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NEWSWEEK and VARIETY love Superman
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Kabuki Waq
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"This a great movie for kids, real young kids. In fact, I'd go so far to say that, 11 year old kids will think this is possibly the best movie ever. "
"Bottom line, if you love the first two Superman movies and like the idea of a tribute to those movies with new actors, go see Superman Returns, you'll love it."
Exactly the type of shit i was worried about. The Donner Movies dont hold up at all anymore.
They should have watched some of the animated animated series and JLU episodes for inspiration instead.
"Bottom line, if you love the first two Superman movies and like the idea of a tribute to those movies with new actors, go see Superman Returns, you'll love it."
Exactly the type of shit i was worried about. The Donner Movies dont hold up at all anymore.
They should have watched some of the animated animated series and JLU episodes for inspiration instead.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Donners first Superman holds up fine today imo,well except for Otis.What the shit,you guys have no love for classics.
Also Spacey doesnt suck,wtf :\
Plus the reviewer said Donner screwed up,the movie was made in the 70's and had always been regarded as one of the best Superhero movies ever,if not the best,whats that have to do with holding up after all these years.
Donner didnt screw up Superman.
Also Spacey doesnt suck,wtf :\
Plus the reviewer said Donner screwed up,the movie was made in the 70's and had always been regarded as one of the best Superhero movies ever,if not the best,whats that have to do with holding up after all these years.
Donner didnt screw up Superman.
I take issue with his assertion that "Smallville gets it right" - there have been scores of episodes with far goofier plots than Superman Returns. I find it difficult to fathom preferring Gough/Millar's mythos to Donner's - hell, Smallville itself lifted elements from Donner's film.
Kabuki Waq
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Matrix said:
yea but it seems like this movie is made for the 70s as well + a Crazy wanna blow up the world lex.
The first 2 superman movies are downright cheesy now.
have you Seen The animated Superman stuff from the last 10 years or so? its ****ing awesome thats why this is so dissapointing(if the negative review holds true)
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Kabuki Waq said:
Of course Ive seen the animated stuff *I love it*,but we have all known since Singer took over the movie,it would be based around Donners story and themes.Like I said Id take this version any day of the week over what Burton was going to give us.
Yea some characters irk me *Otis* some of the shit at the end of Superman 2 is cheesy by todays standards,but Donner didnt film guys on roller skates going backwards or talking on the phone while being blown around by Zod super breath,that was all Lesters fault,he cheesed up Supes.
Every superhero movie has cheesy moments,thats a fact,but as a whole I dont find the first two Supes movies cheesy.
Go watch Superman 3/4 and compare it with the first two.
I dont see cheese when I look at the trailers to Superman Returns,sorry if you do.
master_shake_05
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Batman Begins?Matrix said:
Kabuki Waq
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I believe he is referring to the New York Scenes in Spiderman. UGH
Kabuki Waq
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you forgot (not exact quote)"I wont Kill YOU ...but I wont SAve YOu either" WTF YOUR BATMAN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAVE HIM... what a stupid out of character moment that was
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Spidey 1 and 2 has tons of cheesy moments,still great movies.
Batman Begins one line that just f-ing irks me " Nice coat" Still my fav superhero movie to date,after Superman the movie.
That same homeless guy just happens to be there when he first comes out as Batman,come onnnnn.
Batman Begins one line that just f-ing irks me " Nice coat" Still my fav superhero movie to date,after Superman the movie.
That same homeless guy just happens to be there when he first comes out as Batman,come onnnnn.
master_shake_05
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:lol :lol :lol Okay, you win...AniHawk said:
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Kabuki Waq said:I believe he is referring to the New York Scenes in Spiderman. UGH
Since I live in NYC,it makes it even harder to watch :lol
"YOU MESS WITH HIM YOU MESS WITH ALL OF US!"
throws tomatoes at Green Goblin.
master_shake_05
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"Yeah you green mother****er, New York! Repeat after me! NEW YORK!!!!! Yankees mother****er!"
:lol I hated that SO ****in' much :lol
:lol I hated that SO ****in' much :lol
http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/jor_el/jor_el_large.mov
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karasu
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Matrix said:
Being considered the best superhero movie ever isn't really a big deal(most superhero movies are terrible), and nostalgia plays a big part in a distinction like that. Donner's Superman is a cornball for cornball times, and even worse Donner gives him all sorts of wonky abilities and tries to make him more than a hero. Like I said, his Superman is so holy that he doesn't even punch people. He's so boring, so two dimensional. Clark is an act and Superman's motivations are some holy whatever the ****. I agree that Donner is a good director, but the characertization = meh.
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Begins has lots of lines that annoy me, all of them are repeats at that. The script is constantly answering itself. Thomas Wayne says something sentimental in the beginning(why do we fall?), Alfred repeats it later. Rachel says something sentimental(it's not who you are underneath), Bruce Wayne repeats it later. Ra's says something to Bruce(mind your surroundings), Bruce repeats it in the end. It does that like six times!
karasu said:
Some were okay. "Mind your surroundings was fine," and so was "Why do we fall?"
I'd replace those with "You still haven't given up on me?" and Cain's oddly delivered, "NEVAH!"
Anyway....
There were plans to re-release Superman: The Movie in theaters?! I never knew about this.
Matrix said:
You know, for having Dean Cain as your avatar, I can admit that I think I love you...OTISBURG??
I like how there are a ton of positive reviews, and yet there is one person that gives it a negative and a ton of people on this board think the movie is gonna suck because of that one review. Can't make much more sense than that!
"The best Hollywood movies always knew how to sneak a beguiling subtext into a crowd-pleasing story." -- Richard Corliss, TIME MAGAZINE
hmmm. what kind of subtext are we talking about here?
"Bravura technology and dazzling effects can't overcome the film's shortcomings: Standard plot, poorly conceived villain flatly played by Kevin Spacey, and similarly wooden performance from newcomer Brandon Routh (who lacks humor) in all of his roles." -- Emanuel Levy, EMANUELLEVY.COM
how is this a positive review?
hmmm. what kind of subtext are we talking about here?
"Bravura technology and dazzling effects can't overcome the film's shortcomings: Standard plot, poorly conceived villain flatly played by Kevin Spacey, and similarly wooden performance from newcomer Brandon Routh (who lacks humor) in all of his roles." -- Emanuel Levy, EMANUELLEVY.COM
how is this a positive review?
Ned Flanders
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Reviews aside, the stifling thing for me with this film is the fact that I don't think that the scale of the plot is fitting of a character of Superman's powers. Luthor has been explored..he's done the kryptonite thing, he's used his cunning to enlist the support of other superpowered beings..he's even scientifically constructed a pawn capable of battling Superman (admittedly in a film that isn't considered canon to Returns, but the point stands). What Superman needed in this film was a Darkseid..someone who embodied the ill will of Luthor but came with a power equally as formidable as Supes. The scope of the dilemma would have been more fitting of Superman's abilities and the action would have been more titanic. Luthor with another doomsday plot just seems pedestrian by now...wait..did I just say Doomsday? Hell even Doomsday would have made for a better foil this go-round than Luthor, again.
*sigh*
All IMHO of course.
*sigh*
All IMHO of course.
ManaByte
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Kevin Smith had Doomsday in his script.
But then again he had L-Ron the gay robot sidekick to Brainiac, killer polar bear guards at the Fortress of Solitude, and a GIANT ****ING SPIDER with Brainiac's brain in it that ran around sounding like a Down Syndrome kid yelling SUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
But then again he had L-Ron the gay robot sidekick to Brainiac, killer polar bear guards at the Fortress of Solitude, and a GIANT ****ING SPIDER with Brainiac's brain in it that ran around sounding like a Down Syndrome kid yelling SUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
Ned Flanders said:
After being missing for 5 years, you think Luthor wouldn't have something for Supes? Plus it's a re-introduction of the franchise, so it's key to nail down the basics.
Darkseid and Doomsday could easily be done in the sequel, and would work much better as sequel characters. If you throw in Darkseid, or Doomsday in Returns, what else could they throw at Supes in the next film that'll be more challenging? Not much.
evil solrac v3.0
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Snaku said:
superboy prime?
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