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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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I know that. But that was a very controlled demo, very straight forward, no AI, hardly any physics, etc.

So yes, the PS5 can do that, I have no doubt about that. Only it can do that in a real game. I just want to know - and see!

Is it so reprehensible to ask yourself this question and to want to understand what all the effort is for?
If it was reprehensible I wouldn't have responded to it :messenger_winking:

It's of course a demo only, which speaks more in it's favor because there were not 100's of people and 100M investment to build a full game taking advantage of the hardware.

This demo won't look anywhere near as impressive in 3 to 5 years time, anymore than this other one does right now:



Did it help make you a believer? :messenger_grinning:
 

oldergamer

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Dumbest thing I've seen on here yet. LOL

Good luck trying to ascertain the exact fabrication process of a chip by comparing pictures in different lighting conditions. Unless they are trying to base things on shape, which has everything to do with the chosen layout and not the fab process. 🤷‍♂️
Totally agree!
 

Lysandros

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:messenger_neutral:

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PS5 has a heart..
 

chilichote

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As someone that works in advertising, TV buying is so outdated in compared to proper digital advertising. Also those kind of panels are typically tried to be representative of the whole country, not sure about this poll.

For a representative survey, you would of course have to carefully select the target group; I was less concerned with whether these 72% are meaningful or not, but simply about the fact that 500 people can be quite sufficient to read trends from it. Perhaps I phrased it a little unhappily, but I depend on the Google translator.
 

MastaKiiLA

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But is it worthy?
Jury is still out on that one.
I will only feed the highest quality stuff to my great great PS5.
WD has made some excellent SSDs. Second only to Samsung IMO. Very competitive on price too. I would've gotten a WD drive instead, but I wanted the best available, and the 970 edged the Blue/Black (can't remember which one).
 
Good Morning everyone this will be my first post, but if you checked the comments of tidux’s tweet. You’ll see two people discussing one person teasing some ps5 news, even though it may amount to nothing.

if you proceed to his twitter and check the comments of his pinned post, you’ll see a screenshot of his Instagram that depicts what the two individuals were speaking about.

 

Garani

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"Conducted from September 23 to 25 this year among 511 US-based candidates, the survey found that 15% of people managed to grab a preorder for a next-generation console. Of these individuals, 72% of them plumped for the PS5 disc edition, 30% went for the Xbox Series X, 10% jumped on the PS5 Digital-Only Edition, while 8% selected the Xbox Series S."

120% of people, eh?

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If someone bought more than one console, then YES the 120% is correct. But as someone else said, the sample is way too small.


LOL!!!!!!

Actually no, it is not. It's not by a TV AND the shape is similar but not the same of a PS5.
 

saintjules

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Good Morning everyone this will be my first post, but if you checked the comments of tidux’s tweet. You’ll see two people discussing one person teasing some ps5 news, even though it may amount to nothing.

if you proceed to his twitter and check the comments of his pinned post, you’ll see a screenshot of his Instagram that depicts what the two individuals were speaking about.




Yup






 
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T-Cake

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I got roasted by pointing out that the air intake its not exactly ideal. This pic actually looks even worse with many air holes being blocked.

But again, there are diodes in the APU measuring temps all the time. If there was insufficient air flow/cooling, it would shut down within minutes.
 
But again, there are diodes in the APU measuring temps all the time. If there was insufficient air flow/cooling, it would shut down within minutes.

This, plus if you are going for a negative pressure design you can't have more intake that exhaust. You might even want a bit less just to ensure the draw (I don't know).

I've never worked with a case working a negative pressure design, the PCs I've built have all been in positive pressure.
 

PSX

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I got roasted by pointing out that the air intake its not exactly ideal. This pic actually looks even worse with many air holes being blocked.

yup, if you have the idea of building PCs you probably know what i am talking about, from my experience this will be a problem in 6 months - 1 year of use, not to mention people have different room temperature it will results differently it depends on your room temperature. also the dust will make it even worse, I was looking forward to get it later on, but this turn me off, I will have to wait for a year or 2 before jump on Xbox SX hopefully by the time they will release another one with better design, otherwise I will just stick with PC instead getting series X.
 
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Axonometri

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There are slots in the bay that face the fan. I believe there will be airflow, even if it's only incidental. SSDs don't necessarily need lots of airflow. I have a 970 that sits in my laptop, without any more airflow than the rest of the PCB. It doesn't need a heatsink. The only thing with a direct fan is the CPU. It runs anywhere from 36-50C, depending on load. Gen2 cards that meet PS5 requirements should be more thermally-efficient, that I don't think there should be too much concern.
I disagree. They get hot. They need airflow. Some need heat sinks and airflow.
 

azertydu91

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This, plus if you are going for a negative pressure design you can't have more intake that exhaust. You might even want a bit less just to ensure the draw (I don't know).

I've never worked with a case working a negative pressure design, the PCs I've built have all been in positive pressure.
That's factualy wrong, more intake than exhaust allow for the airflow to speed up in the process cooling way better thanks to the venturi effect.
 
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That's factualy wrong, more intake than exhaust allow for the airflow to speed up in the process cooling way better thanks to the venturi effect.

Not in a negative pressure design, from what I've seen. If you are moving more air in than out, that's a positive pressure design. But I've never tried it myself, so have no idea.

That's why those single fan OEM systems with the huge side vents have such poor ventilation, because the fan just pulls air from right behind it and you get a lot of standing air that stagnates in the case.
 
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ThisIsMyDog

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Who the fuck are they? Mark Cerny? Click baiting at its finest. Those might be good for storage, but not running the games as they are intended to be.

"The WD_BLACK™ SN850 NVMe™ SSD reaches irrational 7000MB/s read speed and 5300MB/s write speed2"

So... fast enough?

And I don't think that apart from exclusive games from Sony studios, productions will use the maximum speed of these discs.
Maybe cheaper SSD as a second one for games where 7GB/s disk will only change the level loading speed is not such a stupid option.
 
Look at this shit, where the air will come from when games are super intense at full speed of the fan? It’s slapped together design from inside.
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Apple talking about the trash can Mac Pro.

“Being able to put larger single GPUs required a different system architecture and more thermal capacity than that system was designed to accommodate,” the exec is reported as saying. “So it became fairly difficult to adjust.”


The xbox sardine squeezed box. Will face the same fate. Don't know what xbox were going for with this next gen rollout ,but it all seems rushed,cheap. Seems their next gen plan was really about xcloud,gamepass. Maybe fanboys change their mind & they made hardware. And they have been trying to do it mid range to cheap product quality product.

They are shook of Amazon & Google. So they most likely invested heavy in cloud gaming.Hardware seems an after thought.
 

azertydu91

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Not in a negative pressure design, from what I've seen. If you are moving more air in than out, that's a positive pressure design. But I've never tried it myself, so have no idea.

That's why those single fan OEM systems with the huge side vents have such poor ventilation, because the fan just pulls air from right behind it and you get a lot of standing air that stagnates in the case.
Oh, I missed the negative pressure in your post disregard then.
 
Look at this shit, where the air will come from when games are super intense at full speed of the fan? It’s slapped together design from inside.
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Air will flow through any opening to offset the negative pressure created by the fan on top.
My PC case has less intake area than the Series X
 
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The xbox sardine squeezed box. Will face the same fate. Don't know what xbox were going for with this next gen rollout ,but it all seems rushed,cheap. Seems their next gen plan was really about xcloud,gamepass. Maybe fanboys change their mind & they made hardware. And they have been trying to do it mid range to cheap product quality product.

They are shook of Amazon & Google. So they most likely invested heavy in cloud gaming.Hardware seems an after thought.
Lol. Rushed and cheap "pie_tears_joy: It's only more powerful and smaller than the PS5. But they didn't think it through apparently...
 
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Garani

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Yeah I was just joking .... still maybe photo realism gives way to impressionist art realism in HFW ...
I mean, that thing is SO thin. And I get it if it doesn't have hanging cables (it could be hanging on a drywall and all cables run behind it), but the frame is really really thin, like a painting's frame.
 
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