KaiserBecks
Member
It was a PlayStation IP though until a couple of months ago.
Is PlayStation no longer doing exclusives?
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MMaRsu
Member
They dont have any direct competitors anymore until Xbox releases their next gen console.
We need Xbox to go all out to offer a smidgen of competition to Sony.
Sadly Sony has become too popular, so they dont need to put in any effort.
kaizenkko
Member
Did you ever ask yourself why Wii U only sold 13 million units (forcing Nintendo to run away for the console)?
At the same time, why PS4 sold 100+ million units while the majority of games were also on PC?
Keep using Xbox as a prove of something is just nonsense. Xbox have fail for a lot of reasons, since bad communication to incredible bad marketing strategies.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Sony is being run by braindead retards, Don Mattrick tier, it's not a good sign for the platform at all.
Bernardougf
Member
LoL.. ok.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
The unfortunate reality we live it, and to recover from this, it will take close to a decade. That's just fucked to even think about.
JCK75
Member
This statement won't hold up when Xbox becomes a PC.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Sony relies heavily on being a cheaper option than a gaming PC to play most games, first and third.
The output of FP studios this gen is embarrassing.
The output of FP studios this gen is embarrassing.
Fess
Member
Yup that's it. For those who can wait there is barely any reason at all to have a PS5 as long as they have a capable PC.
But I want DF to make a serious comparison what you actually need to go head to head with PS5 Pro on PC. I doubt you'll get there with the whole package, performance and silence, even when paying 2x a Pro. PC gaming isn't really the same market as I see it.
Viperbah
Member
I haven't noticed any significant changes in Sony's strategy over the past several years. They have typically released 2 to 3 major games exclusively for the PS5—whether first-party titles or otherwise—and then ported them to PC about a year later. This year, this is Death Stranding and Ghost. I don't expect this cadence to change going into PS6.
Schmendrick
Banned
bullshit³
KeepThemEyesOpen
Member
Still crossing my fingers for a Demon Souls remake port on PC. I still got my copy just in case it never happens. What did it for me to move on from the ps5 and sell it was ff16 coming to pc.
Bert Big Balls
Gold Member
A few years back, I didn't even know what "exclusives" were. Honestly I don't think the vast majority of people who play games care either way. Only ever seems to be a huge debate online.
Shifty1897
Member
Short version: Basically all most first party studios were working on GaaS games that reviewed poorly internally and were cancelled. So now they're all starting over with new projects that you won't see for a few more years.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yea that's bullshit.
Sony has done a very poor job of managing their studios and their costs have spun out of control... $300 million for Spiderman 2 is ridiculous considering what that game was.
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Humdinger
Gold Member
I guess the point has already been made, but there is an important distinction between "full exclusives" and "console exclusives." It's not an arbitrary distinction, because console exclusivity plays a critical role in the success of a console. It gives console gamers (most of whom have no interest in PC gaming) a reason to choose your console over the other guy's. Granted, this is becoming less of a factor as Xbox fades from the scene as a competitor. But console exclusivity isn't going away.
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splattered
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Pc and switch today, xbox tomorrow 
Sony are probably looking at how much money MS is making on the Sony stores now licking their lips
Sony are probably looking at how much money MS is making on the Sony stores now licking their lips
Kvally
Member
I believe it will be ported at some point in the next 6 months IMO. Doucet said they want to expand it beyond the PS5.
Agreed, I don't think that will ever happen. PD wants their stuff perfect. They can't control their perfection in a PC environment with all the entry level machines, different gpus, cpus, etc.
Gojiira
Member
Yeah its literally this. Nothing first party has come to Xbox. The only former exclusive that did was Death Stranding 1 after 5 years…Death Stranding 2 is again exclusive so long wait for a Xbox release
ArtHands
Banned
Until Dawn remake didn't take a year. Same for the upcoming Marvel fighting game
Kvally
Member
Some of them are 6 months now (TLOU Part 1). Even day and date for remasters. It used to be like 5+ years but now it's much more common to be released way sooner now to PC. Spider-Man 2 was like 15 months.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I think we have Chinese gamers to thank for all this. Chinese is the #1 language on Steam now. It's an enormous market. It's probably smarter to reach these customers where they already exists rather than spend huge customer acquisition costs.
rm082e
Member
I had way more issues with my 360 and PS3 during that generation of hardware than I've had with my PC since I built it in 2011. I had RROD twice and my original PS3 went YLOD and had to be replaced due to the board actually cracking it warped so bad. My PS4 didn't have hardware issues per say, but it would get clogged up with dust and turn into a hair dryer until I disassembled it to the point where I could get to the heat sync. Similar story on the PS5 but not as bad. I also had random game crashes, system restarts, error codes that didn't provide any help, etc.
By comparison, I've never had any issues with drivers across 14 years of running Nvidia cards, and now a couple months of AMD. I've never had any hardware failures on modern PC hardware (since 2011). I've occasionally (once every few years) had a game crashing at boot up. When that happens, a quick google search gives me a specific troubleshooting step that fixes the problem in 5 minutes.
This idea that console gaming is trouble free and the PC is a wild wild west just doesn't hold water.
bitbydeath
Member
That's the big difference here, a google search going for an unknown amount of time (mins/hours/days/weeks) vs something directly handed to you in a patch because all hardware is the same on consoles.
MMaRsu
Member
It is for people who are literally clueless about pc's though, and I think that's what's holding them back.
They are too scared to even inplug a Dualsense controller, download a program that lets them use it on every game.
That for them is already a "hassle"
bitbydeath
Member
We get people on here all the time talking about what they're going through to fix their PC, and they are PC enthusiasts.
I've done my time with Windows tinkering, (aside from a work PC) I'm done with it.
I'd rather just game.
playbignbox
Member
Buying a PlayStation for exclusive games is over, it's much more worthwhile to wait and play the definitive version on PC, especially since ports are getting faster and faster.
Fbh
Member
Aside from the Switch, consoles aren't about exclusives anymore
They are basically about being a relatively affordable way to play most major games, that's optimized to be easy to use, requiere minimal setup from the user and work well from the couch out of the box. Sony still gives you the added bonus of a timed exclusivity window for their non AAA games.
They are basically about being a relatively affordable way to play most major games, that's optimized to be easy to use, requiere minimal setup from the user and work well from the couch out of the box. Sony still gives you the added bonus of a timed exclusivity window for their non AAA games.
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hououinkyouma00
Member
The planet where you pretend to not know things in order to create some doom and gloom. You also have to incorrectly say stuff like no exclusives exist, PS is porting everything to PC, and PS is going third party to get some extra points.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
I know this is probably a joke but honestly I think this is probably accurate
I think whatever we see with the next Xbox, high probability it's a PC
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Exclusives? Seem to me like they are barely making any games.
Hopefully the gaas scam goes away soon and they go back to making single-player games instead of cancelling multi-player gaas turds.
Hopefully the gaas scam goes away soon and they go back to making single-player games instead of cancelling multi-player gaas turds.
tmlDan
Member
What IP? you think they own Marvel?
Signalis
Member
I think he's mistaken in regards to the right. Sony does own a lot of the Marvel characters (movie rights, but I think they fully own everything related to the Spider-Man universe). If he thinks Sony owns Marvel then I want what he's smoking
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Zacfoldor
Member
I could always tell Jim Ryan was an out of touch money first short cheese type of guy. I would have thrown a party at MS myself when he got in. That said, he did setup the business side pretty well. Just fucked up their 1st party pipeline for a decade trendchasing. Worst mistake Sony ever made. Only MS being worse in every way saved them. Had real competition existed Sony would be blown out but nothing came along and now we are library locked so Playstation for another 10 years at least.
What is it about old, non-gamer execs that the only thing they know how to do is copy the market leader? Basically they tried to turn Playstation into Activision. I think Jim did a terrible job. It harmed my hobby and he should feel bad about it because he did it to try to raise money at Sony's fanbase's expense, but it is what it is. He's gone and we are left to pick up the pieces. Closing Japan studios and blocking out Bloodborne is just one of the many dumbass errors Sony has made over recent years.
What saved us from Sony's absolute worst predilections? It was probably a couple of things.
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Kvally
Member
Agreed. Probably will play Xbox and PC games.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Fixed that for you.
But here's the truth though, PC is like the sea-bed of gaming. Everything ends up there... eventually.
The thing is though, most people don't want to wait - FOMO and all that - so timed exclusives still matter almost as much a permanent exclusives.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
It's not just that. Steam users and players were untapped market for Sony until recently. They found out not releasing their most popular exclusive IPs on the platform was just shooting themselves in the foot financially.
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RetroGamingUK
Member
Kinda
Want a convenient box under your TV?
Buy a PlayStation
Want a convenience portable?
Buy a Switch
Want to tinker with something?
Buy a PC
ArtHands
Banned
Why not both? They can co exist in the PS ecosystem
hououinkyouma00
Member
This isn't exclusive to Sony though so pointing them out is stupid. This is an industry wide problem that affects a lot of developers.
Hudo
Member
This is the correct answer here.
Y'all talking about exclusives like as if Sony's first-party were still in their PS2 golden days.
tommyleelynn
Member
You're missing the point of why I said that. They sunk billions, created studios, hired and laid off studios and teams, shipped and canned multiple projects and games chasing the GaaS:
• Factions 2
• Concord
• Marvel's Spider-Man online
• Destruction All-Stars
Plus all the ones we don't know about. Instead of doing what they were good at that was sure fire and cheaper money, they burned it on all multiple consecutive gambles like a broke father with a mortgage to pay off hoping to hit the lottery one more time.
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tommyleelynn
Member
The hell you can't. They have a fiduciary responsibility to make money, not to lose it.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I kinda hope so. At this point can't really afford to be buying all these consoles and keep my pc up to date.