I agree and I think that was my point overall. I don't think they "got taken" by these developer studios. I think they fully knew what they were doing and had a strategy for it. Now, we can argue that this means their business acumen was not on point, or even just say they were 'dumb' to do it. But I just don't think they were clueless and walked into getting taken to the cleaners without realizing what was going on.
Totally. There is absolutely ZERO reason at this point to think that the addition of additional storage would cause heating issues for the PS5. ZERO. All of it is purely mad and wishful speculation at this point. The 'best' backup for any of these arguments that I keep seeing is the claim that the current Samsung drive WOULD WORK in the PS5 and that this is somehow evidence that Sony is holding off on allowing this functionality because they are "scared" of the system overheating. Others try to pretend that changing the fan speed of the PS5 via a firmware update is some big, complicated process so they have to take a lot of time to prep the update and thus allow for storage expansion. I guarantee that adjusting the average fan speed or the fan profiles in the firmware is one of the EASIEST things for Sony to do. Allowing for custom sound profiles for the 3D audio or updating how the cards function works, or adding a quick resume or speed switching feature...THOSE things would take some work and time.
I think its fud. I’m running a owc m.2 enclosure on my pc that’s smaller than the size of the ps5 space with no big fan sitting next to it. I’m having no problems. Also think of all the laptops running the same type of ssd with less space than ps5. It’s all fud.Can someone help me understand this article.
How can the M.2 drive cause the console to overheat?
I would understand the M.2 drive overheating but not the console.
Plus the M.2 drive has adequate cooling as it's position right next to the fan.
PlayStation 5 Teardown
Hasn't Bloomberg been put on the spot already by Sony when talking about PS5 chip yield.
"the people said" issa first for me, what ever happened to "my sources said"
Twitter and YouTube going to be full with PS5 overheating tweets and vids again.
I mean, I started by saying the PS5 itself is not overheating. That their work for the expansion slot is how hot SSD's themselves run when you're pushing such high speeds. The system has been proven to run just fine, now they have to make sure they can get an above 7gbps SSD to keep that speed. I'm sure they'll figure it out.
I agree! Is this another example of 'persecution complex' that some Xbox gamers are accused of? I don't think anyone credible has claimed the PS5 will be overheating because of the NVME. There is an interesting question about how the bay being enclosed could keep the 'drive' from performing at its peak performance not that the entire system was going to overheat. There is also the update to the fan curve that might cause the system to make more 'noise' but again that does not mean the system itself will overheat.
What FUD? If it was already solved they'd have the solution available now. It's just talking about the realistic issues you run into with computer components. They obviously need speeds that aren't yet available and may possibly need to ramp up fan speeds to help keep those sustained speeds. Nothing crazy, and nothing to do with how the system runs outside of that expansion slot.
No, I'm not. I'm saying expansion isn't available because they don't have SSD's yet that can run at the speeds they need. Part of that is how hot SSD's run and how that throttles their performance and how incredibly expensive SSD's that run anywhere near that fast currently are. This is a simple fact about SSD"s. If you need 7gbps or greater constant speed then it's going to generate a metric fuckton of heat and for now be very expensive. If this summer date rumor ends up being right then obviously they have plans to solve it by then.
What? I have already said I don't think the system's cooling will be negatively affected. The main reason there is no expandable storage is due to the insane speeds they need. Insane speeds = a ton of heat, thus this article about why the fan curve may be raised up to compensate with that to help the SSD itself stay cool. Obviously they put a big assed fan in there for a reason. No one is stating anything negative about the console itself. Just explaining WHY there is nothing verified for the expansion slot as of yet, yeesh.
Can someone help me understand this article.
How can the M.2 drive cause the console to overheat?
I would understand the M.2 drive overheating but not the console.
Plus the M.2 drive has adequate cooling as it's position right next to the fan.
PlayStation 5 Teardown
Hasn't Bloomberg been put on the spot already by Sony when talking about PS5 chip yield.
"the people said" issa first for me, what ever happened to "my sources said"
Twitter and YouTube going to be full with PS5 overheating tweets and vids again.
Good for you.
It’s a good thing Doncabesa and DarkMage619 are here to give each other repeated thumbs up. I’m glad you have found each other. All thanks to their appreciation of all things PlayStation.
“The cooling will not be negatively affected” + “the drives would generate tons of heat” + “Sony has a plan to solve it that is taking them a long time to develop” =
The issues, I believe (or it's even with my own experience) is that PCIe 4 drives with fast speed can ridiculously hot if they are not properly cooled. Those 7GB/s drives are in totally different ballpark than you standard 2GB/s option, which can run without heatsink pretty easily, even tho they still reach 70C if they don't have proper airflow.
The issues, I believe (or it's even with my own experience) is that PCIe 4 drives with fast speed can ridiculously hot if they are not properly cooled. Those 7GB/s drives are in totally different ballpark than you standard 2GB/s option, which can run without heatsink pretty easily, even tho they still reach 70C if they don't have proper airflow.
I have this drive:
Which probably does not fit PS5 due to heatsink, but even then it needs to fan close, because otherwise it's starts to report to system that it runs too hot.
This is not fault of Sony. As you can see here with PS5 certified drive (well according to WD) they are still rather toasty while doing something and since PS5 have this "extension of RAM feature" they are probably going to work whole time you are play the game. Here is some test: https://www.legitreviews.com/wd_black-sn850-2tb-pcie-gen4-nvme-ssd-review_223577/11
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you read that quick. I'd barely posted before seeing your like response.
I thought it's 15W or maybe that's my drive (was one of the first available), anyway hopefully in PS5 there is enough room for heatsink, I don't have PS5 so i don't know how much clearance is there.
That on the pic, Corsair Force Series MP600 2TB
Very well, in that case, I am not sure, why I had such an issues with overheating, I was dealing with that back in I believe...umm...probably around summer last year and on some forum they were info that it's 15W peak and that I have to add a fan, which I did. I probably going to replace this drive anyway, I would warn people to not use first generation of such drives. I has fat early adopter tax all over it.
They are working on Yuffie DLC (Integrade) and FF7R Part 2 so I guess they need to incorporate Sony SSD solutions anyway into FF7 engine-solutions so back-porting should not be a problem. Also it's as I said in FF7R thread - Intergrade is a testground for them - which assets can be carried over, how much work they need to do and learn in-and-outs of new gen. Yufffie DLC will most likely used Midgard assets too so they can incorporate some of the upgrades into base FF7R.
Doesn’t quick resume on x have issues with not working on all games and taking games out of your queue randomly? I haven’t heard much about it since it was going to revolutionize gaming on and before November 10th
Look at all them RRoD PCs and laptops.
I have been trying to find this for the past few days, lol.
Man, I tell ya! Xbox fanatics and supposed “PC gamers” have it all figured out that the engineers at Sony missed. All of a sudden their PCs and laptops melt and RRoD when last week they were perfectly optimal and cool as a cucumber.
And shit, it wasn’t too long ago last year when they were sharing that silly video about someone running M2 drives in a quad array to try and match the PS5 with absolutely “zero issues,” now one drive is an issue.
Go play some games, people.
Same with the DRM and the "anti-consumer" talk. Feelings have definitely been hurt. Subsequent rhethoric gets sung as gospel while wishing for a "righteous roles reversal".Look at all them RRoD PCs and laptops.
Two generations later and some peeps still can't let that go. Must've stung hard.
Notice they say "anticipated in 2021" instead of "available in 2021" like with Ratchet. Delay is very likely.
We don't know what really happened and it could very well be BS, but giving up on a Kojima exclusive sounds like a whole new level of Google incompetence.https://www.pushsquare.com/news/202...a_exclusive_hideo_kojima_horror_sources_claim apologies if this has already been shared.
Power efficient yes. Doesn't guarantee anything about absolute performance. What he said is obvious.
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