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Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII |OT| Toriyama's Bizarre Adventure
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Game is hard as hell at first. Focus on learning to guard and focus on weaknesses. It's more dependent on skill and preparation than past FFs that were more focused on grinding.
It's really rewarding when you finally figure it out. I also suggest saving the game before hard battles, and then reloading until you get it. Saves time.
Just because they haven't done it yet,doesn't mean it's not possible.
Some of the more powerful garbs and gear have auto-abilities. When you get some, they will show up when you press R2. Some of DLC gear has really interesting ones.
Abilities with a lock are linked to that outfit and cannot be moved. This helps make some of the garbs more unique, and more like individual classes.
It's 7 days initially. Each of the 5 main quests extends it 1 day when finished. There are ways to increase it even further for endgame content.
No. You can start the main quest lines in multiple areas. If you can juggle them around a little bit, you can hit all the shops early and farm more varied abilities from monsters.
There really is no direction, and that's by far the hardest thing. People complained about it being linear, and it seems they definitely got their wish in LR. It's wide open and up to the player to succeed or fail. I think failing on the 1st run is not going to be that rare. Having a guide or minimal walkthrough advice definitely does help a lot. Sometimes NPC dialogue that seems meaningless is hinting at a time frame for certain quests, but it never gets very specific.
Alright so for pressing R2 to view the auto ability, you have to be highlighting the piece of equipment that has it. You cannot change an item's autoability. As for the little lock next to the ability....certain garbs have certain abilities that are locked to the garb. You can only assign abilities to the free slots that are left, and you cannot remove the locked ones.
As for the Ark, Hope mentions it but the idea is that you start with 5 or 6 days left or whatever, and when you do sidequests you get this energy stuff that you can contribute to the tree to extend the life of the world. You can extend it up to a max of 13 days. If you don't do sidequests, you don't extend the life of the world and the days will continue to count down. You contribute this energy when you are sucked up to the Ark at 6.
As for your last thing, you can seriously go anywhere, and at first I would suggest visiting and exploring all four locations before tackling a main quest (which can get difficult). Do not stay in one area at a time. You should be moving from area to area depending on what you're doing and any skill walls you've hit.
You just need to slow down and try to wrap your head around the mechanics. Pay attention to the tutorials and take the time to understand how the Schemata and combat system works.
Hope that helps.
I didn't even realise they were offering a pre-order DLC. However, that always happens. I had a pre-order for FFXIV 2.0 which I then cancelled to order through flubit, still got the early access code from Amazon.
Wish they'd just give all the pre-order DLC to everyone who buys regardless of retailer. I went with GAME since they had a steelbook, but then you miss out on the other DLC.
itzknickknac
Member
I'm getting the hang of it now, I'm very limited atm with the abilities I have. Currently searching for the 4 codes. It's a struggle, since I don't like hide and seek type of 'puzzles.' Wish I could open up some sort of map
Giolon
Member
So... I just fought a Sahagin inside a chaos zone on Xbox 360... The framerate dropped like crazy. It was barely playable, just... infernal. Once it was outside of the sand, it was slightly better, but when it was inside and doing its Charge attack... Good lord...
This is unacceptable.
Edit: Oh God. This is downright ridiculous. The framerate slows down like crazy against a Sahagin even outside of the chaos zone. What. The. Hell!
(And, yes, before someone call me out on this, I did get the game after saying that I cancelled my pre-order - which I did by the way. Changed my mind after calming down).
This is unacceptable.
Edit: Oh God. This is downright ridiculous. The framerate slows down like crazy against a Sahagin even outside of the chaos zone. What. The. Hell!
(And, yes, before someone call me out on this, I did get the game after saying that I cancelled my pre-order - which I did by the way. Changed my mind after calming down).
Which console?
Aye, thanks.
Yup, thanks!
DarknessTear
Banned
I am not having fun at all. This game has to be the most frustrating shit I've played in years. I feel underpowered, the missions suck balls, the time limit is just pressure given when I'm already confused enough, and I never know where to go or what to do. Yay.
OK. This fireworks business is bullshit. I ran out of time before even trying. FUCK.
Any kind soul can list the places and time where I can find the fireworks guys? This is frustrating.
EDIT: I stopped time and thankfully I managed to score 7 fireworks by doing that sidequest near the station.
Any kind soul can list the places and time where I can find the fireworks guys? This is frustrating.
EDIT: I stopped time and thankfully I managed to score 7 fireworks by doing that sidequest near the station.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
That one chaos side mission in Luxeriam, the one by the Arcade is insane! I probably can't do it again but why is it so early in the game when it's so insanely difficult? One guard and a quarter of my hp is gone!
I'm guessing a new game +?
I'm guessing a new game +?
SoraanTribal
Member
Whelp, my Lightning Returns finally arrived! Will play it in a few days probably (after beating Bravely Default). Hopefully it will be worth the $60. 
Did anyone else read this in Agnes' voice from Bravely Default?
Did anyone else read this in Agnes' voice from Bravely Default?
Haven't felt very motivated to return to this, which usually doesn't happen. Difficulty is wildly uneven, some enemies just destroy me yet spawn along other enemies that are a cakewalk.
For staggering, is it similar to the other games? I understand the red lines meaning the stagger is near, but is it draining in the background like before where I need to mix in physical and magic attacks? I can't tell, but it doesn't seem the same.
For staggering, is it similar to the other games? I understand the red lines meaning the stagger is near, but is it draining in the background like before where I need to mix in physical and magic attacks? I can't tell, but it doesn't seem the same.
I had some of the DLC outfits, but Cloud with Sparkstrike totally crushes it. The green dragon in the chaos infusion? Yeah, he is tough.
Aerith's shield is also super strong. Guard 200, and it heals you all the time. I didn't even have to use a potion and I was on normal, near the beginning of the first day :/
Whelp, my Lightning Returns finally arrived! Will play it in a few days probably (after beating Bravely Default). Hopefully it will be worth the $60.
Did anyone else read this in Agnes' voice from Bravely Default?
I did, lol
It does drain like the other games. But now it's not based solely on magic as far as I know.
It's based on exploiting the enemy's weakness. And in addition, there's a new stat now for abilities that measures stagger continuation and one for stagger strength, rated with letter grades (A, B, C, D, E, etc.). So, you can have one job with heavy stagger damage, and then once you break it, you can switch to one with heavy stagger continuation to prolong it as much as you can.
New things in this game, there are sometimes 2 tiers of stagger now. In addition, you can get instant staggers now by counterattacking after a block on some enemies, by getting a perfect block, or even by just doing a physical attack at the precise time before an enemy strikes. It lists special stagger conditions in the libra menu for monsters once you get one (R2 during battle, or bestiary in the menu). You can fill up a monster's libra info by purchasing monster notes at shops also. It gets a checkmark by the name when it's full.
Lumpy Onion
Member
So how are the Lara Croft and FF X-2 Yuna costumes? Any victory fanfares, or is Cloud's the only one?
And that hunting for the four numbers quest is pissing me off. Spent most of a day and got 3 of them, but the fourth is in the northern slum area of Luxerion so I need to wait till tomorrow while it's open.
And that hunting for the four numbers quest is pissing me off. Spent most of a day and got 3 of them, but the fourth is in the northern slum area of Luxerion so I need to wait till tomorrow while it's open.
brandonh83
Banned
It's just short of being the worst thing ever. However, I imagine that on replays it will be significantly easier.
Caayn
Member
Got my copy today. Played it for around 5 hours, and although I liked the combat in the demo I don't really like it in the full game. Staggering seems completely random. But I'll get over the combat part.
I liked FXIII-2, I could leisurely stroll around and solve everything at my own pace. Never did I felt rushed while I understood the rush needed(story wise) to fix the timeline. No time limit was needed. Now with the time limit in LR I'm rushing everything and I still barely make it. Even with spamming the Chronostasis. I'm not enjoying the game at all. I want to stroll around at my own slow pace while completing every side-quest, sadly SE made this practically impossible.
SE I'll pay good money to get rid of the time limit in this game.
I liked FXIII-2, I could leisurely stroll around and solve everything at my own pace. Never did I felt rushed while I understood the rush needed(story wise) to fix the timeline. No time limit was needed. Now with the time limit in LR I'm rushing everything and I still barely make it. Even with spamming the Chronostasis. I'm not enjoying the game at all. I want to stroll around at my own slow pace while completing every side-quest, sadly SE made this practically impossible.
SE I'll pay good money to get rid of the time limit in this game.
Lara is actually pretty cool. She gets heavy bonuses when under 50% HP, and again at under 15% HP, playing up the "sole survivor" part of the games. She has a skill fixed to the garb called Fatal Sweep that can attack in a dash in any direction you hit the left stick to, so it can be used as a fast dodge even if you want.
Yuna X-2 has very powerful sword and shield. Shield casts brave and faith on you if you guard for a long period of time (holding it for almost your whole ATB bar). You also get +200 STR from one of them. She has a fixed skill called Crashing Waves that has attack modifier x2.00. Normal attack is x0.5 I think. It also can be used to launch enemies in the air and attack them in the air I guess. Not sure about the victory pose, but I'm sure you get one.
Here's some info on them.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
The Aerith shield is CE exclusive right? Don't have that. I do have Cloud though. Maybe I'll give it one more go although I may have to use a previous save.
NVM: looks like the Aerith dlc is even more rare! Hate it when companies pull this crap!
brandonh83
Banned
It took me around five tries to beat
but then the round when I won, I won by... quite a bit. Makes me think I don't fully understand the combat and such. I'm also horrible at blocking. It makes me want to play this like I would a Platinum game, but I don't think it's as responsive or fine-tuned so I suppose I need to learn it the way this game wants me to learn it.
Noel
Yeah, for now I think it is. Hopefully they're all available later. I still don't have the original Yuna one. And they're putting out those weird ones later, like the moogle suit.
Lumpy Onion
Member
Thanks for the info. I dunno, I'm usually all over dlc like this but the game is practically drowning in outfits already.
It's overpriced, and not necessary. But I went for it this time. I'm part of the problem :/ I make exceptions for my favorite series I guess.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Looks like the Aerith dlc is even more rarer! Hope it's dlc later.
Hate it when publishers do this
crap
djplaeskool
Member
Practice Practice Practice Practice
Not only does blocking save precious life, but on a sizable number of enemies, Just Guard (blocking at the point of impact) will cause numerous beneficial changes in state (like instant stagger, stuns, etc), and in some fights is a near requirement.
This.
I also want a "shut up,Hope!" DLC.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
We'll get the time limit-free version in the Lightning Returns International Version!
But it'll be Japan only!
But it'll be Japan only!
If you need any inspiration, there's always this video again. I think it really is just practice.
If you don't want any spoilers at all, don't watch this 2nd one. But he also has another video up on his channel against the toughest boss in the game, and he doesn't get hit a single time.
He has a move that drains your entire ATB bar when you block it. And he perfectly juggles between only two schemas the whole time to save the third for blocking. It's crazy.
Yup.
They've finally done a real open world, and yet you can't even explore it because of the shitty time limit. I was LITERALLY an inch away from a treasure orb, and 6AM struck and I got teleported away. :|
So, which DLC and bonus outfits seem OK to use at the beginning on Normal Mode (but which aren't overpowered)? Currently I'm using the Etro Knight garb, which is very nice (too bad the shield isn't that great defensively, I prefer to use something else), and the Sanctum Blade is pretty neat too.
Aside from that, I'm currently avoiding Sahagins like plague... *sigh* And I think I won't stay in the desert for too long: this place has some tough enemies, and the skeletons in the ruins are very tough, even with
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... Also, yeah, good catch SoraanTribal
Aside from that, I'm currently avoiding Sahagins like plague... *sigh* And I think I won't stay in the desert for too long: this place has some tough enemies, and the skeletons in the ruins are very tough, even with
Fang helping me to take them out (she is insanely useful)
... Also, yeah, good catch SoraanTribal
Persona RS
Member
Do you still have a code available?
SoraanTribal
Member
Even though it might sound stupid, I'd probably pay for "remove time limit" DLC as well.
They can keep the days/time changing, but just don't let there be any risk of ever running out of time to save the world. I'd love that.... Also, yeah, good catch SoraanTribal
Mrgrgr...
I think they're all fine to use honestly, because most of them won't even be useful on the first day because you won't have any abilities to fill them out.
BuckRobotron
Member
Started catching up with all the main areas now. Dug deeply into the Wildlands area then got caught up with Yusnaan, currently saved right at the point where Lightning is to
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Love the battle system with all the considerations of schemata development and seeing these all work out in-game. So far, the differing ATB costs seem well-balanced. Such as choosing the light guard for low cost, maybe use weak mediguard to balance out minor damage against healing, or take a stronger guard with heavier drain on the gauge. Working in perfect guards, the right elemental attacks, and keeping track of varied enemies on screen all leads to an entertaining flow in battle. I also like how challenging some enemies can be especially in the Chaos. Such as a Reaver. Normal version, big whoop. But then I took an hour hit after having to escape my first Chaos Reaver...
And I like the time constraints, penalties, and sometimes botched side quests. I'm playing along with the time pressure and taking losses as they happen.
show up with the dress for the stage director
Love the battle system with all the considerations of schemata development and seeing these all work out in-game. So far, the differing ATB costs seem well-balanced. Such as choosing the light guard for low cost, maybe use weak mediguard to balance out minor damage against healing, or take a stronger guard with heavier drain on the gauge. Working in perfect guards, the right elemental attacks, and keeping track of varied enemies on screen all leads to an entertaining flow in battle. I also like how challenging some enemies can be especially in the Chaos. Such as a Reaver. Normal version, big whoop. But then I took an hour hit after having to escape my first Chaos Reaver...
And I like the time constraints, penalties, and sometimes botched side quests. I'm playing along with the time pressure and taking losses as they happen.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Yup. 3 remaining not including the one I'm about to send you.
Do you know the name of the outfit?
If it's Flower of Battle, I'd love to have one. I don't have that.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Can I have one, please?
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