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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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I thought it would be much more complicated. Thanks for the quick answers.
But is the CPU fan spinning?
Thanks, will give this a try when I get home. Stayed up until 2:30 trying to figure it out. Only got 3 hours of sleep and now I'm paying for it at work lol.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I just said that some fans are spinning, because I can hear it. But I don't know which ones. Then I asked if I could check whether or not the fans are spinning through that program.
Shadowhaxor
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I didn't say go out and buy a Core2Duo or a Quad2Duo, I said it was enough for most games and that's the truth. There are still tons of games that take advantage of 2 threads let alone 4 threads.
I was making a observation of those vs the i5 that was in question, meaning that i5 will last a while just as those previous processors have / still do. As long as the processor is decent and doesn't bottleneck the gpu you can last quote some time. In retrospect a i5 can handle any video card on the market and hell even a Core2Duo or Quad2Duo can handle up to a GTX570 before it starts to bottleneck the card.
That's all I was saying.
Here's pic of my case inside and from area where it's at. I know cables are mess but they're out of the way and ones inside I never look at and ones on outside I've been moving a lot so haven't gotten around to tidying up.
http://i.imgur.com/8OtasGo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wBZCeqC.jpg
Fan on heatsink blowing toward exhaust one on the back, ones on top aren't connected because they make weird noise and I'm not sure if I should have them on even. Soundcard is below graphics card and just noticed little thing that moved out of place next to it is dust guard.
Not sure what else I can do except fix top fans and turn them on if that will help. Graphics card has been going 40-50 idle and 80+ under load with fan speed matching the temp 1:1 so I don't know wtf to do anymore, even if I fix top and put bottom fan again I still feel that's a lot. Should I return the card? Got no other PC to test with..
P.S. Reducing voltage didn't do anything.
http://i.imgur.com/8OtasGo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wBZCeqC.jpg
Fan on heatsink blowing toward exhaust one on the back, ones on top aren't connected because they make weird noise and I'm not sure if I should have them on even. Soundcard is below graphics card and just noticed little thing that moved out of place next to it is dust guard.
Not sure what else I can do except fix top fans and turn them on if that will help. Graphics card has been going 40-50 idle and 80+ under load with fan speed matching the temp 1:1 so I don't know wtf to do anymore, even if I fix top and put bottom fan again I still feel that's a lot. Should I return the card? Got no other PC to test with..
P.S. Reducing voltage didn't do anything.
Regret Truth
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Hmm...wouldnt going with the Segate be a much better option? Am I missing something here?
Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive $87.99
Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST2000DM001 $98.77
Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive $87.99
Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST2000DM001 $98.77
CrazY CroaTia said:
I thought it would be much more complicated. Thanks for the quick answers.
Well, it turns out, that this Laptop HDD has no connector for a SATA cable. It plugs directly into a connector, which has like 20 pins.
The USB adapter, desn't look like it will fit either.
What now?
Question for PC-Gaf:
I'm thinking of upgrading to a GTX770. Is it a bad idea to do that right now? I'm going to be buying a ps4. I have a GTX570 right now. Would this card (the 770) get me through the upcoming generation running games at 1080p/60fps, or should I wait a year?
I'm thinking of upgrading to a GTX770. Is it a bad idea to do that right now? I'm going to be buying a ps4. I have a GTX570 right now. Would this card (the 770) get me through the upcoming generation running games at 1080p/60fps, or should I wait a year?
It a die shrink to 20nm so the performance per watt should be much much better. The current 700 series is just a re-branding of the 600 series with slightly higher clocks and the introduction of a cut down titan as the GTX780 but still keplar architecture.
Shadowhaxor
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In terms of performance there would be a slight difference, the plus however is the Seagate is an entire 1TB more, outweighing the slight performance dip that you wouldn't even notice.
Keep in the mind that the GTX770 is basically a rebadged GTX680 with a slight performance bump, you would see a difference in performance (35-45% maybe more) compared to the GTX570. Hell I'm getting a PS4 and I just upgraded to a GTX780.
I've also heard that Maxwell could access system RAM. What's it gonna do with that though? Load small enough games all at once or something?
Whiteshirt
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You're from Australia yeah? I use these Medi-Swab packs to clean thermal paste off heatsinks. They're basically lint-less swabs soaked in rubbing alcohol. You should find them at any chemist.
At my old workplace, we actually used meth spirits to clean heatsinks and processors. I have no idea if its good or bad but it worked OK as far as I know.
Guys I've got a Graphics Issue need help: My card is listed below:
GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II
when ever I play Battlefield 3 everything progressively goes crazy as in textures mess up and black shapes appear this has never happened before and not sure what it is? the GPU temp is around 38c. My driver is up-to-date also.
wanted to post a pic but no sure if I'm allowed.
GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II
when ever I play Battlefield 3 everything progressively goes crazy as in textures mess up and black shapes appear this has never happened before and not sure what it is? the GPU temp is around 38c. My driver is up-to-date also.
wanted to post a pic but no sure if I'm allowed.
Whiteshirt
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Apparently the 320.18 drivers from Nvidia have been giving non-GTX700 series cards trouble. Roll back your drivers and it should be OK.
Thanks man, I had a hunch it maybe due to the new driver but over looked it, I'll roll back until further driver update is available.
Shadowhaxor
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Regret Truth
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Thanks!
So now my bro is building a pc from scratch. It's mainly for gaming above all else, web surfing, pictures, movies, etc. I convinced him to let me ask you guys for a top notch build so he isn't gonna go crazy ordering parts until we have GAF's opinion.
He wants to build around a gtx 780 with an intel i7 3770k. The biggest dilemma we face is the monitor. We're both eye candy kind of guys but ive seen the difference with a 120hz monitor and I know it is night and day (although the colors aren't as nice). Do they have 27 in 1440p 120hz yet?
His budget is ~$2300 but I'll hook him up with whatevr extra he needs so its not really an issue. Thanks in advanced!
EDIT: Water cooling is a no no. We dont know how to mess with that stuff
He wants to build around a gtx 780 with an intel i7 3770k. The biggest dilemma we face is the monitor. We're both eye candy kind of guys but ive seen the difference with a 120hz monitor and I know it is night and day (although the colors aren't as nice). Do they have 27 in 1440p 120hz yet?
His budget is ~$2300 but I'll hook him up with whatevr extra he needs so its not really an issue. Thanks in advanced!
EDIT: Water cooling is a no no. We dont know how to mess with that stuff
Nope. It's a shame.
I've removed thermal paste with nail polish remover before. I'm sure it's awful because it has all kinds of added scents and leaves residue and whatnot, but it got the job done when I wasn't patient enough to wait another day. I don't OC though, so temperature is hardly a concern.
GhostRidah
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Anyone with the fractal design r4, do you leave those padding things inside the case even though I am not putting a fan there?
dragonelite
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So you guys think this is a good choice. I want to upgrade my desktop.
And after some browsing the web i just want to get a new mobo and a Intel Core i5 3570K for now.
So anybody have experience with the MSI Z77A-G45 MOBO.
And after some browsing the web i just want to get a new mobo and a Intel Core i5 3570K for now.
So anybody have experience with the MSI Z77A-G45 MOBO.
Chinbo37
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I have the MSI z77 empower which I like a lot. Love DAT MSI bios.
I worry about nail polish remover being caustic to the outer layer of PCBs, so I've never used it. I had a painted Gundam model once, and I dropped a part that I had mispainted into a jar of nail polish remover and it ended up melting some of the plastic as well, not just the paint.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100010&Tpk=arcticlean&IsVirtualParent=1
Buy that if you plan on doing multiple builds or swap out heatsinks. It's worth its weight in gold.
Yeah, that's to reduce noise.
GhostRidah
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Thanks, just making sure so I don't cause any heating issues.
Anybody have any luck overclocking their refresh rates on their monitor? I have a Samsung S27B350H and from the research I've done it should run at 75hz. Also, on AVS their is a thread about doing this with 120hz televeisons. According to the thread, some televisons can actually display a 120hz signal natively. Thoughts?
Impossible with HDMI bandwidth.
It might be displaying at 120hz, but content isn't being sent to the display at 120hz.
PoweredBySoy
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Well you may have heating issues, because it is essentially insulation. But that's when you add fans as needed. Generally:
Noise <---------------------------->Heat
Choose where you want to be on the scale.
Is there a write up on how different GPU coolers/fans from different companies work in one place without having to dig through a bunch of reviews? I'm interested to see what would be a good choice or what has a good pedigree on being quiet or good at cooling (or a good mix of both)
Quick question: I am currently running a 3750K and a GTX580 off a SilverStone Strider Plus ST50F-P 500W power supply. I want to replace the 580 with a titan or 780 and I am wondering what sort of overclock I could expect to maintain with the new card in place and my current power supply.
That's called IDE.
Nope.
Effectiveness at cooling is kind of tertiary at this point, because they all do a great job at that. Right now, EVGA's non-reference cooler seems to be the most quiet. ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI all offer great products that all perform really similar. Sapphire and PowerColor are good too.
The only ones that I get mixed reviews on are HIS and XFX.
Total power draw will be around 300W non overclocked, about 350-400 overclocked to the brim.
You will need to use a PATA (IDE) 2.5" USB enclosure.
Thanks so much! You rock mkenyon.
how about overclocking my PC monitor?
Crimsonclaw111
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I already bought regular sized RAM when it was cheap, so I guess I'm screwed on that part. Oh well, it'll just require a bit of extra effort in maneuvering pieces.
I did change the mobo to the MSI GD55 though, thanks for the suggestion.
PoweredBySoy
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK MY LIFE.
BF3 just crashed again, twice in a row, while using IE as the browser. So I guess my new fix doesn't work after all.
Plan D: I just installed an old 5870 I had lying around, so we'll see if this clears it up. But at this point I'm not sure if I want it to or not. If the problem goes away, that means it's my 670 - and since it never did this before that would likely mean that 320.18 screwed up my card, which would mean I would have to drive down to Nvida and knock over some magazine racks.
PC sucks. I'm going full WiiU.
EDIT: Man do this 5000's run hot and loud.
Just reformat. It'll take 20 mins to get back into windows fully installed if you have an SSD. Then just restore game backups or what have you. Two hours tops to get you back to where you were.
It's definitely what I'd be doing in that situation.
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Also, just to be clear, there is no conclusive evidence that the drivers are killing video cards. It's all speculative at the moment. Lets wait for something more substantial before getting the pitchforks.
It's definitely what I'd be doing in that situation.
*edit*
Also, just to be clear, there is no conclusive evidence that the drivers are killing video cards. It's all speculative at the moment. Lets wait for something more substantial before getting the pitchforks.
The EVGA ACX cooler is looking like the best of the bunch right now. It has *really* nice fans on it that run super quiet.
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