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microsoft: next-gen war is between microsoft and sony
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Catchpenny
Member
Well, yeah. They want the media to associate them with the market leader, not with another company being left in the wake. It's the same stuff they've been saying with the current consoles, and the PR has worked...most western media sources play it up as a two-horse race, just as Microsoft wants them to.
MaddenNFL64
Member
It's the most obvious route, but to totally dismiss Nintendo's console is stupid.
I hope Nintendo proves him wrong personally.
I hope Nintendo proves him wrong personally.
Again, MS is ignoring Nintendo, except for the fact where they say that they're #2 worldwide. (Hey, if they were ignoring Nintendo in that aspect, they'd be saying they were last, wordwide. Not a very pleasant stat, is that? 
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Edit: Madden, I agree with you. I think it's really stupid and arrogant of MS AND Sony to be ignoring Nintendo, in all PR matters. the Western media is eating it up, too.
)Edit: Madden, I agree with you. I think it's really stupid and arrogant of MS AND Sony to be ignoring Nintendo, in all PR matters. the Western media is eating it up, too.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Can't disagree with him about one thing. I don't see Nintendo being interested in hooking up with PCs and other things around the house. I can see them still making some of the best ever games though.
Hellraizah
Member
He's right. Next gen is about Sony VS Microsoft. Let's face it, Nintendo is losing steam each generation, and it would be a huge surprise to see the wind turn next generation.
ToyMachine228
Member
Let's face it...Console wars is getting so old.
There is no way that the next MS or Nintendo console will outsell the PS3. Their best hope is to cut the already insane gap that the PS2 has created this generation and then hope to overtake Sony in the next generation after that. This is the reality. Anything different than that is just delusional.
MrPing1000
Member
Society said:
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Let it go. The gap between Xbox and Gamecube is only going to get greater, most likely... And the trend will probably continue into next generation.Deg said:They probably wont by the time this gen ends
Kobun Heat
Member
I agree. After all is said and done, Nintendo will have sold more Gamecubes than MS has sold Xboxes.Teddman said:
Especially when I think Nintendo did so many things right.
But I think some people here are missing the point. Madden, GaimeGuy, I wouldn't take it as MS ignoring Nintendo, but realizing that Nintendo is going after a different user, than both MS and Sony.
This is one of the reasons why the Xbox is #2, IMO. The market for the PS2/Xbox-ish gamer is larger than the one for the GC type gamer. Sports games are a fundamental part of their software library. A lot of the games are dealing with more mature-themes, and they feature extra capabilities beyond playing videogames.
If the GC featured DVD playback, a larger array of mature games, and a larger array of sports games, I'm sure MS and Sony would consider them competition.
As it stands, Nintendo will provide competition, but not direct competition.
Teddman said:
Well the GC still MAY catch up and overtake, if Xenon launches next year. MS will probably stop Xbox production so everyone can jump on Xenon (if the system is like GC and is profitable). Why continue to market a system which will continue to lose you money into the next gen?
While it's incredibly doubtful Nintendo will ever be on top ever again, I say they have one last, small chance to compete with the big dogs with Revolution. Stranger things have happened in the industry before, after all.
I have a feeling though, that Nintendo's next system, will be their Saturn.
True enough, Kobun. After Microsoft cuts the albatros like XboX from it's neck next year and is still attempting to pull together some kind of profit, Nintendo will have it's GCN on the market, and history shows us that Nintendo systems tend to move significant numbers in the tail end of their lifetimes.
MrAngryFace
Banned
Its easy to sell a lot of gamecubes when they're so freaking cheap. People buy shit on deals for the sake of getting a deal. Its no mystery.
I think XBox has done leagues for online console gaming, and has offered up a very solid line-up of original games for MS' first outting.
I recognize Nintendos handheld dominance, and the 'gems' on the gamecube, but that only goes so far.
I think XBox has done leagues for online console gaming, and has offered up a very solid line-up of original games for MS' first outting.
I recognize Nintendos handheld dominance, and the 'gems' on the gamecube, but that only goes so far.
MrAngryFace
Banned
The dreamcast sold really well at the end of its lifecycle too, and had its share of gems! Doesnt mean my dreams of a follow up console came true.
Nintendo should just change its company name to Gameboy since its saved their ass so many times.
Nintendo should just change its company name to Gameboy since its saved their ass so many times.
The argument that GameCube sales will overtake Xbox sales eventually because of the early launch of the Xenon (Xbox Next, whatever you want to call it) can be reassuring for Nintendo fans...
Until you consider that it gives MS's console a head start on Nintendo's next generation consoles sales.
OH NO
Until you consider that it gives MS's console a head start on Nintendo's next generation consoles sales.
OH NO
MrAngryFace
Banned
No, Gameboy knows how to make money. Nintendo knows how to waste my time. Gameboy = Skynet.
Fight for Freeform said:
Thats the whole point of not mentioning Nintendo in their press releases. They dont want people to see them as being far away from PS2. Its just a way of fooling people into thinking that they are solid competiton for Sony. Nevermind the fact they got whooped by Nintendo and cant turn a profit despite suppossedly being a PS2 'competitor' which they clearly arent. Whether they like it or not they and Nintendo are lumped together as far away from PS2 niether can be lumped with Sony interm of home hardware.
MrAngryFace
Banned
No Joking in that post.
The nintendo fans are coming out! just like old times.
The nintendo fans are coming out! just like old times.
Just like. This dance is getting boring, though. We all know in the end Nintendo ends up selling some massive ammount of software and laughs all the way to the bank (and process repeats again)
(admit it...you and Doug stay up late nights just thinking this stuff up, don't you)
(admit it...you and Doug stay up late nights just thinking this stuff up, don't you
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Teddman said:
Yeah, I wonder how Xenon will turn out. MS will have to cut off Xbox shipments, Xenon most likely wont be BC at this point. It may not have a huge launch title to propel sales (Perfect Dark Zero's what I see which will do them good- but, knowing Rare... :\), and by the time Revolution and PS3 (especially PS3) come out, it may be the weakest system on the market.
Not to mention it will piss off Xbox owners who just bought a $150, $130, or $100 system less than a year before the new system comes out (though that never stopped the Game Boy).
On the other hand, if the Xenon can grab Madden, make Xenon Live available out of the box, and easy to transfer subscriptions from XBL, they could gain a huge following in a short amount of time. Knowing MS, it'll have a huge ad campaign, and it's bad to doubt them as we've learned this gen.
Time will tell, but 2005 and 2006 will be very messy.
MrAngryFace
Banned
No, I actually give very little thought to Nintendo. Its just easy to keep a thread like this going by just blowing random generalized statements about Nintendo out of my ass.