what they have shown so far looks nice, but not eyeball melting.
Definitely looks better than Ratchet on PS4.
But im not seeing a generational leap. Maybe if they had changed the art style to something more realistic. Looks busier and there is more destruction, but overall im not blown away by the graphics.
It's some kind of real time GI. Their customed GI also improved compared to last generation.
I meant it is something like Demon's Souls GI.
I'm quite sure they will have GDC, deep dive like spider man ps4.
It'd make a lot of sense for it to be encoded in the effect itself instead of doing the expensive computation each time.
Do you have any evidence of that? There are multiple games with those kind of effects being encoded as is without any RT involved.
Without seeing more of them on different scenarios, I'd say they are not doing any raymarching through the cloud volume. It's really expensive and wouldn't bring anything to the table for an effect that lasts a couple of seconds.
Everything i said was speculation of course. Anything is possible until dev confirms it.
Notice that the whole environment geometry is lit up whenever the explosion occurs, like a light source, can houdini simulation do that ? I don't know.
The explosion is generated in Houdini, but it's rendered to an animated texture atlas, so it isn't emiting light, the light is added afterwards when composing the asset. It's notorious the improvement in sprite quality.Notice that the whole environment geometry is lit up whenever the explosion occurs, like a light source, can houdini simulation do that ? I don't know.
Real time, not ray traced.
It's still the same. There are multiple ways to do that without involving any kind of GIReal time, not ray traced.
Next gen only?
I mean anything like Ratchet or Demon Souls level of graphics - I don’t feel it has a true graphical showcase as of yet
While Starfield could be this gen's TESIV: Oblivion in terms of "next gen", I really doubt that Halo Infinite delivers on "next gen". It's a cross-gen game; the delay might help it not look like a bad Xbone game that's been up-scaled, but it can't make it look like a next-gen only one. I suspect Bethesda will be delivering that "next gen" moment long before XGS does.
And possibly flight sim if that does come out this year
Halo is an xbox one game.
devblogs.microsoft.com
Your forgetting that RGT is a PC centric channel and Paul himself is primarily a PC gamer.
The great thing about when a new Xbox console launches is that it brings a ton of innovations with it which also come to the PC gaming space, most notably DX12 Ultimate and it's software feature set. So it makes sense for him to be excited about it and do extensive videos on the subject.
I know personally a number of my friends who are PC gamers who are excited for for things like DirectStorage. Which I think is a cool and useful feature, as it brings large optimisations in the way the PC hardware handle things like I/O requests, data streaming and loading, it also reconfigures the data streaming pipeline for PC's to allow for more efficiency since PC's don't have dedicated I/O hardware and usually rely on the CPU and GPU for data decompression. Things like these will become critical especially because of the massive increase in data (thanks to the visual fidelity) the next-generation games will bring and the significantly growing adoption of SSD's amongst PC gamers especially now that the consoles support them.
Here's a great read on the subject, I recommend Playstation gamers (like myself) also give this a read as it is very insightful into how the SSD's will impact next-generation gaming moving forward.
DirectStorage is coming to PC - DirectX Developer Blog
Earlier this year, Microsoft showed the world how the Xbox Series X, with its portfolio of technology innovations, will introduce a new era of no-compromise gameplay. Alongside the actual console announcements, we unveiled the Xbox Velocity Architecture, a key part of how the Xbox Series X will...
I elaborated more on this PC vs console I/O topic in another thread. Read it if you're interested or ignore it.
When we talk about PS5 I/O, we aren't talking about the SSD or the speed (5.5 GB/s) of the SSD. That's not a problem for PC. On the hardware side, PC currently lacks the dedicated decompression unit that consoles (PS5/XSX | S) have. On the software side, its existing file I/O protocols are ancient. DirectStorage is being pushed to overcome this at least on the software side of things.
Decompression with Gen4 SSD speeds can take up to 24 cores with a conventional CPU (Threadripper) according to NVIDIA, 11 to 13 Zen 2 cores according to Sony and MS, respectively. With just 8 cores inside consoles, you can see they can't just rely on the main CPU for decompression of the game files. This is why console manufacturers built a custom decompression block into the I/O unit of the main SoC that offloads those tasks from the main CPU so the CPU can focus on what it's meant to do like processing of the game physics, instructions, preparing draw calls, etc. without having to worry about decompression overhead that much.
And this is where it's a problem for PC. DirectStorage kinda solves the problem on a software level, not on a hardware level. Gaming PCs with 6C/12T CPU like Ryzen 3600 or 5600X, heck even 8 cores are quickly going to get saturated when the decompression with Gen4 SSD is taking place leaving nothing for the games. They just aren't gonna cut it when games demand data to be decompressed and loaded from the NVMe to VRAM as soon as possible.
To solve this hardware problem NVIDIA is proposing a solution called "RTX I/O" where instead of using the CPU cores, with DirectStorage the game will use the GPU's CUDA cores or the SMs for decompressing the data. This is still going to impact gaming perf, IMO, and NVIDIA won't directly tell you or talk about this, at least not now. Because we'll likely see a dedicated decompression unit similar to consoles in the next-gen PC GPUs that will offload this task from the SMs. I mean this is not some wild concept. Remember this chart?
They'll have something like this up for the I/O decompression talk when selling their next-gen GPUs to you and show you how having a dedicated decompression, I/O cores in the GPU speeds up gaming perf instead of relying on the SM or the CPU.
This means gamers with Turing and Ampere GPUs are likely screwed if/when that happens just like GTX users are screwed without RT and AI cores. Think about this, even the console manufacturers could have gone the same route as NVIDIA and used their GPUs for decompression work, but they didn't. They felt the need to add a dedicated block so that it didn't impact gaming perf.
Now, do you understand what we mean when we talk about PS5/XSX I/O unit? Even XSX and XSS have some form of hardware decompression unit in the SoC.
Funnily enough, in the Microsoft Stack talk, Andrew Yeung (DirectStorage Engineer) alluded to future discrete GPU's incorporating dedicated hardware for I/O and that there will be an "exciting evolution to DirectStorage".
Is it in this vid?
Is it in this vid?
I knew it. Wish they'd incorporated this already in the Ampere or RDNA 2 line of GPUs.
I would be surprised if it wasn’t crossgen, hasn’t it been in development for quite a while?
I think it would depend on the performance cost and the amount of data being decompressed. Although it's very likely they'll incorporate dedicated hardware.
Yup. Flight Sim even got a PEGI rating for Xbox One.
The general consensus is on Hellblade 2. We'll see.
Primitive shaders are fully programmable and are driver compiled,they execute a compute shader thread group with access to group shared memory.Triangle culling is done by the shaders on the compute unit,completely bypassing the fixed function primitive unit,this is not only much faster than fixed function but happends much earlier.
