Matrix said:
ManaByte said:Not new. Been out for a while. At least the first half.
DMczaf said:Theres a bunch of Superman Returns stuff on XBL. Trailers and videos.
Matrix said:*drools*
I want gamerpics and themes![]()
krypt0nian said:Your words to LIVE's ears. My gamertag is lastsonkrypt0n and I have to use a PDZ gamerpic as it's the most krypt0nian looking thing out there right now.
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krypt0nian said:Your words to LIVE's ears. My gamertag is lastsonkrypt0n and I have to use a PDZ gamerpic as it's the most krypt0nian looking thing out there right now.
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evil solrac v3.0 said:i betcha if alex luthor got a hold of it, he'd do a bang up job of it.
reaver18 said:I still think the movie looks stupid but that's mainly because superman looks like a douchebag in today's society.
Superman Returns. You want a film that divides people before the film even peeks into theaters? Heres your baby. In a year of utter boredom, where what is supposed to be the most glorious installment in a very healthy franchise makes a ton of money but garners no real emotion from pundits on either side (X-Men: The Last Stand, which had plenty of discussion and debate from viewers but little in the way of suspense), its about time we had a firecracker of a topic. Already, folks who run sites like mine are dealing with a variety of pressures from the oddest sources (advertising companies, independent reps) to do or say or cover one thing or another. Stuff Ive never seen happen before. Loads of planted reviews both dramatically positive or violently negative. Threats over whether to cover the flick and how. Emails, oh the emails. It was this situation that made me wonder how different things will be a year from today. What the relationship between sites like this and the studios. With each other. Some stuff has been broken between some sites that cant be fixed. Theres allegiances to studios that defy logic and blacklists by studios that defy it stronger.
Ill say this flat out. Dont trust a goddamn single one of the Superman Returns reviews on the web. Not a one. Make it your new barometer. Disregard the message board frivolity and ignore the blogs and their take on it. See the movie and then go back and read the far-flung text on the subject. Perhaps youll see what I mean. Im not saying the studio (Warner Bros. in this case) is up to no good. They have their own work to do: making a hugely expensive film wrought in many dead development processes come out and come out with big numbers. Theyre in the business of making movies and making movies that make money. I just think this film in particular has changed the way this little corner of the film business happens. Some folks may have overstepped their bounds. Others may have felt no bounds ever existed.
Silly me, I watched it from the cheap seats and have no idea what to make of it.
Just dont put much weight into the reviews, even the tag team one myself, Devin, and Russ are doing. Some true colors may show themselves and well all feel better on the tail end.
And Superman Returns? Im sure itll end up making plenty of money. I think its also the beginning of the next age of online film criticism but Ive been wrong before. I thought Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was going to make a mint. I thought Napoleon Dynamite was a pile of ass no one would want to see.
Willco said:That doesn't sound too positive to me!
ManaByte said:He's basically saying reviews are being planted, bought, or threatened out of reviewers.
Just wait for peer reactions, that's what I always doMatrix said:I'll get my ticket and judge for myself.I remember the good old days when I was young and didnt bother reading reviews about movies on the internet.
karasu said:I knew these reviews were too good to be true
Man, you could write a whole book about the repressed homophobia that emerges from reviews of Singer's work.Matrix said:what the shit
""On some level it's preferable that director Bryan Singer stays out of the material's way to the extent that he does, but after a distended two-and-a-half hours I was longing for the homo hauteur to let fly with his patented queer-release sledgehammer (in such ample use during the eye-candy X-Men pictures) and whack me hard upside the cremaster. " - Slant Magazine, two stars"
"Drab looking, underwhelming and inferior to all four of the Superman films that starred Christopher Reeve...But at least it's better than Supergirl."
-- Chuck O'Leary, FULVUEDRIVE-IN.COM
IGN said:While on the note of TV and for lack of a better terminology, the kid is involved in what can be called a jump-the-shark moment, but you'll have to witness this for yourself.
Matrix said:Not to mention that the dude missed the camp of the original movies and liked Superman 3 and 4, who even with Reeve sucked ass.
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Yes, that's right. Singer's film is even a step below the poorly-conceived Superman III (1983) and the cheesy Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987). But hey, at least it's better than Supergirl (1984).
Superman has been suspected of being a fascist since long before the character even existed--just ask Friedrich Nietzsche. Frank Miller, creator of the milestone comic book The Dark Knight Returns, showed the Man of Steel as a dangerously self-righteous Übermensch. If we needed any more proof, The Road to Guantanamo reveals that power doesn't ennoble, it corrupts--and that's why Superman Returns is a lie. It doesn't matter how much we want to imagine ourselves as god-like heroes hovering above the globe, ready to answer every distant cry for help. For millions around the world, the real face of the last remaining superpower are blindfolded men in hoods and handcuffs getting dragged past barbed-wire fences on the way to interrogation and torture. "I'm always around," Superman promises Lois Lane, but to anybody who has seen The Road to Guantanamo, it sounds like a threat.
On some level it's preferable that director Bryan Singer stays out of the material's way to the extent that he does, but after a distended two-and-a-half hours I was longing for the homo hauteur to let fly with his patented queer-release sledgehammer (in such ample use during the eye-candy X-Men pictures) and whack me hard upside the cremaster.
karasu said:Not exactly.
Matrix said:Who actually liked the camp from the Superman movies ?
Kabuki Waq said:since you think the the old superman movies hold up you must like camp to a fair degree.
and if superman returns is worse than superman 4 than....OUCH!
Matrix said:He's the only reviewer that feels that way,saying its worse than 3 and 4,but you all tend to believe his word because well its negative ! :lol
Kabuki Waq said:its not negative its fair and balanced![]()
Matrix said:Falling fast? 4 negative reviews? A ton of positive ones havent even been posted on the .
LM4sure said:Well, to be fair, it was at 100% a few days ago. It has fallen 21% in a short period of time. Generally, scores tend to go down on rt after the movie is released. I would expect a 65% score after all is said and done.