tmlDan
Member
so she's ugly? if you're gay just admit it.
She is objectively not ugly, maybe your idea of a frail woman who needs you to save her is what you want. I can agree she is not a frail feminine helpless woman character.
She is objectively not ugly, maybe your idea of a frail woman who needs you to save her is what you want. I can agree she is not a frail feminine helpless woman character.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
My dude... ND/Sony absolutely care, I can guarantee you that.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Well, looks like the actress was there
{insert code here}
Member
Yeah man same.
And hey, they free to make whatever game they want and try to sell it to whomever they want but man I knew the second I saw the protagonist that this game was going to cause a lot of drama on the internet and here we are 14 pages. I personally don't think the Naughty Dog name is going to carry this game like all the Sony fans do. If you're going to rely on your name/brand to carry you then you basically get one free pass and they already used that up with TLOU2.
Funny how Indiana Jones is an SBI product but no hellfire here for some reason.
Matsuchezz
Member
People in this thread complain about woke and they are so easily offended, i wonder if they belong to generation z, because the game is rooted in reality and I like it a lot I'm 45 and my generation enjoyed CDs adn those kinds of TVs. It reminds me of Alien Romulus and the original Alien movie where the CRT displays were it and cutting edge.
Btw the physics in the clothes and the bed sheets looks awesome, animation is second to none. We really do not know if that girl is the MC. and if she is, i do not have an issue with her looks. I hope this game is 2025.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
you can, no one is stopping you.
Cyber_hunter026
Member
At this point I think woke and anti woke politics have already spoiled this game. game could have the best gameplay for all we know, but at the end of the day the discussion over the games main character/her design will be the point of contention and controversy. And dominate the games lead up to release.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Kacho
Member
Saturn Dragon
Member
This looks... Forced and generic.
Looks... BAD. LIKE... SONIC SPINBALL BAD.
Looks... BAD. LIKE... SONIC SPINBALL BAD.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
For christ's sake lol
Here is a slide from the Insomniac leak.
This is 2023 and only showing digital sales. TLoU2 is only beaten by God of War - one of Playstations most iconic franchises. And Fucking Spider-Man. That's it. In digital sales the game was only outsold by Peter Parker and Kratos. Square Enix is the only company in existence that would say this did not meet expectations.
Balducci30
Member
The sword concerns me as well I won't lie. Sword fights against a robots? Idk. But it's ND I'm sure they figured something out
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It took Last of Us more than 5 years to reach 19M.
The game was heavily bundled which means the sales numbers were inflated.
Days Gone wasn't a sales disappointment and it sold 8-9 million in 5 years.
The Last of Us Part II is estimated to have sold more than 15M by June 2023 without major bundles and before the release of the PC version and the Remaster.
LordOcidax
Member
I get that you're a fan of ND but denying that TLOU2 is not full of WOKE shit is another thing… ND hired people that are well known activists of the WOKE movement and is pretty obvious that they are following and agenda, saying that the game sold 10 million and won GOTY its not going to change that, its like saying that a pokemon game is not a technical garbage because the game sells 20 million every year. If you are ok with WOKE shit, is ok, you are going to have a little of hard time here, but denying that games like TLOU2 is no WOKE is going to give you and endless discussion.
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Stooky
Banned
only on gaf.
zkorejo
Member
Pretty/ugly is subjective. Maybe you like being with a girl that can carry you around on her back.. some guys actually don't.
No one is helpless in our day and age. Being a feminine woman doesn't mean she can't be a powerful woman. You're stereotyping women and limiting them based on your own limited understanding of what a woman should be. A woman that looks like a man doesn't automatically make her independent and strong. Neither does a cute 5 foot girl is automatically a frail damsel in distress.
I thought it looked decent other than the protagonist's character design—a bald, non-binary looking woman with masculine shoulders and muscles, basically Abby 2.0, which is a turnoff because of the ideological implications, and, well, being unappealing in general. The woman on the FaceTime call also has a mismatched voice.
Otherwise, the '80s retro-future aesthetic is fine. Not much to go on yet.
Will the game be good? Sure, maybe. I'm ready for the world to go back to normal though.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
100% this.
Guerilla Munch
Member
holy fuck western devs LITERALLY cannot stop making unaesthetic female leads
Jinzo Prime
Member
Bro, not sonic spinballl bad, oh lord
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
You don't design a sword that unique if you don't want the player using it a lot.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Maybe I am okay with woke shit if it's done tastefully?
I mean, the gay Bill episode in TLOU2 is one of the single greatest episodes I've ever seen in TV.
That's fine, I don't care about labels in general. "Woke this and woke that". The woke shit that's bad just isn't done tastefully and has zero quality to it. Naughty Dog has ALWAYS been about quality
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Jinzo Prime
Member
I thought I was the only one who caught that, she sounds 20 but looks 60.
The entire fucking thing is just very off putting to me.
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bender
What time is it?
I thought she was an AI construct which could make that make sense...I guess.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I'm at least glad there aren't quippity quips. It's too early to say "zero charisma".
But between the imitation Soulslop, the imitation Guardians music injection, the fucking "look, we have Hollywood actors, and Trent Reznor" Hollywood wannabe shit, and the weak, generic weeb influences, I cannot believe that ND seriously thought this was going to hit.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
The hilariously sad thing is you and I are probably ready for the world to go back to different normals, and I get the feeling we're both going to end up disappointed in the end.
I say we all grab a drink, sit by the fire, and take the world for what it is - an ever evolving amorphous blob that was way different before we got here and will be very different by the time we check out.
March Climber
Member
I know this is Naughty Dog, but since she has a spaceship and since they opened with her shaving her head, I hope they allow for hair and clothing customizations.
Saturn Dragon
Member
Is there still time to recast the main character with Margot Robbie or something?
Kacho
Member
Perhaps. I can only judge what I see. Nathan Drake and Joel had charisma that was immediately apparent. Seems like a huge downgrade. I suspect Lalo will carry this one.
LordOcidax
Member
Thats the issue here… Some people like me don't want any political agenda in video games, it doesn't matter if is well done or not, the world is full of that shit already.
0neAnd0nly
Member
Naughty Dog under Hennig was a lot of fun. UC (especially 2) was such a great time, and one of the key 3 games that IMO, saved PS3 and potentially Playstation.
But under Druckmann, I don't feel quite the same. It started off good, but pretentiousness and getting stuck in one category has been odd. Having 2 titles remade numerous times has been odd. Working on Factions for seemingly half a decade only to abandon it seems odd, and this game just doesn't look like it will strike a cord for myself, personally.
The game looks like it was a direct blend of Guardians of the Galaxy, Cyberpunk, and a few other titles. Lacking real originality and pushing branding almost to a comical point. It seems to be going for a souls like approach, which has become a bit of a trend and a mixed bag one at that. Game and character design look... forgettable and unrelatable... and also look strangely similar to what he seems to solely prefer in his recent titles. The vibe is cool, but space vibes in modern games are starting to multiply and dry up the freshness. This game also looks rather far away. It looks somewhat stale and safe. I will give him credit for expanding past the typical apocalyptic action or treasure hunting adventure rut of the last 6 titles, but that isn't enough to outweigh the negatives for me.
Meh. Not impressed.
But under Druckmann, I don't feel quite the same. It started off good, but pretentiousness and getting stuck in one category has been odd. Having 2 titles remade numerous times has been odd. Working on Factions for seemingly half a decade only to abandon it seems odd, and this game just doesn't look like it will strike a cord for myself, personally.
The game looks like it was a direct blend of Guardians of the Galaxy, Cyberpunk, and a few other titles. Lacking real originality and pushing branding almost to a comical point. It seems to be going for a souls like approach, which has become a bit of a trend and a mixed bag one at that. Game and character design look... forgettable and unrelatable... and also look strangely similar to what he seems to solely prefer in his recent titles. The vibe is cool, but space vibes in modern games are starting to multiply and dry up the freshness. This game also looks rather far away. It looks somewhat stale and safe. I will give him credit for expanding past the typical apocalyptic action or treasure hunting adventure rut of the last 6 titles, but that isn't enough to outweigh the negatives for me.
Meh. Not impressed.
Hypereides
Gold Member
Seriously? God, modern Naughty Dog is really set on having a reenforced constant positive feedback loop echochamber.they disabled the comment section lmao
ChorizoPicozo
Member
to us? are we making the games, are we the ones pushing this nonsense?
Putonahappyface
Member
Johnny Concrete
Member
I'm glad I'm not affected by the 'everything is woke'-virus. I just thought it looked cool.
tmlDan
Member
im making fun of you, im not defining it, im portraying how you are coming off.
Kacho
Member
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
Those anti-Woke people are becoming even more pathetic than Woke itself.
Jinzo Prime
Member
I'm starting to think her unique features are hard to capture on an in-game model. She looks fine in real life.I know this is Naughty Dog, but since she has a spaceship and since they opened with her shaving her head, I hope they allow for hair and clothing customizations.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Gtfo with this obfuscatory bs.
You've isolated by digital sales, when major SP 1st parties for PS sell majority physical. You've massaged the image by expecting people to focus on revenue as compared to sales numbers. It is not just behind Ragnarok in that rank, a game more than 2 years younger than TLOU2, it is behind a lot, and by a lot. The revenue was quickly accrued, and then sales fell off a cliff. The game COULD have sold an extra 50-70% if it hadn't pissed people off as much. There was potential lost, no one's saying it didn't make money.
I am not even a huge TLOU2 hater like that, nor do I have Druckmann Derangement Syndrome. But you know what, screw it. I look forward to the shock people will have if/when this title does worse than every ND title since U4.
Kotaro
Member
Yup me too.
I'm ready to go back to playing games as badass masculine dude or hot sexy female protagonist. Not some ugly androgynous crap
I guess Sony still haven't learned from SW: Outlaws or Concord
Gamerguy84
Member
Your absolutely
% right.But if it's good it will sell and the actual gamers that want to play it will enjoy it.
TBF haters, review bombers, forum warriors, invest a lot of time into trying to drag a game or system down. Kinda sad.
LordOcidax
Member
ND was the ones that started putting political shit on their games… Before was only about killing zombies and a fun story… Not us.
Saturn Dragon
Member
It depends on where you live/d.
This bald girl wouldn't even be allowed to be in public in Moscow for example.
In a place where Margot Robbie looks average, an androgynous lesbianesque smelly looking bald girl would freak everyone out.
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