ISIS declares creation of new "Islamic Caliphate"

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My guess is because of its pre-Islamic origin and that it houses (used to house?) idols of other deities.

It used to have idols of pagan gods prior to the Muslim conquest. It's a big part of early Muslim history that they smashed the idols and appropriated it for what they believe its original purpose was, which is to say that it was a house that Abraham built to worship God in.

When Muslims pray, they face towards Mecca because that's where the Kaaba is. I can't imagine why ISIS would want to destroy it. That can't be right.
 
Regarding the five year plan map: Its ambitious and scary to consider, but totally unrealistic. It functions less as an actual strategic plan, and more of a propaganda piece for ISIL.

As a fighting force, I still have my doubts they can completely defeat the Shia militants just within Iraq. But, if they do, they will have no chance against the Saudis or Israel. They also probably can't match up against Turkey or Jordan. And forget about pushing into Russia or Europe - no chance there.

How can they possibly defeat the rest of the Iraqi militants? US and Russia will keep throwing mulitary hardware to the opposition. Its always a matter of how many civilian will be killed in this civil war. Iraq is not 'Nam.
 
Regarding the five year plan map: Its ambitious and scary to consider, but totally unrealistic. It functions less as an actual strategic plan, and more of a propaganda piece for ISIL.

As a fighting force, I still have my doubts they can completely defeat the Shia militants just within Iraq. But, if they do, they will have no chance against the Saudis or Israel. They also probably can't match up against Turkey or Jordan. And forget about pushing into Russia or Europe - no chance there.

shhh be afraid, be very afraid. They could destroy the US at any moment.

/john mccain
 
^Saw this tonight, ISIS announced their five year plan:

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This is quite disturbing

hahahahahaha
 
They are very good at getting everyone to really, really hate them. I would bet that this is the peak of their strength and I expect Mosul to be retaken eventually.

They are a good illustration of what religious fundamentalism looks like when taken to its logical conclusion. I sincerely hope their atrocities will lead to a popular turn against this form of extremism.
 
Watched one of their propaganda videos out of morbid curiosity and it was truly insane with their drive by shootings...

and now, I realize they are crazy and all, but would it kill them to get a tailor on their side?

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^Saw this tonight, ISIS announced their five year plan:

Image with translated names:
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This is quite disturbing

Hey, I've played Civilization with cheat codes on, too.
 
To be fair, The Land of Alkinana could make an interesting title for a Zelda game.
 
Watched one of their propaganda videos out of morbid curiosity and it was truly insane with their drive by shootings...

and now, I realize they are crazy and all, but would it kill them to get a tailor on their side?

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guy third from the left looks just like a good friend of mine lol.

that podcast posted earlier was a good listen, thanks
 
Corden the whole area off and come back in a few hundred years, maybe then they would gotten out of the stone age. Western civilisation should have never taught them how to use fertiliser(farming/bomb making) or given them arms. They were causing enough damage own their own with swords and camels. Now they have AKs, trucks loaded with kgs of explosives and an ideology that allows for any act to be justified, what could possibly go wrong?
 
Corden the whole area off and come back in a few hundred years, maybe then they would gotten out of the stone age. Western civilisation should have never taught them how to use fertiliser(farming/bomb making) or given them arms. They were causing enough damage own their own with swords and camels. Now they have AKs, trucks loaded with kgs of explosives and an ideology that allows for any act to be justified, what could possibly go wrong?
Who are 'they'?
 
CHEEZMO™;119134628 said:
Good to know it was "western civilisation" who taught the people of Mesopotamia agriculture.
I would be laughing if it wasn't for the fact that he is serious. I suppose people like Kysen enjoy being laughing stocks.
 
CHEEZMO™;119134628 said:
Good to know it was "western civilisation" who taught the people of Mesopotamia agriculture.

Mesopotamia is the original west. They should have kept the secret to themselves so that they wouldn't get retaught down the line
 
ISIS member Abu Turab Al Mugaddasi said that they would destroy the Kaaba in Mecca: “If Allah wills, we will kill those who worship stones in Mecca and destroy the Kaaba. People go to Mecca to touch the stones, not for Allah.”

Why is always straight to killing with these guys? Just wreck the stone if you're that bothered, geez.
 
Corden the whole area off and come back in a few hundred years, maybe then they would gotten out of the stone age. Western civilisation should have never taught them how to use fertiliser(farming/bomb making) or given them arms. They were causing enough damage own their own with swords and camels. Now they have AKs, trucks loaded with kgs of explosives and an ideology that allows for any act to be justified, what could possibly go wrong?

Time to bomb those shits to allah.

Are mods going to let trash posts, and a full on racist first post like that pass ?
 
These dudes wouldn't get out of Iraq/Syria. They've never fought a legit military. They don't know what they are doing.

Turkey would destroy them. Israel would destroy them. Iran would destroy then. They best stay where they are, but it looks like their local victories are inflating their sense of power. That's a mistake, on their part.

Basically, these guys guys wouldn't get through a single country surrounding them, not even Jordan. Jokers. Their map will never happen, ever.
 
Watched one of their propaganda videos out of morbid curiosity and it was truly insane with their drive by shootings...

and now, I realize they are crazy and all, but would it kill them to get a tailor on their side?

M6mBnDg.jpg

At least these guys don't wear flip-flops like the militants they murdered.
 
Islam and western values just aren't compatible, that's the reality of it. Things are only going to get worse as radical Islam takes over in Europe in the next 60 years or so.
 
Boss★Moogle;119156447 said:
Islam and western values just aren't compatible, that's the reality of it. Things are only going to get worse as radical Islam takes over in Europe in the next 60 years or so.

Really?
 
Are mods going to let trash posts, and a full on racist first post like that pass ?

You don't think that ISIS should be destroyed? His post about bombing was quite blunt but these guys do need to be destroyed for doing what they do and plan to do.
 
These dudes wouldn't get out of Iraq/Syria. They've never fought a legit military. They don't know what they are doing.

Turkey would destroy them. Israel would destroy them. Iran would destroy then. They best stay where they are, but it looks like their local victories are inflating their sense of power. That's a mistake, on their part.

Basically, these guys guys wouldn't get through a single country surrounding them, not even Jordan. Jokers. Their map will never happen, ever.

Seriously, they are getting way in over their heads. They best be contempt with what they already got because if they push towards any the surrounding countries (Turkey, Iran or even Saudi Arabia) they will go extinct. Even if they somehow manage to pass Iran and Turkey and make their way through Armenia up to Georgia they will be facing Russia, and then they will truly be fucked.
 
Search for some of his posts from the past. He's like the western version of kobashi or whatever ISIS supporter you have on here that tries their best in not appearing to be one (just call them 'brothers' and it's all good).
 
You don't think that ISIS should be destroyed? His post about bombing was quite blunt but these guys do need to be destroyed for doing what they do and plan to do.

The problem with bombing indiscriminately is that it's indiscriminate. Innocent people will die. Just being a young man could be enough to warrant a missile fired at you. Massive drone strikes might convince the average person that ISIS has the right idea. As ISIS is essentially promising a stable and unified Sunni paradise, more foreign attacks would destabilize the nation and turn public opinion toward the ISIS.
 
Watched one of their propaganda videos out of morbid curiosity and it was truly insane with their drive by shootings...

and now, I realize they are crazy and all, but would it kill them to get a tailor on their side?

M6mBnDg.jpg

5 years from now when these guys have conquered from Spain to India we're going to look at this picture and say "boy, that escalated quickly".
 

Some people like Suen like to read more into stuff but the reality is that it's simple math. Muslims in Europe are having 6-7 kids while natives are basically only having 1 so with these current birthrates it only takes about two generations for the muslims to become the majority.
 
Remember when Jews, Christians, Buddists, Taoists, Atheists, Scientologists, Mormons and any other religion other than Islam planned on taking over the world through massive military conquest and terrorist action? Yeah me neither. Clearly not all Muslims are terrorists but world governments must address the fact that for some reason radical terrorists seem more drawn to islam and perverting the positive message it has. I have no idea what we can do to stop young and under-employed from turning to these horrible ideologies considering how poorly the economy of the middle east is sure to do in the near future (especially once the oil runs out)

Please ignore the crusades those were a long time ago :(
 
Boss★Moogle;119159447 said:
Some people like Suen like to read more into stuff but the reality is that it's simple math. Muslims in Europe are having 6-7 kids while natives are basically only having 1 so with these current birthrates it only takes about two generations for the muslims to become the majority.

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A Pew Research Center study, published in January 2011, forecast an increase of Muslims in European population from 6% in 2010 to 8% in 2030.[17] Pew also found that Muslim fertility rate in Europe would drop from 2.2 in 2010 to 2.0 in 2030. On the other hand, the non-Muslim fertility rate in Europe would increase from 1.5 in 2010 to 1.6 in 2030.[17]

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Search for some of his posts from the past. He's like the western version of kobashi or whatever ISIS supporter you have on here that tries their best in not appearing to be one (just call them 'brothers' and it's all good).

You sound like the typical person who's lived a privileged and sheltered life and thinks they're the morality police. Should anybody say anything bad about somebody who's not white, they're obviously racist, doesn't matter what atrocities they commit or anything like that; if you're not tolerant of their behavior you're obviously a racist. Sorry but I will never tolerate blatant intolerance and I will always have the courage to speak out against groups that continuously fight to subdue basic human rights. People like you are exactly why Europe will fall.
 
Corden the whole area off and come back in a few hundred years, maybe then they would gotten out of the stone age. Western civilisation should have never taught them how to use fertiliser(farming/bomb making) or given them arms. They were causing enough damage own their own with swords and camels. Now they have AKs, trucks loaded with kgs of explosives and an ideology that allows for any act to be justified, what could possibly go wrong?
Not only is this post full of prejudice, it's also extremely ignorant. Do you know just how much civilization, technology, and advancements came from the Middle East?
 
The problem with bombing indiscriminately is that it's indiscriminate. Innocent people will die. Just being a young man could be enough to warrant a missile fired at you. Massive drone strikes might convince the average person that ISIS has the right idea. As ISIS is essentially promising a stable and unified Sunni paradise, more foreign attacks would destabilize the nation and turn public opinion toward the ISIS.

I disagree... it wouldn't turn support towards ISIS as much as people think, however, it will generate more ill will towards said foreign forces and countries. There is no viable statistic that shows this happen in anywhere near a concernable level. Why do you think U.S still uses drone strikes massively?

Anyways, I didn't read what he said as "bomb the countries and civilians". I read it as, destroy ISIS without mercy. No western nation massively bombs enemies indiscriminately (at least right now).
 
Remember when Jews, Christians, Buddists, Taoists, Atheists, Scientologists, Mormons and any other religion other than Islam planned on taking over the world through massive military conquest and terrorist action? Yeah me neither. Clearly not all Muslims are terrorists but world governments must address the fact that for some reason radical terrorists seem more drawn to islam and perverting the positive message it has. I have no idea what we can do to stop young and under-employed from turning to these horrible ideologies considering how poorly the economy of the middle east is sure to do in the near future (especially once the oil runs out)

Please ignore the crusades those were a long time ago :(

Do you not realize that half the fucking planet was conquered and Christianized by Europe?
 
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