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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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sircaw

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So I'm seeing talk of the bandwidth of the next-gen consoles especially with the PS5 and it's 448 GB/s of memory bandwidth. RedGamingTech a while back leaked that the next generation RDNA 2 cards will not feature the HBM memory, which is AMD's answer to GDDR6X however the RDNA 2 cards themselves would not have bandwidth problems because they'll feature an "Infinity Cache", which is 128 MB of cache on the chip, which is a lot and that this will mitigate the problem of not featuring high bandwidth memory. He leaked the term "Infinity Cache" a few weeks ago as well and today's patent filed by AMD proved he was indeed correct so hats off to him.

As for the PS5 he did mention that the PS5 was NOT having memory bandwidth issues because of the "robust caching system" and this was some how was also linked to RDNA 3 however Paul didn't go into detail about it. However he did add that despite the PS5 not having bandwidth issues developers were not exactly saying "we have enough bandwidth", of course more is always better.

another super interesting nugget.
Your a star paul. :messenger_heart:
 
CAN YOU STOP BEING SO FUCKING TRIGGERED FFS "lollipop_disappointed:

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First tests with PS5 reveal the presence of a mysterious nut in the hardware of the console

 

sircaw

Banned
First tests with PS5 reveal the presence of a mysterious nut in the hardware of the console



SECRET SAUCE,
 

LiquidRex

Member
First tests with PS5 reveal the presence of a mysterious nut in the hardware of the console

Each PS5 contains a soul of those that were insubordinate to Mark Cerny at some point in his life, and that is the entry point.

Only a special key which Mark has in his possession will release the nut, and set the soul free.... So I've been told, could be bollocks though.
 
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sircaw

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Each PS5 contains a soul of those that were insubordinate to Mark Cerny at some point in his life, and that is the entry point.

Only a special key which Mark has in his possession will release the nut, and set the soul free.... So I've been told, could be bollocks though.

It could be like one of those glitter balls in night clubs that is suspended from the ceiling.

As you play your games, the air from the consoles blows it around with hundreds of sparkling blues revolving on your ceilings and walls. :messenger_grinning:
 
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First tests with PS5 reveal the presence of a mysterious nut in the hardware of the console


It's the turbo button.
 

scie

Member
First tests with PS5 reveal the presence of a mysterious nut in the hardware of the console


The turbo button is back!!!

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saintjules

Gold Member
Microsoft may make another big announcement related to Xbox Series X today


Hmm. I think if it were to happen, it would have been posted already. Usually their big announcements are posted online at 6AM PST / 9AM EST
 
I think Schrier is the bottom of the barrel but he has a point, like we said the other day the whole industry needs a good look at.

It's hard to know who to trust these days, from politics to gaming, there is deception everywhere.

Most these journo's are not gamers lmao. In the end all you can trust is the good games. They don't disappoint. Anyway its only until consoles release. Once the boxes are out everyone will forget these guys.

Surely your not posting in here after xmas??
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
When Sony is going to break the silence...?

I'm losing it right now...


this.

I am so fed up at this point. Sucker Punch just announced the online modes, and we still dont know how that game will play on PS5. Are we getting a patch? is it going to be using the boost mode for higher framerates?

come the fuck on already.
 

ethomaz

Banned
I just got back to my desk and my 1.5 years old boy did leak something that can be interesting next-gen related... I will not change the content of his writing to avoid my bias.

c mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmhj m mmmmmm ukh mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmo,

Take that with a grain of salt until I get Mod approval.
 
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travisktl

Member
Most these journo's are not gamers lmao. In the end all you can trust is the good games. They don't disappoint. Anyway its only until consoles release. Once the boxes are out everyone will forget these guys.

Surely your not posting in here after xmas??
Exactly. 5 more weeks until both consoles are out, give a bit of time for the initial honeymoon period of them to die off, then we're finally done with the leaks and speculation. We can all just go back to worrying about what new games are coming out.
 

Bryank75

Banned
I think Schrier is the bottom of the barrel but he has a point, like we said the other day the whole industry needs a good look at.

It's hard to know who to trust these days, from politics to gaming, there is deception everywhere.
Between people receiving racing chairs and free Xbox's and endless other stuff.... including cameos in games. I was wondering why I was hearing about GamePass on almost every youtubers channel at about the same time.

These things need to be stated or they should face some type of repercussion. It's basically paid advertising.... a quid pro quo.
 

thelastword

Banned
It’s strange they haven’t shown the UI yet, I wonder what they have up their sleeves that they don’t want MS to know.
Well, way back in June it was said that Sony still has many things to reveal about PS5.....The way this industry is going, you announce something too early, then the competition has time to react and say we have it too at launch. So it's always a great idea to bask in the fruits of your own vision for a while and own it...People have to know that you came up with the idea and it was not out of reaction to anything....Just following your vision...

I think some hardware details and some nifty OS features are being kept secret......It makes sense, you need all the advantage you can get....I really appreciate Sony and AMD's approach this gen, leaks are few and far between, Sony and AMD are keeping things very close to their chest. Look at how much we knew about Navi and Ryzen before they launched, now for RDNA2, things are a bit hazy, the competition can't really anticipate what they have packing.....Look at the RDNA 2 situation, NV has cards ready because they know AMD will come with more Vram than what they are offering on the 3080, but they really don't know AMD's rasterization performance, they don't know RDNA2's raytracing performance.....Like anything else, the media, the loudest mouths will under-estimate AMD 's performance because AMD always disappoints right? and boom, AMD comes in and catches them unawares....

Look at the PS5, it was the console all the media and tech guys were lowballing, 8TF and all that jazz, all because of MS's heavy coffers. Phil will never relinquish power to Sony again, so whilst Phil was only thinking more CU's, Cerny was thinking of making the fastest console ever and revolutionizing all aspects of the pipeline, he was thinking of a way to play with better controller feedback and the highest immersion through a novel sound chip. They were thinking about putting the most customizations in to minimize bottlenecks and to maximize performance. So when the media went on about 8TF and RDNA 1 and no hardware RT, no VRS, Cerny was working, he probably never saw all of that, he was just doing what he does best. Build a state of the art console with the most customizations he could think of from that genius mind of his and also incorporate the latest and up to date tech he could put into the device for futureproofing......

Whilst others were worried about TF, Cerny was worried about how much more performance could 1TF give you, if you improved the pipeline and placed in more customized hardware......That's what we are dealing with, so whilst some people only see the consoles as what's being debated on twitter or forums or who is spreading FUD and fake hype, Cerny has been busy doing work and constructing his magnum opus.....There is literally no aspect of the PS5 that is not revolutionary and a massive step up or in redesign over PS4......

Literally everything he has said has been true....

Quickest to triangle
Gamechanging SSD
Revolutionary Sound
Haptic Feedback Controller
Revolutionary cooling and power distribution system

So when the media and certain demographics were saying, no hardware RT, no 4K, 1800p at best, 30fps UE4 demo, 5700 or 2060S performance for PS5 at best....Cerny never saw that.....He was too busy doing the fine touches. He was more interested in architecting the final touches on the hardware than to boast about anything PS5 on twitter or in interviews. As a developer himself, he was talking to devs, asking what do you guys need, how can we make this better, he was finetuning his own customized hardware....He was helping devs realize raytracing in games. So what do we have now? Talk vs Delivery.....Cerny never boasted about the best visuals, but his console has it, he never boasted about Raytracing, but his console is the only one showing it, he never boasted 4k, but he has 4k native with RT on many games.

So at this point, I think it makes little sense for talk anymore, just show.......Closer to launch, it makes sense to leave some surprises, people are already locked in for the top tier visuals they've seen on PS5. In essence, everything people lowballed PS5 on they have over-delivered; Power, visuals, 4k, raytracing, framerate, noise. cooling.....Next gen looking games, they have that in the bag....The last straw is BC and some are coming hard about BC, which has no impact on next gen, but Sony is going to deliver on that too, rest assured....
 

sircaw

Banned
Between people receiving racing chairs and free Xbox's and endless other stuff.... including cameos in games. I was wondering why I was hearing about GamePass on almost every youtubers channel at about the same time.

These things need to be stated or they should face some type of repercussion. It's basically paid advertising.... a quid pro quo.

And we probably don't even know the half of it, its a fucking racket, its dishonest and everyone knows it.
 
So I'm seeing talk of the bandwidth of the next-gen consoles especially with the PS5 and it's 448 GB/s of memory bandwidth. RedGamingTech a while back leaked that the next generation RDNA 2 cards will not feature the HBM memory, which is AMD's answer to GDDR6X however the RDNA 2 cards themselves would not have bandwidth problems because they'll feature an "Infinity Cache", which is 128 MB of cache on the chip, which is a lot and that this will mitigate the problem of not featuring high bandwidth memory. He leaked the term "Infinity Cache" a few weeks ago as well and today's patent filed by AMD proved he was indeed correct so hats off to him.

As for the PS5 he did mention that the PS5 was NOT having memory bandwidth issues because of the "robust caching system" and this was some how was also linked to RDNA 3 however Paul didn't go into detail about it. However he did add that despite the PS5 not having bandwidth issues developers were not exactly saying "we have enough bandwidth", of course more is always better.
It also explains why rumored specs of the RNDA2 cards feature such high clockspeeds, like the mid-range RDNA2 card boosting up to 2.5Ghz. Mark Cerny said that increasing the clockspeed of the GPU will also increase the cache bandwidth. So to have a very high cache bandwidth on top of having 128MB of cache, it may mitigate the low bandwidth of 256-bit GGDR6.
 

sircaw

Banned
Some uncut Godfall gameplay.



yep was posted earlier, really like the look if it.

Really need to have a more in-depth look at the loot system, as i said i think this game has really grown on me, it looks good to me.

4 or 5 distinct worlds>?
half a dozen different types of weapons,
instant death loading screens for old farts like me, right back in your face shit hard bosses, and again and again.

Just show me so more of the rpg elements to the game please.
 

K.N.W.

Member
Each PS5 contains a soul of those that were insubordinate to Mark Cerny at some point in his life, and that is the entry point.
When I was 10 years old I used to build imaginary consoles with lego. One of those had a human soul in the cpu, to have better graphics. If you factor in that Sony's Playstation is what made so strange, then yes, you are right, it was Mark Cerny's plan all along.

Everybody buy a PS5, NOW! ( Except we can't :( )
 

Entroyp

Member
Between people receiving racing chairs and free Xbox's and endless other stuff.... including cameos in games. I was wondering why I was hearing about GamePass on almost every youtubers channel at about the same time.

These things need to be stated or they should face some type of repercussion. It's basically paid advertising.... a quid pro quo.

I mean, MS was called out for bribing the media/influencers during the early xbone days. Old habits die hard.

What I find so funny, because it’s so stupid, is the negativity towards Sony for not doing the same.

Where is ma free stuff.. where the UI...
 
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Well, way back in June it was said that Sony still has many things to reveal about PS5.....The way this industry is going, you announce something too early, then the competition has time to react and say we have it too at launch. So it's always a great idea to bask in the fruits of your own vision for a while and own it...People have to know that you came up with the idea and it was not out of reaction to anything....Just following your vision...

I think some hardware details and some nifty OS features are being kept secret......It makes sense, you need all the advantage you can get....I really appreciate Sony and AMD's approach this gen, leaks are few and far between, Sony and AMD are keeping things very close to their chest. Look at how much we knew about Navi and Ryzen before they launched, now for RDNA2, things are a bit hazy, the competition can't really anticipate what they have packing.....Look at the RDNA 2 situation, NV has cards ready because they know AMD will come with more Vram than what they are offering on the 3080, but they really don't know AMD's rasterization performance, they don't know RDNA2's raytracing performance.....Like anything else, the media, the loudest mouths will under-estimate AMD 's performance because AMD always disappoints right? and boom, AMD comes in and catches them unawares....

Look at the PS5, it was the console all the media and tech guys were lowballing, 8TF and all that jazz, all because of MS's heavy coffers. Phil will never relinquish power to Sony again, so whilst Phil was only thinking more CU's, Cerny was thinking of making the fastest console ever and revolutionizing all aspects of the pipeline, he was thinking of a way to play with better controller feedback and the highest immersion through a novel sound chip. They were thinking about putting the most customizations in to minimize bottlenecks and to maximize performance. So when the media went on about 8TF and RDNA 1 and no hardware RT, no VRS, Cerny was working, he probably never saw all of that, he was just doing what he does best. Build a state of the art console with the most customizations he could think of from that genius mind of his and also incorporate the latest and up to date tech he could put into the device for futureproofing......

Whilst others were worried about TF, Cerny was worried about how much more performance could 1TF give you, if you improved the pipeline and placed in more customized hardware......That's what we are dealing with, so whilst some people only see the consoles as what's being debated on twitter or forums or who is spreading FUD and fake hype, Cerny has been busy doing work and constructing his magnum opus.....There is literally no aspect of the PS5 that is not revolutionary and a massive step up or in redesign over PS4......

Literally everything he has said has been true....

Quickest to triangle
Gamechanging SSD
Revolutionary Sound
Haptic Feedback Controller
Revolutionary cooling and power distribution system

So when the media and certain demographics were saying, no hardware RT, no 4K, 1800p at best, 30fps UE4 demo, 5700 or 2060S performance for PS5 at best....Cerny never saw that.....He was too busy doing the fine touches. He was more interested in architecting the final touches on the hardware than to boast about anything PS5 on twitter or in interviews. As a developer himself, he was talking to devs, asking what do you guys need, how can we make this better, he was finetuning his own customized hardware....He was helping devs realize raytracing in games. So what do we have now? Talk vs Delivery.....Cerny never boasted about the best visuals, but his console has it, he never boasted about Raytracing, but his console is the only one showing it, he never boasted 4k, but he has 4k native with RT on many games.

So at this point, I think it makes little sense for talk anymore, just show.......Closer to launch, it makes sense to leave some surprises, people are already locked in for the top tier visuals they've seen on PS5. In essence, everything people lowballed PS5 on they have over-delivered; Power, visuals, 4k, raytracing, framerate, noise. cooling.....Next gen looking games, they have that in the bag....The last straw is BC and some are coming hard about BC, which has no impact on next gen, but Sony is going to deliver on that too, rest assured....

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Some uncut Godfall gameplay.



Yeah, I'm starting to like the look of this. I mean, come on, it's a completely brand new game; new IP. We should be giving this the time it deserves.

I too would like to see some of the meta elements (outside of the hack n' slash gameplay) but, providing they look strong, I'm tempted to give this a try...
 
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Deleted member 775630

Unconfirmed Member
Here, SATA3 SSD on PS4:







It's about how far you are from the server and how fast is your connection as well. Bad example indeed.

Unless I'm mistaken (I quickly went through them), none of those videos load from main menu do they? This is moving on the map, so a lot of assets are already loaded.
 

THE:MILKMAN

Member
I mean, MS was called out for bribing the media/influencers during the early xbone days. Old habits die hard.

What I find so funny, because it’s so stupid, is the negativity towards Sony for not doing the same.

Where is ma free stuff.. where the UI...

While I agree that effectively bribing naïve "YouTube influencers" is pretty low when Microsoft's whole marketing line for Series X/S has been about transparency and honesty, at the same time Sony have done a complete about turn on engaging in any capacity with the media outside of Geoff Keighley (if you can count him) thus far in the last couple of years.

I'd love for Jason to do an exposé on this subject to see to what extremes the three big game companies go to in controlling their messaging and how they have changed the last few years.
Imagine being this stupid, but he's not, he is a liar doing FUD Management, according to his XboxEra Discord, that has our beloved mascot Doncabesa.

Hey, Bo. Is there going to be any big revelations coming involving DF/Alex in the near future?
 
Exactly. 5 more weeks until both consoles are out, give a bit of time for the initial honeymoon period of them to die off, then we're finally done with the leaks and speculation. We can all just go back to worrying about what new games are coming out.

When you buy playstation worrying about games aint a thing :messenger_tears_of_joy: Sony gave us a 2 year road map of games.
It hasn't hit people yet. Too many too far gone ino console warring. Reality will hit eventually.

I should be gone by then.

Exactly. Once the boxes are out. Shout out to all the people that will be console warring & arguing fud & all this other promises & goofy marketing shit. Once the boxes are out. Its over.
 
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Deleted member 775630

Unconfirmed Member
This guy is an idiot who post so much garbage typically with zero factual basis or prior knowledge to what the hell he's actually tweeting about.

He's gonna be huge on twitter.
It's a video. Who posted it doesn't matter unless you think they altered it?
 
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