I have not known what to look for when recommended.
Is this any good. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0037TO5C0/
edit: I see this is 1.65v, guessing this is a bad thing.
Is this any good. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0037TO5C0/
edit: I see this is 1.65v, guessing this is a bad thing.
Brand can often be a factor as are timings, although I don't fully get them yet. Need to read more. Voltages too, that RAM you linked will only hit 1600MHz at 1.65v which is higher than you really should go with IB afaik, but good RAM (which Kingston is) should work still when you undervolt at those speeds, I just couldn't guarantee it.
This stuff here was phenomenal before the price shot up http://www.cclonline.com/product/84...800C11-1600MHz-30nm-Dual-Channel-Kit/RAM0612/
Yeah, thats the stuff I have. Only bought it because everyone was telling me too. Was £38 when I ordered back in January. Wow the price has rocketed up.
God damn, EVGA finally came out with their 4GB model of the 770 but it's $510. I really thought it'd be only $50 more for the 4GB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130925
Think I'm just going to settle for 2GB...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130925
Think I'm just going to settle for 2GB...
I'm thinking of doing that paired with a 4gb 770. Just keep wondering if the i7 hyper threading is the safest bet for next gen gaming if its more widely used compared to the i5
Mr. Wonderful
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Yup. Got mine ordered off Amazon last night. But now I'm waiting for it to go back in stock before it ships...
Ok. This is what I'm considering. Long time since I've built a rig. Main focus will be for gaming 1080p. Coming from an old Duo E8400.
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.22 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.23 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($188.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($171.70 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.21 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.18 @ Newegg)
Total: $920.52
I decided to carry over my optical drive and GPU (GTX 460). I wanna try to hold out until the new AMDs release this year or the Nvidia next year. My cpu has been holding me back for a while. That's the first priority.
A few questions...
- Any significant difference between the 212 Evo/Plus? The plus is a bit cheaper.
- What's the opinion on hyper-threading and gaming? Will it become more prevalent in the future? I don't use apps often enough that take advantage of hyper-threading, really. The only reason for the 3770 would be a kind of "future proof". Would the 3570 be a wiser choice?
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.22 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.23 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPOWER ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($188.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($171.70 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.21 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.18 @ Newegg)
Total: $920.52
I decided to carry over my optical drive and GPU (GTX 460). I wanna try to hold out until the new AMDs release this year or the Nvidia next year. My cpu has been holding me back for a while. That's the first priority.
A few questions...
- Any significant difference between the 212 Evo/Plus? The plus is a bit cheaper.
- What's the opinion on hyper-threading and gaming? Will it become more prevalent in the future? I don't use apps often enough that take advantage of hyper-threading, really. The only reason for the 3770 would be a kind of "future proof". Would the 3570 be a wiser choice?
So to be clear, this WAE site is dodgy right?
I've never shopped with them directly, so I'm honestly not sure. Reviews seem 50/50. As I say, I just use the low prices for good Flubit offers!
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
So I ordered a new gaming PC based on Haz's spreadsheet since I'm tired of buying overpriced gaming laptops.
I got:
MB :ASROCK|Z77 PRO4-M Z77 LGA1155 R
CPU :INTEL|CORE I5 3570K 3.4G 6M R
GIFT NVIDIA METRO LAST LIGHT
MEM :4Gx2|GSKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
VGA :GIGABYTE|GV-N660OC-2GD GTX660 R
PSU :ANTEC|450W VP-450 RTL
CASE :BITFENIX BFC-SNB-150-KKN1-RP
HDD :WD Blue 1 TB
Hopefully I'll be able to join the modern era of gaming and not have to settle for medium/low 0xAA anymore.
Also, I don't know what the consensus is on processors is since I haven't been following the scene but is an AMD 6/8 core better or worse than a I5 or I7 quad?
I got:
MB :ASROCK|Z77 PRO4-M Z77 LGA1155 R
CPU :INTEL|CORE I5 3570K 3.4G 6M R
GIFT NVIDIA METRO LAST LIGHT
MEM :4Gx2|GSKILL F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL
VGA :GIGABYTE|GV-N660OC-2GD GTX660 R
PSU :ANTEC|450W VP-450 RTL
CASE :BITFENIX BFC-SNB-150-KKN1-RP
HDD :WD Blue 1 TB
Hopefully I'll be able to join the modern era of gaming and not have to settle for medium/low 0xAA anymore.
Also, I don't know what the consensus is on processors is since I haven't been following the scene but is an AMD 6/8 core better or worse than a I5 or I7 quad?
Eraser_Arcade
Member
So Im looking in buying a secondary HD and Im trying to understand which Drive would be more beneficial for me. (Im planning on using it to store all my games/Steam folder)
Either the Western Digital Blue 1 TB HD (WD10EZEX), or the Western Digital Black 1 TB HD (WD1002FAEX)?
Either the Western Digital Blue 1 TB HD (WD10EZEX), or the Western Digital Black 1 TB HD (WD1002FAEX)?
TheGoddamn
Member
Thanks! Most of the core components were the ones I had already been planning, and so it was extremely serendipitous that I found this rig for sale.
I'm pretty strapped for disposable cash for the month as a result, though I'm (oh man, PC gaming) already thinking of the next step. My planned rig was to use a 7970 instead of the 670. Should I sell the 670 and buy a 7970 or just wait for next year's GPUs? SLI in the future is also a possibility, but seems messy. I'm coming from an ATI Mobility 5650, and as silly as it sounds, I'm much more comfortable with something like RadeonPro as opposed to nVidia Inspector.
Or maybe I should take this as an opportunity to learn about nVidia and their featureset. Although the 320.18 WHQL issues did not make a very good first impression. Had to scrub it and go back to 314.22 (thanks, Hazaro!).
Shadowhaxor
Member
Key differences between the WD Black and Blue drives are that the Blacks have lower seek times and offer faster reads and writes thanks to a on-board dual processor. The Blacks also tend to be of a higher quality and offer a 5 year warranty vs 3 years for the Blues.
The cache isn't a big deal anymore sine the SATA bus is than enough to keep up with data moves.
So for gaming, the WD Black is what you want if you want the most optimal performance. Also.... seeing how you mentioned Steam, you may want to opt for a 2TB drive instead
No Microcenter, Fry's or Compusa / Tigerdirect in the area?
GhostRidah
Member
so I installed windows 8 fine but it doesn't recognize my Ethernet adapter, tried putting in my bios disk but it doesn't recognize it, which is weird because if I put the windows disc it will recognize it. Ugh
Not so much. I'm going to check the few local shops that actually sell computer parts around here tomorrow just in case.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Ah crud, Amazon already shipped my WD Blue 1TB.
So an odd issue, my monitor doesn't want to display an image when my PC boots up. I can get it to display if I hit the image source button, but otherwise it will stay in sleep mode. It's not a big issue atm since I am just setting up the BIOS before installing windows, perhaps it's because it's connected via HDMI?
God damn this new PC is quiet though, I would swear it isnt even on save for the lights. Also BIOS are so advanced and nice looking now lol.
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Yeah now that I'm in Windows, the monitor won't come out of sleep when I move my mouse around either. Weird.
double edit
Seems like one of the plugs was not in all the way, or it needed to be unplugged. Either way its fixed now.
God damn this new PC is quiet though, I would swear it isnt even on save for the lights. Also BIOS are so advanced and nice looking now lol.
edit
Yeah now that I'm in Windows, the monitor won't come out of sleep when I move my mouse around either. Weird.
double edit
Seems like one of the plugs was not in all the way, or it needed to be unplugged. Either way its fixed now.
Dat price premium... might have to wait for some rebates to drop money on the 4GB model.
I don't remember if I asked it but if going Haswell, is there any way to know if I'm getting the new stepping that fixes the USB3.0 issues when they ship mid-July or would I have to wait longer for them to all leave the market? I'm considering waiting for that chipset revision.
charlequin
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Man, waiting on the 770 4GB is bumming me out.
Regret Truth
Member
I'am about to order some parts for a new build but I wanted to check in with you guys to see if there's anything that should be switched out. I'am mainly going to use the computer for gaming and working in level editors.
I have a couple of questions though:
Is there any reason to choose 3770K instead of 4770K? I've been meaning to overclock the CPU and I know that there's some heating issues with Haswell. But should this effect someone that has very little overclocking experience (and probably won't go crazy with it)? Is the CM Seidon 120 XL a good choice for this? Any other reason why I should choose a 4770K over a 3770K?
I'am going to try and overclock the GPU and I'am not just sure what kind of PSU I will need for that. I'am farily certain a 750W should suffice.
From what I've read speeds over 1600 Mhz on RAM does't do much for most games but will it give a noticeable speed boost in other programs?
The specs:
G.Skill 8GB (2x4096MB) CL11 2133Mhz Ripjaws Gaming
1TB WD Caviar Blue
Samsung SSD Pro Basic 840-Series 256GB
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB SC ACX
be quiet! Dark Power Pro10 750W 80+ Gold Modular
Intel Core i7 4770K 3.5 GHz (Haswell)
MSI Z87-GD45 GAMING ATX
CM Seidon 120 XL
Fractal Design Define R4
I have a couple of questions though:
Is there any reason to choose 3770K instead of 4770K? I've been meaning to overclock the CPU and I know that there's some heating issues with Haswell. But should this effect someone that has very little overclocking experience (and probably won't go crazy with it)? Is the CM Seidon 120 XL a good choice for this? Any other reason why I should choose a 4770K over a 3770K?
I'am going to try and overclock the GPU and I'am not just sure what kind of PSU I will need for that. I'am farily certain a 750W should suffice.
From what I've read speeds over 1600 Mhz on RAM does't do much for most games but will it give a noticeable speed boost in other programs?
The specs:
G.Skill 8GB (2x4096MB) CL11 2133Mhz Ripjaws Gaming
1TB WD Caviar Blue
Samsung SSD Pro Basic 840-Series 256GB
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB SC ACX
be quiet! Dark Power Pro10 750W 80+ Gold Modular
Intel Core i7 4770K 3.5 GHz (Haswell)
MSI Z87-GD45 GAMING ATX
CM Seidon 120 XL
Fractal Design Define R4
I've been told not to cheap out on the PSU so I might just save up some extra money over the summer to make sure that I'm getting a good quality build. That monitor looks pretty slick too for quite a bit cheaper. Thanks for the help guys, it's been a long time since I've looked at PC components so I'm a little out of the loop haha.
Need some help. Built a new PC since my old one died on Friday. I pretty much just bought a new mobo and CPU, then reused all my other parts from my old PC. So here's what I have:
MSI Z77 MPOWER
i5 3570K
GTX 670
Everything works fine, got Windows installed, but for some reason my graphics card isn't being detected. Onboard video works, but I can't see my card in device manager. When I try to install the drivers from nvidia, it says that it can't find any compatible graphics hardware. The video card is powered and the fans are running, so I don't think it's a power issue. Any suggestions?
Edit: Going to bed but I'll check for responses in the morning.
MSI Z77 MPOWER
i5 3570K
GTX 670
Everything works fine, got Windows installed, but for some reason my graphics card isn't being detected. Onboard video works, but I can't see my card in device manager. When I try to install the drivers from nvidia, it says that it can't find any compatible graphics hardware. The video card is powered and the fans are running, so I don't think it's a power issue. Any suggestions?
Edit: Going to bed but I'll check for responses in the morning.
Did you plug your video cable into the graphics card?
Yeah, no output.
Just checked reviews and the HyperX do not run at 1600MHz either unless you up-volt to 1.65v.
Would these ones be decent alternatives? £10 more but faster and more overclocking potential judging from reviews.EDIT: Eh... apparently it depends on your system whether it runs at 1600MHz stock or not.
Ally1987
Member
Pretty solid, but you will want 4 sticks of ram for that Quad Channel motherboard.
Otherwise that is one serious powerhouse.
Are you sure? It ses 8xDDR3
Interesting news courtesy of bit-tech: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/06/13/noctua-anc/1
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AikMzJc9gcY&feature=player_embedded
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