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New 90 second Clip of Avengers: Age of Ultron

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cutmeamango

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Subpar Spatula said:
I was specifically referring to the MCU. Saying to look here for more information about X is still a flaw in movie making. If you can't detail it well enough in the movie people will ask questions and it lowers the overall quality of the movie. While Ultron's jaw bending or Cap's shield bending is very little, there's a bunch of stuff not even touched upon and we take as faith because they're super heroes, movie magic is fading and people will see the cracks.
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Yeah, there's always three or four.
 
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Pachimari

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why are we even going into such small details. It's superhero movies. Just enjoy them for what they instead of being super serious about it.
 
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Cuburt

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I might refrain after seeing that it's an extended look at the Hulk/Tony fight.

Oh man, this wait is going to be tough.
 
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ATastyMuffin

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I can't see anybody in real life walking out of the theatre after the plethora of exhilarating, jaw-dropping, and genuinely amazing moments stopping dead in their tracks, scratching their heads, and uttering, "Wait, wasn't Ultron's jaw moving?" Just as nobody cried foul when Batroc managed to knock over Cap by kicking his force-absorbing shield.

No one's gonna give a shit.
 
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Jest Chillin

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Subpar Spatula said:
I was specifically referring to the MCU. Saying to look here for more information about X is still a flaw in movie making. If you can't detail it well enough in the movie people will ask questions and it lowers the overall quality of the movie. While Ultron's jaw bending or Cap's shield bending is very little, there's a bunch of stuff not even touched upon and we take as faith because they're super heroes, movie magic is fading and people will see the cracks.
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The reason why I posted the TFA explanation is that it's the only bit of explanation that it's been given. So it's properties aren't outlined clearly, similarly to the properties of say, Iron Man's hand blasts or how his reactor works. So while the inconsistent portrayal of Cap's shield can certainly be nitpicked at it's at least not running counter to an offered MCU explanation. People will find something to nitpick regardless though. Whether it's warranted or not.

I posted the comic description because after looking up the TFA explanation I wanted to see how far off my rough one was. And once I read that, I figured may as well post it to correct myself.
 
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K' Dash

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SnowFlakeCake said:
I really hope Iron Man gets murdered, very graphically in this film. The worst marvel character in the films and that's saying something since captain America has the personality of a banana. Robert Jr has done his bit, made his money and would do well to fuck off so someone else can do a better job at the role since he basically peaked with iron man 1 and it's gone downhill since.
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You can say whatever the fuck you want about Stark, you better shut the fuck up about Rogers, the Cap is fucking awesome.
 
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Toxi

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That Ultron voice is hilariously unfitting. He sounds like my angry neighbor.
ATastyMuffin said:
I think people are a little too hasty to compare this to Man of Steel's fights in a feverish attempt to point out the 'hypocrisy' of the film's critics, we have two drastically situations at play here. There were a few points in the former where Superman had deliberate choice of where to angle the fight so as to reduce collateral damage in the city, but for weird reasons decided not to. Case in point, when he tackled the fuck out of Zod, barreled him straight through the field and past several neighbourhoods for about half a minute, then whips straight through a gas station, causing it to explode and collapse on itself.

Another scene has Zod launching an enormous truck towards Clark with a simple nudge of his foot, and the latter hops over it like a minor nuisance becfore the truck...impacts the parking garage directly behind him, detonates, and, again, causes the structure to collapse inwardly on itself. Both of those instances depict extreme carelessness on Clark's part because civilian deaths that he could have easily prevented may have most likely transpired.

Here? I'm not sure you could apply those same criticisms to Stark here, he's not in control of the fight at all, as Clark was when he first assaulted Zod through said gas station. He tried subduing Hulk by burrowing him through the ground, but was kicked off rather easily. Every other exchange had Tony fighting to get some distance between them, because when it came down to it, Hulk was simply stronger physically, by a considerable amount. Sure, he could have displayed a little more care when he blasted Hulk with a repulsor into the adjacent building, but to do that would have significantly risked his chance of surviving the fight.
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Also, you know, this is a 90 second clip instead of the actual movie and we have no clue if the movie will actually be self-aware about its heroes' reckless tendencies instead of using them as Jesus analogues.

A cynical part of me thinks the writers won't be that clever, but I'm not going to start shitting on Avengers 2 until I actually watch it, just like I didn't start shitting on the garbage known as Man of Steel until I watched it.
 
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Wanderer5

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isnt Spaders voice supposed to be modified to sound robotic? His normal voice coming out of a robot like that is weird and cartoony as fuck. Awful.
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Yeah he sounding pretty different and more human here. Kind of disappointing lol. He sounds way cooler in the trailer with a bit more robotic in his voice.:/ Probably a much later scene through.
 
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cutmeamango

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Ultron should be moving away from humanity and returning to machine. So, robot voice and and a even more featureless face.
Then we can have Vision concerned with the opposite direction. Working penis and hand with tactile and temperature sensation.
 
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Ermac

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I don't think it's the fact that he's speaking like a human, I think it's the fact that he's speaking like Spader. It makes me visual Spader talking in a booth and then they paste his voice over the CGI. Kinda like how The Illusive Man just feels like Martin Sheen. It's jarring.
 
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googleplex

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cutmeamango said:
Ultron should be moving away from humanity and returning to machine. So, robot voice and and a even more featureless face.
Then we can have Vision concerned with the opposite direction. Working penis and hand with tactile and temperature sensation.
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Then he should be speaking in binary code not human language at all. He's a machine, why wouldn't he language skills be perfect ?

Comic fans are weird man.
 
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plasmawave

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googleplex said:
No why should it? Thor and Loki are norse alien gods that speak perfect English. Why would an advanced A.I that doesn't sound like a 1970's cylon be jarring?
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To me it sounds like the voice is not coming out from Ulton but it sounds like Spader is voicing it over the video in a studio. They just don't match.
Just like you'd exaggerate punching sounds and whatnot in movies, they should add something to his voice.

Ermac said:
I don't think it's the fact that he's speaking like a human, I think it's the fact that he's speaking like Spader. It makes me visual Spader talking in a booth and then they paste his voice over the CGI. Kinda like how The Illusive Man just feels like Martin Sheen. It's jarring.
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Exactly.
 
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Renekton

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Ermac said:
I think it's the fact that he's speaking like Spader. It makes me visual Spader talking in a booth and then they paste his voice over the CGI. Kinda like how The Illusive Man just feels like Martin Sheen. It's jarring.
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How about Joker and Seth Green, Brian Griffin and McFarlane? Do those bother you?
 
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googleplex

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plasmawave said:
To me it sounds like the voice is not coming out from Ulton but it sounds like Spader is voicing it over the video in a studio. They just don't match.
Just like you'd exaggerate punching sounds and whatnot in movies, they should add something to his voice.
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Again why? Iron man's A.I Jarvis spoke perfect English, quips and all and no one had an issue with it.

It's just a really weird criticism to have given the universe this all happens in.
 
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plasmawave

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googleplex said:
I disagree it would serve no purpose. And Jarvis doesn't sound computer-y at all in the clip you posted. he just sound like a dude.
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You're not getting what I'm saying.
In that clip, Jarvis' voice sounds like it's coming out from speakers. There's a layer of digital effects going on.
 
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Discotheque

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Crud said:
Yikes.
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lol yeah. that ultron voice just seems distracting as hell, no menace to it at all.

and quicksilver cgi looking like shit. ultron's moves look cool though, nice flight fight

i really hate to sound like such a negative broken record but these clips are hurting right now. and i thought the trailers looked cool too. this film's feeling a bit off.
 
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Pai Pai Master

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cutmeamango said:
Ultron should be moving away from humanity and returning to machine. So, robot voice and and a even more featureless face.
Then we can have Vision concerned with the opposite direction. Working penis and hand with tactile and temperature sensation.
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Not really. The entire point of Ultron is that he claims to despise humanity but cannot seem to let parts of his humanity go. He may upgrade himself to this monstrous vibranium form but he still refers to Stark as his dad and still has the mannerisms of a human.
 
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Carcetti

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I was prepared for mindless GAF hate for that clip, then checked it out myself. Yikes. It's like there's no connect between Ultron's voice and his body. The clip sounds like Spader is standing just outside of the screen and Ultron is kinda-sorta moving his mouth aping the man's words.
 
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cutmeamango

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Pai Pai Master said:
Not really. The entire point of Ultron is that he claims to despise humanity but cannot seem to let parts of his humanity go. He may upgrade himself to this monstrous vibranium form but he still refers to Stark as his dad and still has the mannerisms of a human.
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And that's why he starts by defacing these similar features in drones, then adapts to having eyebrows and teeth. Spoilers ahead:
And apparently returns to the menacing and classical visual, abandoning human eyes and mouth. You can't get rid of humanity if you still see yourself as a human.
 
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