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New 90 second Clip of Avengers: Age of Ultron

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Banjotanooki

Banjotanooki

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richiek said:
New clip: The Avengers confront Ultron and the twins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3h_PmaiKMM
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All I hear out of Ultron is Hanky Stanky from Seinfeld:
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Glass Rebel

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Ultron seems fine to me in that clip but he sounds quite different from pretty much everything else we've heard of him so far. I really doubt that it's the final mix.
 
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Slayven

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cutmeamango said:
Ultron should be moving away from humanity and returning to machine. So, robot voice and and a even more featureless face.
Then we can have Vision concerned with the opposite direction. Working penis and hand with tactile and temperature sensation.
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Have you read an Ultron story? Ultron stands out among evil robots because he is all too human(batshit fundamentally broken mentally human but human)

dude kill every living thing in a country just to make a mound of bodies in the shape of his face that could be seem from space

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……forgetit

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Bishop89 said:
nice clip. Spader is amazing.

So what are quicksilvers and scarletts background?
are they badies
? very confused as DoFP version is
good
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the days of future past version is nothing like the original characters, they start out bad, but turn good in the comics.

Also to everyone complaining about Ultrons voice, modern voice producers don't sound robotic, why would he? The whole tinny, modulated robot thing hasn't made since for years.
 
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kinggroin

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come on guys, this is obviously not the final mix or even the final cut. You can catch a lot of the audio being muted abruptly in between dialogue. which itself, also doesn't flow very well. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow, but I don't think I am.
 
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cutmeamango

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Slayven said:
Have you read an Ultron story? Ultron stands out among evil robots because he is all too human(batshit fundamentally broken mentally human but human)

dude kill every living thing in a country just to make a mound of bodies in the shape of his face that could be seem from space
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While that does look like a convincing argument, that's not very human.
It's present in humans, sure. But not a quality shared by the majority at all.
And through Annihilation and even a bit in Age of Ultron, a beating note for the character is how he is "post human", creation overcomes creator thing. He embraces being a perfect machine, but they'll always falter to his mental patterns being based on humans.

And with that I return to his visual. He didn't choose to have a human face. Jocasta has a human face. Vision has a human face.
That's just one way we separate monsters from humans.
 
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……forgetit

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cutmeamango said:
While that does look like a convincing argument, that's not very human.
It's present in humans, sure. But not a quality shared by the majority at all.
And through Annihilation and even a bit in Age of Ultron, a beating note for the character is how he is post human. He embraces being a perfect machine, but they'll always fault to his mental patterns being based on humans.

And with that I return to his visual. He didn't choose to have a human face. Jocasta has a human face.
That's just one way we separate monsters from humans.
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Well the reason why ultron does that stuff in the comics is because he's based on hank pymsnbrain patterns, and hank is crazy as fuck. That was the scary thing about the character, hank could snap any minute and turn into that.
 
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Slayven

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Spork4000 said:
Well the reason why ultron does that stuff in the comics is because he's based on hank pymsnbrain patterns, and hank is crazy as fuck. That was the scary thing about the character, hank could snap any minute and turn into that.
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Man imagine if Ultron was based on Reed Richards?
 
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Dryk

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Net_Wrecker said:
This clip has an incredibly strong "Avengers cartoon" vibe to it. I don't like Ultron's mannerisms. He's too expressive to the point that it feels like they referenced a Disney animation guide for his movement.
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Recent cartoon Ultrons have been almost entirely inexpressive :p
 
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cutmeamango

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Spork4000 said:
Well the reason why ultron does that stuff in the comics is because he's based on hank pymsnbrain patterns, and hank is crazy as fuck. That was the scary thing about the character, hank could snap any minute and turn into that.
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I don't remember Pym being a psychotic/maniac genocidial landmine, would have to reread his stints. But I'd agree that reading it as "is this monster inside me too?" is valid.
I always thought it was: Is the "same brain", the same brain? He 'never' (I wouldn't know, honestly) recognized himself as Hank Pym either way.
 
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Renekton

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cutmeamango said:
And through Annihilation and even a bit in Age of Ultron, a beating note for the character is how he is "post human", creation overcomes creator thing. He embraces being a perfect machine, but they'll always falter to his mental patterns being based on humans.

And with that I return to his visual. He didn't choose to have a human face. Jocasta has a human face. Vision has a human face.
That's just one way we separate monsters from humans.
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Instead of the usual evil machine transcendence schtick, Whedon seemed to hint that he intended to humanize Ultron or make him partly sympathetic. If true, this would be greatly helped by an expressive human face and non-mechanical voice.

cutmeamango said:
I don't remember Pym being a psychotic/maniac genocidial landmine, would have to reread his stints.
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For one, he was an abusive husband towards Wasp at some point.
 
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cutmeamango

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Renekton said:
Instead of the usual evil machine transcendence schtick, Whedon seemed to hint that he intended to humanize Ultron or make him partly sympathetic. If true, this would be greatly helped by an expressive human face and non-mechanical voice.


For one, he was an abusive husband towards Wasp at some point.
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I addressed the first part in another post, he'll have his visual journey from disfigured Stark drone, to huge metal thing with mostly human face (allying with humans) and so on, yeah.
And the second part, not really his character.
 
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Pai Pai Master

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Dryk said:
Recent cartoon Ultrons have been almost entirely inexpressive :p
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Yeah EMH was the definitive take on the cold emotionless Ultron. Fine for a cartoon but in a movie you're gonna want something more expressive and relatable. Going back to Ultron's roots and essentially making him a bratty child rebelling against his father is definitely a good move on Whedon's part.
 
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BronsonLee

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I actually wonder if Ultron will keep tweaking his voice throughout the movie. Like he goes from robot, to human there, and back to menacing robot again
 
Trickster

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neorej said:
Same as with Bane, they were still tweaking the vocal modulator when they released the trailer.
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Sounds like they've completely removed it now. Just sounds like spader doing VA with no tweaks at all. And as much as I like spader, him voicing ultron with no real tweaks to the voice sounds way off
 
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Slayven

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BronsonLee said:
I actually wonder if Ultron will keep tweaking his voice throughout the movie. Like he goes from robot, to human there, and back to menacing robot again
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GET OUT OF MY BRAIN CHARLES!!!! I was thinking the same thing, like as his body improves his voice gets more human

cutmeamango said:
I don't remember Pym being a psychotic/maniac genocidial landmine, would have to reread his stints. But I'd agree that reading it as "is this monster inside me too?" is valid.
I always thought it was: Is the "same brain", the same brain? He 'never' (I wouldn't know, honestly) recognized himself as Hank Pym either way.
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Diprosalic

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Trickster said:
Sounds like they've completely removed it now. Just sounds like spader doing VA with no tweaks at all. And as much as I like spader, him voicing ultron with no real tweaks to the voice sounds way off
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i actually thought that the robot-y voice sounds weird. IM has been talking to Jarvis since IM1 and he sounds like a normal human, not sure why ultron wouldn't.
 
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E the Shaggy

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I'm a little late to the party but God damn did they just nail Captain America's character perfectly in that clip when the team is confronting Tony:

"How do you suppose we fight off something like that?"
"Together."
 
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thecouncil

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What an awful stack of clips these are.

The Ultron one is particularly offensive.

His voice should've at least sounded closer to THIS rather than the normal human voice we're getting here.

all these clips have been great.
 
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J10

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Sounds like Spader opted to turn in a more varied and humanized performance instead of sounding like a soulless monotone murder machine. I'm not mad about that. I bet it works fine in the full context of the film.
 
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backflip10019

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J10 said:
Sounds like Spader opted to turn in a more varied and humanized performance instead of sounding like a soulless monotone murder machine. I'm not mad about that. I bet it works fine in the full context of the film.
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That's not the only problem I had with this clip. His regular voice just sounds too similar to RDJ's. I had a hard time distinguishing them. It just doesn't work.
 
Trickster

Trickster

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Diprosalic said:
i actually thought that the robot-y voice sounds weird. IM has been talking to Jarvis since IM1 and he sounds like a normal human, not sure why ultron wouldn't.
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Jarvis does not sound completely human, there's a clear artificial element to his voice imo

The problem with spaders voice probably isn't lessened by the fact that he's a famous actor with a voice people know. When ultron speaks in that clip, I just hear james spader talking, not ultron.
 
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mjc

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Gotta be an unfinished mix in that clip. I'll reserve my thoughts until I see the movie.

Remember that clip before Avengers came out with Fury and Hill? I think it's where the "looks like a TV show" thing came from. It wasn't as crummy in within the context of the movie itself.
 
Ein Bear

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E the Shaggy said:
I'm a little late to the party but God damn did they just nail Captain America's character perfectly in that clip when the team is confronting Tony:

"How do you suppose we fight off something like that?"
"Together."
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The exchange reminded me of New Avengers #19. God, the MCU needs Namor.

"We have hope."

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