Is final fantasy 7 not as big as people think?

After the beautiful ff7 remake I understand why the series clicks for people the fast combat of course the crowd favorite cloud I'll probably get the sequel.
 
When you consider a giant chunk of the community had Xb1/ps4 as their 1st console. It's no doubt that some of us older gamers are left wondering why our fav games get left out.

You have to remember there is always an influx of new gamers who never touched your old ass crusty games.
 
I only played the original FF7 in 2019 after playing Xenogears. I don't think FF7 holds a candle to Xenogears, but was a good game none-the-less. I didn't care for the combat in FF7R as the "action" combat felt worthless. Just mindlessly attack and dodge to build up your gauge.

I did actually like the story, but I completely understand how someone who loves the original would hate them changing that.
 
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I think the brand is fine and I just think that JRPGs overall are disconnecting more and more with western audiences, the more they seemingly become like J-dramas and anime.

The second point, "JRPGs overall are disconnecting more and more with western audiences, the more they seemingly become like J-dramas and anime", is why the first point "it's fine" is wrong.

Well, let me clarify that a bit. Yes the brand is "fine" as it is. But I wasn't talking about fine, I was talking about having the potential to have almost Mario-like success.

You say that audiences are disconnecting due to certain aspects of the games? It's almost like if they had a different overall plan for the brand, people might not be disconnecting anymore...which was my point, to manage it differently.

Imagine if a new 2D Mario game sold "only" 5 million units after being out a year or two, and we simply pointed out that platform games are not as popular anymore, overshadowed by the Fortnites and CODs. The Mario brand would be "fine" with those sales, and if anyone thought the brand was capable of much more greatness, we'd just say hey, platformers man different times...

As we know from reality however, that 2D Mario is capable of 30m because Nintendo manages the Mario brand in a very deliberate way. Final Fantasy is capable of this, but they won't do it.
 
Boom was also a very glitchy, buggy mess of a game. Let's not try to re-write how bad it was apart from it's story and gameplay. Again, there's no FF like that. Yes, there are some of them with questionably told stories, plot, and setting, but overall they are still at best 7 out of 10 games with their own big fanbases. Show me that classic Sonic Boom Wii U fanbase.
You can't project your own subjective opinion on the fanbase and act like it's conclusive when simple internet searches outside and even on this board will show otherwise.
Ok, so where is your proof of anything you just said?

You can't do math? FF7 remake sold 3.5 million (supposedly) in three days.

1/3 of that is 1 million, assuming it where to hold that for most months of 2020 it would easily be between 8-10 million from now if it held that level for the first half of 2020.

It's not 2021, in march, if FF7Remake sold 8-10 million or MORE Square would have said something from now, so it's clear that based on what we know the game was frontloaded, assuming there was no cache to that 3.5 million announcement.
 
It's still hasn't coming to other platforms though, especially PC.

I think it's just the testament of PS not being worthy of being the exclusive platform for AAA RPGs anymore. You need MHW PC for example else MHW will be called a flop if it released only on PS.

FFXV sells that much only because of bargain bin prices, selling on multiple platforms.
Yeah I'm tired of hearing how well ff15 sells. The game didn't take long to go on sale and has been cheap for a long time.
 
You can't project your own subjective opinion on the fanbase and act like it's conclusive when simple internet searches outside and even on this board will show otherwise.
Yes, and that simple internet search told me that the only fans of the Sonic Boom property are fans of the TV show.
 
It's still hasn't coming to other platforms though, especially PC.

I think it's just the testament of PS not being worthy of being the exclusive platform for AAA RPGs anymore. You need MHW PC for example else MHW will be called a flop if it released only on PS.

FFXV sells that much only because of bargain bin prices, selling on multiple platforms.
Interesting that you say that. Where do you think the sales from FF7 and X came from? FFX sold like 8 mil over 16 years....FF7 sold 10M over 10 years including those bargain bin sales.
 
Interesting that you say that. Where do you think the sales from FF7 and X came from? FFX sold like 8 mil over 16 years....FF7 sold 10M over 10 years including those bargain bin sales.
I'm talking about now not the past, and those games have also been released on multiple platforms across generations including Steam, even on Switch.
 
I'm talking about now not the past, and those games have also been released on multiple platforms across generations including Steam, even on Switch.
Those sales listed were only for PS1(FF7) & PS2 (The FFX/X-2 HD Remaster's sales are counted separately)
 
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It is in the name of the title. It is a re-making of the events.
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Is it? Then are we talking about PS1 and PS2 sales here in 2021?
You said the only reason FFXV sold was because of bargain bin sales and also downplayed FF7R sales on PS4. So with a little research I just pointed out that they all benefitted from "bargain bin" sales
 
You said the only reason FFXV sold was because of bargain bin sales and also downplayed FF7R sales on PS4. So with a little research I just pointed out that they all benefitted from "bargain bin" sales
Isn't that true that the bargain bin prices helps? Even you didn't deny it either.

Also I never downplayed only FF7R, just AAA RPG in general, being released as exclusives when Time had changed. Of course, FF7R sales will bounce back after the PC release.
 
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The fact that this game is still Playstation exclusive and not even out on PC must mean Sony dropped a buttload of $$$$ on the exclusively right? Microsoft has had the more powerful console since the PS Pro and whatever the fuck series they released dropped and it goes without saying PCs should be able to run it.

It must have been a good amount to lose out on all those other platform sales.
 
When the leadership and guidance exits a project, of course the project goes into decline.

Ever since the man who established Final Fantasy was fired from the company, fans have been waiting for his successor to show. No one ever took up the mantle and the series has lost the plot (literally) ever since. Style suits marketing, but the soul is long gone.
 
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you're trying to compare a classic videogame made for enthusiasts in the 90s to f2p made for casual idiot streamers of today

the classic is a real classic with a real impact back then, the remake is nothing but nostalgia for a niche market in decline
 
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